Fall Out, and Secure For Sea; The 2012 Sino-Russian Naval Exercises

Uncle Volodya says, "A good navy is not a provocation to war. It is the surest guaranty of peace"

Full fathom five thy father lies;
Of his bones are coral made;
Those are pearls that were his eyes:
Nothing of him that doth fade
But doth suffer a sea-change
Into something rich and strange…

Alfred Thayer Mahan, author of “The Influence of Sea Power Upon History“, was the most celebrated and preeminent naval strategist of his day. According to the “U.S. History” site, he was one of the leading spokesmen for the age of imperialism, arguing not only that leaders who wanted to get anywhere concentrated on harsh political realities while the philanthropic side of overseas involvement was for milksops and Mama’s boys, but that modern navies need shore facilities in every region from which to project regional power. These facilities, he argued, would never be completely safe while they were in the hands of another country.

Those lessons were taken to heart not only by the United States of America, but by every maritime nation that aspired to be a world power; or to prevent someone who did from seizing, in the pursuit of empire, territory that was theirs but which they were too weak to defend. Consequently, regions that do not wish to be subjugated by the United States Navy Mahan championed so aggressively have sought to limit its influence in regions they consider their own, and to prevent its gaining a foothold from which to deploy and resupply.

The Soviet Navy peaked between 1985 and 1990, when it had 6 aircraft carriers, 30 cruisers, 32 frigates and about 70 each of Ballistic-Missile submarines and Guided Missile submarines. Since then it has shrunk to a shadow of its former power, and the vessels that remain are in need of refits and modernization while new construction is needed to keep pace with the shifting balance of power and the imperative for freedom of the seas for one’s own fleet while developing and maintaining the ability to deny it to others without leave.

Therefore, nations that once deliberately exaggerated the strength of the Soviet Navy in order to justify rapid military buildups – with lucrative sweetheart deals for the military/industrial sector – have fallen to snickering about the Russian navy of today, referring to it as “decrepit” and “barely seaworthy”. Such was the prevalent tone in discussions of the recently concluded and first-ever Russian/Chinese joint naval exercises.

A word of caution before everyone breaks out the pointy paper hats and champagne – China doesn’t see the exercises that way at all. China regards them as an opportunity to learn from a modern navy: “… a chance to interact with a more advanced force as China tries to improve its defence capabilities”. China, if anyone needs to be reminded, is regarded by the United States Director of National Intelligence as America’s greatest military threat, owns the western world’s manufacturing base and holds billions upon billions in western debt. Suggesting China has been able to position itself to admirable advantage as a result of western self-stroking complacency would be an understatement. And Russia has something the Chinese navy wants: the tactics, fleet maneuvering, antisubmarine warfare and coordinated area defense experience for projection of true blue-water seapower Russia acquired in the cold war. At the time, China’s navy was more a liability than an asset. I saw a good part of it in Quingdao in the late 80′s, and the submarine fleet was especially frightening. For the people who had to serve in it, not oppose it.

Look at China’s navy now. An aircraft carrier, later this year. Although its introduction is unlikely to mark a radical departure in strategic planning, retired U.S. Navy Captain Carl Schuster suggests it will “elevate the People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) into the ranks of the world’s great naval powers”. It will also move the drop-dead line for seaborne forces wishing to launch cruise missile strikes against the Chinese mainland some 200-300 miles to seaward.  The Luhu Class destroyers, in service in the mid-90′s, are capable ships that make use of up-to-date foreign technology such as French radars and weapon-control systems. Yes, the French are not too careful who they sell to. Oh, and powered by LM-2500 gas turbine engines, from General Electric, United States of America. She carries the C-803 missile: the air-launched variant, the YJ-83, demonstrated twice the range U.S. intelligence agencies had initially estimated in its initial test-firing. The Luyang I and Luyang II class are newer yet, and have the Chinese navy’s first real fleet air defense capability.

Although these exercises do not by any means indicate the emergence of a coherent military alliance or a common regional defense policy, let’s indulge in a moment of what-if, to see how that might alter the global balance of power, never mind in the region. Courtesy of the BBC, here’s roughly the way the world’s dominant military powers shake out. Personally, I thought it was kind of rude to leave out Germany, the Netherlands and France, who all have capable and highly professional small navies, but let’s stick with this list for the moment and confine ourselves to submarines, aircraft and ICBM’s only (since the list does not include surface ships).

The UK can be counted on to go along with pretty much anything the USA wants to do, and the USA never met a war the UK didn’t like, so we’ll include them together as partners. And we’ll add Russia in with China. Let’s run the numbers.

Oooooo…A Russia/China alliance would outnumber the USA/UK alliance by 45 submarines, 127 to 82. The USA/UK alliance has 364 more fighters/ground attack aircraft than a Russia/China alliance would have. The USA/UK alliance has a slight edge also in ICBM’s, 450 to 358. Those are all landbased, though: keep in mind the 45-submarine deficit. The USA/UK alliance has many more surface ships; however, the USA alone is spending $739 Billion a year to keep up its military, while Russia and China combined are spending about $143 Billion (although the chart is probably correct that the Chinese government’s defense spending is higher than it reports). Russia has the third-largest cash reserves in the world, and China is the largest holder of U.S. government debt at $1.18 Trillion. The USA has a $1.3 Trillion federal deficit: the UK has a deficit of 3,396 Million GBP, and recently imposed the most severe austerity budget since the Second World War. Money to spend on a military buildup affects the balance of power as well. Which hypothetical alliance has it?

The cost-for-capability gap is further illustrated in China’s acquisition plan for Littoral Combat ships versus the American plan. The Chinese went for a corvette-sized missile boat which retired United States Navy Commander John Patch described as “a thoroughbred ship killer”. The United States went for a small, cheap, mass-produced hull as well. In a decade the Chinese built eighty-three 400-ton trimarans at a cost of about $40 Million each. In the same time period the U.S. Navy built two  2,700 – 3,000 ton ships (two different designs), at a cost of more than $600 Million apiece. Some analysts laughed off the difference, suggesting small missile boats operating in the  littoral zone are easy meat for submarines and helicopters. Those are probably the same analysts who laughed off the joint China/Russia exercises as a comedy bringing together a great power wanna-be and a great power has-been. The Russian navy was and is very capable in anti-submarine warfare, and submarines are already uncomfortable operating in the littoral zone, which is typically shallow – sometimes shallow enough that a submarine can be seen from the air. Those who think helicopters will butcher the missile boats are forgetting fighter air cover from enemy aircraft carriers, and how far  they will have to stand offshore owing to the enemy’s missile envelope – 200 to 300 miles is a long flight for an armed-up helicopter unless it is planned to be a one-way. The most-quoted critic of littoral missile boats, Bob Work, bases his assessments on the shooting-fish-in-a-barrel experience of the U.S. Navy against Iranian and Iraqi Fast Attack Craft (FAC) in 1988 and 1991. Those boats were Boghammars and Kamans. The Boghammar is a twin-drive open boat that looks quite a bit like what you might use for bass fishing, with a machine gun in it. The Kaman and Kaman II boats were an export version of the French La Combattante boat, with MM-38 Exocet and Harpoon missiles respectively. Although the Harpoon is good for 70 miles, the radar carried (Thomson CSF G-Band) could see only 18 miles on a good day, and there were no surface-to-air missiles. Pride goeth before a fall, Bob. The Houbei (Type 022) class sports an X-band dedicated air-search radar that can see three times as far, and surface-to-air missiles. And it’s twice the size of a Kaman.

But where are my manners? I largely left out the Russians. Aside from having a pile of money and an avowed intention to bring back its navy from death’s door, Russia purchased the Mistral Class assault carrier from the French last year, and intends building 3 more. To hear The Moscow Times’ Pavel Felgenhauer squeal about it, you’d think Moscow had taken the U.S. navy hostage and was sending its ears home to its mother by registered mail, raving on about airspace defense missile brigades and the U.S. leapfrogging the Kuriles to invade the Sea of Okhotsk. Russia already had a fairly good sealift capability with 20 landing ships, although most are quite old and only the Ropucha II’s could really be called modern. But there’s no denying the Mistrals will bring an added dimension with helicopters to fly air cover in support of landings and offer rapid logistic resupply to consolidate a beachhead. They will also carry a sizable troop component. The Jamestown Foundation isn’t laughing about Russia’s ambitions to restore and upgrade its navy, and reckons Russia is serious about regional power projection. And that’s just Russia on its own.

Also, the who-would-win projections are usually made on the assumption that it’s total war, only firepower matters and devil take the hindmost. In reality, it’s almost never like that any more. In an atmosphere of less than total war, is it possible for asymmetric action using unconventional and unexpected tactics to blunt even an overwhelming advantage by a force that almost never changes its patterns? Why, yes, it is. Remember the Royal Navy’s humiliation at the hands of the relatively weak Iranian Revolutionary Guard when the latter captured 15 sailors from HMS Cornwall during a boarding event? In this instance, the navy had become complacent owing to operation after operation with nothing going wrong, and Cornwall was too far away to support the boarding party when they came up alongside the vessel they intended to board, and there was a small Iranian naval vessel on the opposite side. We’ve talked before about the massive exercise Millenium Challenge 2002, two years in the planning, in which the Commander of the Red Force – retired Marine General Paul Van Riper – “sank” some 13 ships including an assault carrier and a large support vessel in less than half an hour. Western navies have been accustomed to knowing what the enemy will do almost before he knows himself, owing to an ability to listen in on his communications with sophisticated intercept equipment. General Van Riper used preplans and couriers to pass his orders, and had a single massive attack launched on a common signal. If real, the exercise enemy (widely thought to have represented Iran) would have won a decisive sea battle and done tremendous damage to the western image of seaborne invincibility. I’m sure everyone remembers the tension created in the Straits of Hormuz when 3 naval vessels were approached by small Iranian vessels, and a coincidental radio transmission – probably from a local prankster who calls himself “Filipino Monkey” – threatened the warships. Not to mention the immediate effect on oil prices, which leaped 49 cents a barrel.

One more time. China is assessed, by the individual whose job it is, to be the greatest military threat to the United States. China rates the Russian navy as more advanced and professional than the Chinese navy. More advanced than the forces of the country that is America’s greatest military threat, in case the point escaped anyone. Both China and Russia have plenty of money with which to build up their military forces, and Russia has announced an intention to do just that. Russia is assessed as the USA’s second-greatest military threat. Although the DNI was talking about the nuclear forces of those countries and not their naval forces, I find it hard to believe the two biggest threats as nation-states are carrying out joint naval exercises and the USA’s response is yawn, wake me up when something exciting happens. Especially when one of those countries holds enough U.S. debt to tip the economy over, and the other is a major energy producer. Both countries have recently united to oppose NATO regime-change initiatives in the United Nations. Although exercises in the past have focused on joint anti-terrorism measures, the joint naval operations focused on air defense and anti-submarine warfare at the multinational fleet level, similar to the RIMPAC exercise hosted by the USN.

Mind you, the DNI also said he thought Colonel Gaddafi would prevail against the rebels. So maybe he’s just the village idiot dressed up as the DNI.

I’m not sure what Alfred Thayer Mahan would have said about the notion that the country he had marked out for dominion of the seas had decided to laugh at a building naval threat and ignore it until it got big enough to take seriously. So let’s seek wisdom from another great American naval strategist; Hyman G. Rickover, former four-star Admiral and, at 63 years of service, the longest-serving naval officer in U.S. history.

“You have to learn from the mistakes of others. You won’t live long enough to make them all yourself.”

Note: all information in this post was drawn from unclassified sources.

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300 Responses to Fall Out, and Secure For Sea; The 2012 Sino-Russian Naval Exercises

  1. This says:

    We have seen how America could easily have Bribed Seep Blatter and the FIFA Executive Committee with Money and a Harem to try to Steal the Serbian Land of Kosovo.

    There can be no friendly games by Albanian Muslims with the Normal and Decent Non Albanians.

    The FIFA decision to allow for friendly games to take place came despite the fact that Kosovo is not a member of the United Nations; a requirement for full membership in the International Federation of Association Football or FIFA, and the following News Item shows the Secret Agenda.

    Serbian investigative reporter, Marko Lopusina, tells me that Washington strategists are in advanced stages of planning to form a unified large Albanian state in the Balkans and anoint it with the most modern navy so that it will control the Adriatic sea. Sources tell Lopusina that the large Albania is to be comprised of captured Kosovo and, eventually Macedonia which could be completely absorbed by the Albanian criminal entrepreneurs. Once formed, Albania will be armed and its navy strengthened so that it could control the Ionian sea. That, sources say, is so that Montenegro and Croatia could be cut off and made dependent on Germany, while Greece would be surrounded by the Turkish military from all sides, including to the north, in the Albanian held territories of Kosovo and Macedonia. Tells Lopusina: New Year’s headline that got the attention of the Serbs were media reports that Americans are leaving Kosovo by the end of 2012 as part of the general austerity measures in the U.S. armed forces. The report came from the Albanian NLA agency, quoting sources from the high U.S. administration and confirmed by the Albanian lobbyist in Washington, Joe DioGuardi, and the Congressional House Armed Services Committee Chairman Howard P. “Buck” McKeon. NLA also said that Washington plans to hand over Bondsteel to the Turkish military, termed by the NLA as “loyal allies” of the independent Kosovo. US military denied the pull out and the hand over but noted that the US military will not remain in Kosovo forever but will, one day, pull out. The grand idea here is to carve up Balkans so that Russian influence is contained inside rump Serbia which will be kept under tension of violence, threats and ultimatums so that the US presence in the Balkans could be justified. Once Albania and Turkey establish land and sea domination, sources tell Lopusina, then Serbia will be made member of NATO and the EU so that Russia will be, once and for all, kicked off the Balkans. But what will be done with the massive military site at Bondsteel? Lopusina says that sources tell him that Kosovo Albanians and the Turks are lobbying Washington to hand over Bondsteel, and in return, the Turks will help US to overthrow Syria’s Assad.

    I use the term Modern Day Nazi, or Neo Nazi to refer to all those Europeans who Oppress and want to Eradicate their fellow Europeans, and they would include several Countries in varying degrees in Europe, especially Germany.

    America and Modern Day Nazis have the same objectives as the World War 2 German Nazis and Hitler’s European Puppet Allies had, and technology has improved since then.

    Hitler implemented the Final Solution against the European Jews, using the latest Technology of those days in order to Oppress and Eradicate their fellow Europeans.

    The final solution for Europe will be for those Countries who will not submit to Modern Day Nazi Domination of Continental Europe, or if it is a Historic enemy like the Serbs who are the new Jews.

    These Neo Nazis with and Utter Contempt for Humanitarianism and Democracy could put cancer causing chemicals, contraceptives, and radioactive materials in food and drink products.

    The Non Albanian People need to be vigilant to make sure that the batches of supplies that are destined for their shops are randomly and properly tested.

    The same random distribution to different Countries should also be done randomly after the packaging process, but the random distribution should be done only after the packaging process has been completed.

    The Price of Liberty is eternal vigilance, and that has proved to be true up till now, and it will prove true in the future.

    This testing can be done at the Universities, or Private Companies who deal with Chemical Testing, and it should be tested for radioactivity.

    Kyrgyzstan had dangerous radioactive coal enter its Country, and every Household in Europe should have their own Geiger Counter, because even imported clothing should be tested for radioactivity.

    These food and drink products should be randomly tested for radioactivity, and for contraceptives, and for cancer causing chemicals; and there must be no corruption with the methods of testing, which should be done randomly with different groups chosen by lottery on each different day to do the testing.

    Many Non Albanian People of the Balkans think that they should change their Constitutions to gain Substantial Autonomy as part of the Russian Federation, if this is Voted for at a Referendum.

    “Whoever is filled with hate disguises it with his speech, but inside he holds on to deceit. When he talks charmingly, do not trust him because of the seven disgusting things in his heart. His hatred is deceitfully hidden, but his wickedness will be revealed to the community. Whoever digs a pit will fall into it. Whoever rolls a stone will have it roll back on him. A lying tongue hates its victims, and a flattering mouth cause’s ruin” (Proverbs 26: 24-28).

    To make a long story short, it is that the Albanians are Evil, they are Racist, and they are the troublemakers, and just like their American and German Masters, the Overwhelming Majority of them are Rubbish.

    If the Albanians want to play friendly matches, then they need to Confess to All These Things As True.

    There could be a Majority of Non Albanian People of the Balkans who see that the solution is to come under the Russian nuclear umbrella, before it is too late.

    We all know that if Russia gives an Albanian City one month to evacuate because that City is to be destroyed with a nuclear weapon, then America or the rest of NATO will do nothing.

    This will mean that the Albanians retreat back to Albania from surrounding Countries, and Albanians as a People eventually end up Destroying each other.

    It is time for that that Nazi Cow Merkel, to tell the People the truth of their Nazism, and the Nazism of Britain, America, and France.

    The Website http://members.tripod.com/~sarant_2/ksm.html, has the sentence: “Background material about Kosovo, especially the material disseminated by mainstream channels, is deficient in many aspects, but perhaps the most startling feature of many such articles is the singular way of examining the history of the region”, and I provided it is case you had difficulty finding one of many Websites with Old Article on Kosovo.

    The time has come for the European Union to ask America as a friend to leave Continental Europe completely and permanently.

    Other Countries should leave FIFA if that Filth posing as Friends to other Races is allowed to play football, except as a Province of Serbia, and Only If The Serbian Army Is Allowed By A United Nations Security Council Resolution To Go To Any Part Of Its Province OF Kosovo.

    It would be Good and Long Overdue for the United Nations General Assembly to have a Motion on FIFA, and on other matters to do with Serbia’s Province of Kosovo.

  2. This says:

    The Website B 92, which is owned by Americans does not want to publish this comment, and I suspect that it could be correct analysis, and I would like it recorded.

    There could be People who may be wondering if there could be a Fresh Election for the Parliament, and I cannot answer that question, except to say that it is a possibility, even though it would seem unlikely at this time.

    We know that the Serbian Parliamentary Election that occurred on 21 January 2007 came close to being a Repeat Election, because of the complexities of the Election Results.

    We need to remember that the last Parliamentary Election was mired in controversy with allegations of Widespread Election Fraud, and so there would be Voters who would like a Repeat Election, as long as this one can be honest.

    We know that the Constitution gives the Political Parties up to 13 weeks to form a Government, or else there must be a Fresh Election.

    I use to think that 6 weeks was enough, but I now realize that such an arrangement can be abused, and is not sufficient time.

    The evidence for this is with the last Election, where the Parliamentary Election was held 2 weeks before the second round of Presidential Voting, and with the inauguration of the Elected President, this will add an extra week, making it three weeks.

    While the Political Parties can have informal talks among themselves, it is only Proper that the Formal Talks to form a Government are held with the new President presiding over the Talks.

    This is because these Talks should take place decently and in order, and by arrangement and that would necessarily mean waiting until after the New President has been inaugurated.

    There could be People who think that there could be one or more Political Parties that actually wants a Fresh Election, because they can improve their Parliamentary Position within those 13 weeks, rather than waiting 4 years, and who knows what their Vote will be then.

    It could be that if they wait years for another Election, they might lose all their Parliamentary Seats, and we see that this is what happened with the Serbian Radical Party, while I am conscious of the 20 known bags of Ballot Papers, and who knows the real widespread scale of Votes that were Stolen, and that have been swept under the carpet.

    The Political Parties that are of the Caretaker Government have the advantage here, depending on how they handle that Caretaker Government, and if there is a Fresh Election, then All Political Parties will get the blame for that equally, and so there is no disadvantage to any Political Party to have a Fresh Election.

    It cannot escape our attention that the SNS has said that they want a two Party System in Serbia, and it could be that the DS wants the same, but they will not confess, because they cannot upset their Coalition Partners until Serbia becomes a Two Political Party System like much of the West.

    It would not surprize me if the European Union also wants a Two Party Political System in Serbia, because Puppertship is much easier that way, if their preferred Political Party has a Parliamentary Majority, and does not need to form complex and possibly unstable Coalitions.

    The longer the Caretaker Government stays in Power, then the greater the likelihood that the European Union or NATO could give the DS something on which to go to a Fresh Election, and where the European Union would hope that the DS wins a majority on its own, and does not need any Coalition Partner to complicate matters as far as the European Union is concerned.

    It could be that a Fresh Election is the best way to handle the Election Fraud, because no one wants to investigate it, and to talk about it could alienate the DS and the SPS as potential Coalition Partners for the SNS, and so it will not be mentioned by the certain Political Parties.

    We can see that if the Constitution only allowed 6 weeks before a Fresh Election, then Political Parties would abuse it, but with the way it is, it gives them sufficient time to negotiate a Democratic Coalition Government.

    • marknesop says:

      There probably is nothing wrong in holding fresh elections provided, as you suggest, no political party is disadvantaged thereby. However, calls for fresh elections are usually loudest where an opposition party propped up by outside intervention has almost succeeded, and where a new election accompanied by a smear campaign against the winner might be enough to put the opposition over the top. That’s more or less the way it happened in the Orange Revolution, and it was a mess for Ukraine.

      If that’s not the situation here, and new elections might actually be perceived as legitimate, then it’s probably worth trying, but I can’t claim to have a lot of familiarity with the circumstances.

  3. This says:

    I think that B 92 did not want that comment that did not contain the first sentence published, and the cunningly disguised it.

    If we look at the News Articles for 24 May 2012, we can see that I published two comments there with the Moniker of Yet Another J S.

    One was with the News Item “Slovak foreign minister arrives in Belgrade”, where that comment had over 2,500 characters at 11:57 Belgrade time, because B 92 would even take lengthy comments, but they did not want to publish my comment that I published here.

    I repeatedly sent B 92 my comment, but after hours of trying and they only allow comments of 1,500 characters, because they think that I do not realize that if they do not want publish some of my comments, then I will not realize that the West wants it a secret, because of having a possible scheme, or wanting the option of a possible scheme.

    I was able to publish a shortened version of that comment at 15:45 Belgrade time, on the News Item “Talks on government after Nikolic’s inauguration”, but they probably took one sentence to see if it was published elsewhere on the internet, and if it was, then it makes sense to make a virtue out of necessity, in order to deceive me, and to make someone think that I am a liar if they should read the B 92 comments.

    America and Germany wants an Independent Kosovo, and they want a Serbian Government to their liking, but they have not found one sufficiently to their liking, even with the Election they rigged, and so the West may want a repeat Election, because they want Serbia to join NATO on top of recognizing Kosovo.

    The West is thinking the same way as they used to, and so those are familiar will know that the West wants the DS to be the Government, because they want to join NATO, and be the Puppet of the America and of Germany, that is Euphemistically called the European Union.

  4. This says:

    The Democratically Elected Honourable Deputy Prime Minister is right in saying that the Largest Coalition Partner should select their Leader as Prime Minister.

    We have undeniable Historical Proof of this, and we only have to look back to the Serbian Parliamentary Election of 21 January 2007, and see how there was almost a Repeat Election, because the smaller DSS insisted that their Leader Vojislav Kostunica be the Prime Minister.

    This proved to be an unstable Government, because the Prime Minister should be of the Largest Coalition Partner, and the natural consequence of this Undemocratic Principle was that there was another Election only 1 year later, and we saw that the DSS was not part of the Government that was negotiated after the 2008 Serbian Parliamentary Election.

    The Democratically Elected Honourable Deputy Prime Minister Ivica Dacic and the SPS, want to provide the Serbian People with stable Government for the next 4 years, and would like to avoid a Repeat Election if possible.

    In most Democracies, Voters do not like unnecessary early Elections, and President Boris Tadic paid the price for going to that unnecessary early Election.

    However, if there is proof that there was Election Fraud, then there could be a Repeat Election if the Serbian Electoral Commission or the Serbian Supreme Court determines that a Fresh Election be announced.

    We can see so far that the informal talks are delicate and complex, and they could go on for some time, and there is more than enough time before People should even speculate on the possibility of a Fresh Election.

  5. This says:

    We can see why America is the conducting global Jihad against Democracy, and why Germany is conducting European Jihad against Democracy, and America and Germany should be called the Taliban.

    We can see how the Muslims in the Balkans always use false accusations against those who are not Muslims, and we have seen this on a Grand Scale in the Balkans with the help of their Anti-Democratic Euro American Taliban Allies who are Anglo-America and the European Union.

    I class PACE, the OSCE, the EU, NATO, EULEX, the ICTY, and the ICJ, and most things that come from Euro America as the Taliban that is waging Global Jihad against Truth, Justice, and the Human Way of Decency.

  6. This says:

    The following are what I would do if I were in the situation described in this comment, and would act with wisdom, because I do not have a PhD which is sometimes worthless to a Person.

    The West did this to Vojislav Seselj PhD because they want to make, Serbian interests a target, and Serbia a target, by making Seselj a target by making him a Seljak or a Seseljak.

    The logical and patriotic thing for anyone in that situation is make themselves as small a target as possible especially when others are affected by a Person’s Self Centered Attitude, and especially when the scheme is fully reliant on the Leader being in Jail and on Trial on Trumped up charges.

    If Seselj would resign as Leader, or the SRS would replace him as Leader, then the scheme breaks down.

    I would never be Leader under those circumstances, but I would be Environment spokesman if my Party was in Opposition, and Environment Minister if my Party was in Government, and I would have written one very book on the Environment, Conservation, and Recycling.

    I would say that the Environment is suffering a Perversion of Justice and is imprisoned by those who are destroying the Planet, and all the other Environment Movements would advertise for my just cause, and the injustice committed by the American Left who need the Environmental Votes in an Election year.

    The definition of insanity is doing what Seselj and the SRS have been going, and hoping for a different result.

    This is what would do if I were in the position of Vojislav Seselj and the Serbian Radical Party, then the SRS would be foremost an Environmental Political Party, because everyone should care about the Environment, even those who are considered to be of the Right Wing (Genesis 1: 31).

    I would not allow My Global Political Party to be called the Right Wing, but only the Global Good, Correct, and Wise Wing, or GGCW Party, because I do not consider Policies to be Left Wing or Right Wing, but only good or bad, correct or incorrect, or foolish or wise.

    My book on the Environment would be in Many Languages, especially English, French, and German, and I would have a Movie or Video made like Al Gore did.

    I could write more, but I am sure that those with sufficient incentive could set up a Committee to devise a plan, and they must not listen to what their Enemies are saying, but to what Wisdom is Saying.

    I will exaggerate here, and if the British, American, French, or German Governments knew that if releasing someone innocent would ensure their reelection, then they would probably do that.

    Vojislav Seslj should know that those who put him in Jail; and on Trial on Trumped up Charges will Never be influenced by Truth, Legality, or Justice, but only by Political Considerations, and by their own Selfish Self Interests.

    The SRS should firstly give Vojislav the dignified opportunity to voluntarily resign as Leader of the SRS and to Announce his Environmental Credentials within the next month, because that is what they are looking for from all Jailed Members of the SRS to keep their Membership of the SRS.

    We know that the West have said that they will make life more Comfortable for Vojislav Seselj if he and the SRS do Full Puppetship to America and Germany while deceiving the Serbian People of their Loyalty to Serbia.

    Yes, American and German Governments are Filthy Dictators, and they know that Compared to them the People of their Puppet Countries are Disgustingly Inferior to them Intellectually, and they can be reduced to those who have no moral fiber, and unless a plan exists to kill all the British, French, American and German Politicians, then this Planet will die.

    Death for this Euro-American Rubbish is the only cure, because they will Never listen to what is Right or do what is Proper and Decent; Never in a Million Years.

    Vojislav Seselj is in Jail and on Trial with Trumped up Charges, and it is all Political, and it is nothing to do with Truth, Legality, or Justice.

    What this means is that Only Political Considerations of the American Left who need the Environmental Votes especially during an Election year can help him, and the rest of us.

  7. This says:

    The West did this to Vojislav Seselj PhD because they want to make, Serbian interests a target, and Serbia a target, by making Seselj a target by making him a Seljak (villager) or a Seseljak.

    The logical and patriotic thing for anyone in that situation is make themselves as small a target as possible especially when others are affected by a Person’s Self Centered Attitude, and especially when the scheme is fully reliant on a Leader being in Jail and on Trial on Trumped up charges, helped along with a Corrupt Western Media.

    If Seselj would resign as Leader, or the SRS would replace him as Leader, then the scheme breaks down.

    I would never be Leader under those circumstances, but I would be Environment spokesman if my Party was in Opposition, and Environment Minister if my Party was in Government, and I would have written one very book on the Environment, Conservation, and 100 % Recycling.

    I would say that the Environment is suffering a Perversion of Justice and is imprisoned by those who are destroying the Planet, and all the other Environment Movements in the World would advertise for Our just cause, and they would make people aware of Injustice committed by the American Left who need the Environmental Votes in an Election year.

    The definition of insanity is doing what Seselj and the SRS have been going, and hoping for a different result.

    The SRS should have gone on a Joint Ticket with Dveri, because if they did, then both would have Seats in Parliament.

  8. This says:

    There is talk of friendly games, but there cannot be anything friendly by the Albanians when they and the Americans are deliberately slandering another the innocent Serbian People in order to continue the genocide of all Non Albanians.

    Increasing numbers of People realize that the friendliness of Albanians consists of land theft, murder, lies, crime, slander, racism, genocide, blaming their victims, and Only a few Albanians are Ignorant of these Facts.

    The Decent Countries of the World must leave FIFA of Fiendish Individuals’ Football Association, and join HIFA or Honest International Football Association.

    This must be the subject of a United Nations General Assembly Motion, and the numbers of Countries joining HIFA will increase with time, and Europeans will learn about Albanians, and Economic Genocide for Albanians may be the consequence of this, because Actions have Consequences.

    We know that President George Bush ordered Britain and France to Vote with America and Russia and China to pass the United Nations Six Point Plan for Kosovo.

    The reason was not because Euro-America would respect it, but because Kosovo could be the way for the American Republicans to regain the Presidency.

    If the Republicans win the Presidency, then America’s Policy concerning Kosovo will not change, but the Democrats and the Republicans know that they both have used and will use hypocritical and dirty tricks to win Elections, both Congressional and Presidential.

  9. This says:

    I think that HIFA should be started, even if FIFA is doing everything properly according to their Constitution and Charter.

    This is in protest of the Illegal and Immoral War in Kosovo, that began in 1999, and that is continuing to this day.

    Even if a dozen Countries begin HIFA, then the numbers will increase, because dissatisfaction with Euro-America can only increase, and this will help accelerate the decline of the West.

    A Kingdom divided cannot stand, and FIFA and HIFA will be that division, always be a constant reminder to almost Every Citizen on this Planet, on what the issues are, and this is the Divide and Rule Method.

    American Citizen should send a copy of this to their Congressperson who represents them, and tell that Americans do not want to waste Money on Evil Causes.

    America is soon to implode because of the Global Financial Crisis, and savings where possible in the War budget must be made, and unless the Democrats announce that America is leaving Kosovo with accompanying evidence, then we will Vote Republication every way possible at the next Election.

    If we look at History, we really should acknowledge at least privately that Anglo-America is the most intelligent Empire that has ever existed, and that exists.

    What this means is if you want to be Successful, then Copy Successful People.

    Obviously, there will be some occasion where Anglo-America will deceive, but the History is so extensive so that a person can sift the wheat from the chaff, and know what methods, tactics, and strategies worked.

    This consideration needs to begin with the England a few hundred years ago, where Anglo-America began.

    I really think that an Environmentalist Ruler in Any Country will gain the support of enough Greenies, who know that the American Government is more Corrupt and Evil than anyone they are Criticizing or even Slandering because they Love to do Evil, because Anglo-America is the Evil Empire.

  10. This says:

    There are Serbian People who think that if Kosovo ever became Independent, or if there was ever a Greater Albania, then there could be a very smaller Russian Country in Southern Serbia under certain circumstances.

    That area of Southern Serbia should be sold to Russia for a fair price, and it would not be more than 100 square kilometres, and it could be in the corner of Bulgaria and FYROM.

    Obviously, Russia would have unimpeded access to their purchased land, by means of International Law, and a United Nations Security Council Resolution, etc.

    This way Serbia can have some Money, and Serbia needs to be Militarily Neutral, and if the Albanians want any United Nations Security Council Resolutions in their favour, then they will tell America to consent, or for America to leave the Balkans Completely and Permanently.

    We know that one day United Nations Security Council resolution 1244 will need to be replaced or improved to secure Negotiated Autonomy for the Albanians, and all the cluses for the small Russian Country to be part of that new Resolution, or the Albanians can stay in limbo.

    We know that if America says that United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244 does not exist, then America should leave the Balkans, and just leave things to Serbia’s Constitutional Arrangements, and then there does not have to be that small Russian Country in the Balkans.

    In the meanwhile, the United Nations Six Point Plan for Kosovo should be Fully Implemented, because it is the Law.

  11. This says:

    The reason for creating HIFA should Only be to highlight Proper and Reasonable Opposition to a Greater Albania.

    The Evil Scheme for Greater Albania became Publically known with 1878 League of Prizren Public Declaration by the Albanians.

    The Albanians have used Evil Dictators like the Ottoman Empire and Hitler’s Third Reich, and lately they are using the American led NATO.

    There should Only be one proper cause for HIFA, because it is important for the World to focus on the Balkans.

  12. This says:

    I think that HIFA should have its own Website, stating that it was created to bring Peace to the Balkans, and it is the Greater Albania Movement that is preventing this.

    As a Natural Consequence the HIFA Website will have much information on the History of the Greater Albania Project.

    The goal of HIFA is to provide Public Information that leads to the Rehabilitation the Majority Albanians who support the Greater Albania Project, in order to incorporate Albanians as Allies of the Balkans, and Allies of the Human Race.

    There should be a Charter or Constitution for HIFA and it should be an improvement of the FIFA Charter or Constitution, and HIFA should be to refer to the Honourable International Football Association.

    We know that the Albanians have committed injustices on all of the Neighbours, and they might all want to switch from FIFA to HIFA.

    It could be that Germany is concerned that some European Countries will join HIFA unless Germany helps them with their Debts.

    It will be against the HIFA Constitution to join for Commercial Reasons, and that would be obvious after known the Facts.

    Countries would join HIFA Only for Reasons having to do with Truth and Justice, and America and Germany will put Great Pressure on HIFA Countries not to do the Right Thing.

    The HIFA Website will also have information like FIFA, and the concerned Nations are using Football to help resolve an issue to make Albanians the Allies of the Human Race, and Albania will be encouraged to join HIFA, but only after they have given up on the Evil Greater Albania Project.

    After the Albanians join HIFA, then the World can all join HIFA, as it will be a superior Organization, and it will only deal with Football, and no longer with the Greater Albania Project, because the Albanians will have become Allies of the Human Race.

    We know that Kosovo is approximately 11,000 square kilometres, and to sell Russia 10 % of what they helped save, would give over 1,000 square kilometres of land.

    That could make several corner bits with 130 square kilometres as new Russian Countries just in Serbia.

    Those corners are Croatia and Republic of Srpska, Croatia and Hungary, Hungary and Romania, Romania and Bulgaria, Bulgaria and FYROM, Serbia and Albania, Serbia and Montenegro, and Montenegro and Republic of Srpska, and then there are other Balkan Countries.

  13. This says:

    I realized that I did write al the corner bits of Serbia correctly, and I should have said that I include Kosovo as part of Serbia, and I hope I list them correctly in the next sentence

    Those corners are Croatia and Republic of Srpska, Croatia and Hungary, Hungary and Romania, Romania and Bulgaria, Bulgaria and FYROM, FYRON and Albania, Albania and Montenegro, and Montenegro and Republic of Srpska, and then there are other Balkan Countries.

  14. This says:

    If HIFA is to be a success, the Russia has to be in it, and preferably start HIFA.

    The Countries that that should be in it Russia, Belarus, Serbia, and preferably one other Balkan Country.

    The Countries will have to pay each Football Player 1 Million Dollars a years, and this Money should be viewed as Defence Spending.

    It is better to wish for a lot and strive for a lot, and to receive even a small percentage of what was wished for and strived for, that to wish for nothing and to strive for nothing and receive 100 % of that.

    Russia is an Ally of the Human Race, and a Greater Albania is not an Ally of the Human Race, but the Albanians can be made to become the Allies of the other Neighbouring Balkan Countries, but only, and only because they fear, and they wish to Avoid Economic Genocide that HIFA could guarantee.

    Russia should finance a few Continental European Teams for 1 Million Dollars a year to play for HIFA in an Unofficial Capacity, in order to provide some bulk, and to provide publicity and news, and the Money spent here is a pittance and is Defence Spending, and it is in Russia’s Interest to have Albanians as the Allies of the Human Race, and we know that America can never be the Ally of the Human Race.

    I know that if the Americans were doing it, they would make a profit on it, and I think if it is done professionally a profit can be made on it, although, any Money to have all Continental European be the Allies of the Human Race would be Money that is wisely invested.

    People will buy a range of HIFA products, and for 1 Million Dollars a player per year, with the contract reviewed every year, would ensure some quality players who may be wanted by FIFA one day, because these players receive very good coaching, and they train a lot.

    These players are those who have talent, but there is only a few places on the National FIFA team, but they will take the 1 Million Dollars a year, and receive coaching and training, and publicity.

    The definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over, and hoping that you will get a different result, even in the Balkans, or much of Continental Europe.

    If Russia and Belarus were the only ones in HIFA then it would be effective, and it would be an Opportunity Duty, yes Opportunity Duty to reveal some Dirt on the European Union Elites to the Citizens of the European Union, rather than just let them continue to Maliciously Slander Russia and Belarus, and others.

    The following News Item shows the Secret Agenda of America with their Greater Albanian Project.

    Serbian investigative reporter, Marko Lopusina, tells me that Washington strategists are in advanced stages of planning to form a unified large Albanian state in the Balkans and anoint it with the most modern navy so that it will control the Adriatic sea. Sources tell Lopusina that the large Albania is to be comprised of captured Kosovo and, eventually Macedonia which could be completely absorbed by the Albanian criminal entrepreneurs. Once formed, Albania will be armed and its navy strengthened so that it could control the Ionian Sea. That, sources say, is so that Montenegro and Croatia could be cut off and made dependent on Germany, while Greece would be surrounded by the Turkish military from all sides, including to the north, in the Albanian held territories of Kosovo and Macedonia. Tells Lopusina: New Year’s headline that got the attention of the Serbs were media reports that Americans are leaving Kosovo by the end of 2012 as part of the general austerity measures in the U.S. armed forces. The report came from the Albanian NLA agency, quoting sources from the high U.S. administration and confirmed by the Albanian lobbyist in Washington, Joe DioGuardi, and the Congressional House Armed Services Committee Chairman Howard P. “Buck” McKeon. NLA also said that Washington plans to hand over Bondsteel to the Turkish military, termed by the NLA as “loyal allies” of the independent Kosovo. US military denied the pull out and the hand over but noted that the US military will not remain in Kosovo forever but will, one day, pull out. The grand idea here is to carve up Balkans so that Russian influence is contained inside rump Serbia which will be kept under tension of violence, threats and ultimatums so that the US presence in the Balkans could be justified. Once Albania and Turkey establish land and sea domination, sources tell Lopusina, then Serbia will be made member of NATO and the EU so that Russia will be, once and for all, kicked off the Balkans. But what will be done with the massive military site at Bondsteel? Lopusina says that sources tell him that Kosovo Albanians and the Turks are lobbying Washington to hand over Bondsteel, and in return, the Turks will help US to overthrow Syria’s Assad.

    The Slogan for the HIFA Website could be: The Price of Liberty is Eternal Vigilance, and that has proved to be True up till now for Continental Europe.

    The Price of Liberty is eternal vigilance, and that has proved to be true up till now for Continental Europe, and it will prove true in the future, and HIFA along with the HIFA Website with provide this vigilance for Continental Europe, and make the Albanians the Allies of the Human Race, which is the goal of all Decent People of Continental Europe to be Allies of the Human Race.

  15. This says:

    The Present Government Croatia falsely claim that they want good Relations with Serbia, but the Present Croatian Government should have said that they want good Relations with the Serbian People.

    We know that Croatian Leaders in the past have long wanted good Relations with the Land Territory of Krajina, and they found their way to do that.

    This was done by means of American approved genocide that is Celebrated as a National Day of Great Importance with a Public Holiday in Croatia on the 5 August of every year.

    I am certain that Croatia would like some more Serbian Land in order to have good Relations with Serbia as Represented by its Soil.

    However, if Croatians want to start to have good Relations with Serbians, then the first step is to withdraw support for the Illegal and Immoral unilateral declaration of independence by the leaders of the Albanians of Serbia’s Province of Kosovo, and another thing is for Croatia stop lying telling so Many Lies to Themselves and to Others.

    Another thing for the Present Government of Croatia to do is to remind America to scrap the Kumanovo Agreement, because there Could be Some People who might think that America and some NATO Countries are Fifth and Evil to restrict a Country Militarily even on its Territory that is undisputed even by the Rubbish that is America and NATO, and we know that Croatia is a Glad and Compliant Member of that Evil Organization called NATO.

    If this is not done soon, then the Present Government of Croatia should put forward a United Nations General Assembly Motion to this effect, to prove that it wants good Relations with Serbia.

    The Croatian President Ivo Josipovic will not attend the Inauguration of Presideny Tomislav Nikolic, because of President Tomislav Nikolic’s Patriotic Policies.

    According to Media Sources, Josipovic mentioned that President Tomislav Nikolic said that Vukovar is a Serbian town, and that there was no genocide in Srebrenica, and that this against European Values, or as Many People see it; it is against the Fourth Reich Values, or more precisely, their Lack of Values.

    We know that Hitler wanted to have good Relations with Greece, as long as Greece was his Puppet, but that Retard Mussolini attacked Greece without Hitler’s permission or knowledge, and the Greeks won against the Italians, but the Germans soon occupied Greece.

    Hitler was furious, because this delayed his plans to attack the Soviet Union, and we see that Hitler’s Good Neighborly Relations was only a Lie for an Ulterior Motive.

    The Croatian President said that Croatia has made significant progress in the past two to three years with the Puppet Tadic who dropped the Genocide case against Croatia and he knows that there is no Statute of Limitations on Genocide.

    Slovenia is a Member of the European Union, and Croatia will soon be, and that could not have happened to two nicer Countries, yet Slovenia disputes that the Gulf of Piran is Slovenian.

    As a Typical Hardened Hypocrite, the Croatian President uses Tactless words concerning Serbian Kosovo, the Serbian People, and Serbia, and Actions Speak Louder Than Words.

    I am more than convinced that the Croatian President would have invented some other Pathetic Excuses not to want good Relations with Serbia, because he uses the Stock Standard Pathetic Excuse that those who want to keep what is theirs are Nationalists.

    The truth of the matter is that those who only want what is theirs are just Normal and Patriotic, and not Puppets or Traitors to their People who were betrayed with some Election Lies, in order for the Traitors to enrich themselves at the expense of their own People, and guess why the Croatian President likes Tadic and Clique, rather than the Patriotic People.

  16. This says:

    The Kosovo Albanian Politicians must First Confess that they are Terrorists and Thieves, and they Must Confess this in an International News Conference that just the Albanian Politicians will attend and be Filmed for Global News, because there can be no Reconciliation without Truth.
    The Kosovo Albanian Politicians must renounce their Terrorisms, their Thefts, their Murders, their driving others from their Homes and Land, and from their Slanders against Serbia, and they Must Confess that they are Serbian Citizens of Albanian Ethnicity.

    As Serbian Citizens they will know to keep away from people who do not want your Company, and that is the Human Right of Every Human Being on this Earth.

    The Serb in the North have nothing to Negotiate, because they will not Compromise with the Law, or with their human rights, but it is up to others to show that they wish to join the Human Race.

    The Kosovo Albanian Politicians will Lobby Hard for the Kumanovo Agreement to be scrapped, and these are the first things that must be done by the Kosovo Albanian Authorities.

    The Kosovo Albanian Politicians will ask the Americans to leave Kosovo Completely and Permanently, but only if it is in Serbia’s Interest.

    After these things, the Kosovo Albanian Politicians will Fully accept the United Nations Six Point Plan for Kosovo, as it a reasonable and Sensible interim Compromise, and it will cover the Shame of America’s fake Humanitarian Mission in Kosovo, and its fake democratic Mission in Serbia.

    I wonder if the European Commission will deny that Lithuania is under orders by Germany to block the implementation of the SAA Agreement.

    Lithuania, as a Traditional German Ally, and as the last Country to withhold the implementation of the SAA Agreement promised to Implement the SAA Agreement sometime this Month.

    People are wondering if this will happen on 9 June 2012, as definite symbolism that Nazism has been Conquered once again in Europe, with the approval of all European Union Countries, but this Decision is Secretly Entirely up to Germany.

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