To Sin By Silence: The Juggernaut of Ukrainian State Murder Lurches Onward

Uncle Volodya says, "Right is right, even if everyone is against it, and wrong is wrong, even if everybody is for it. "

Uncle Volodya says, ““To sin by silence, when we should protest, makes cowards of men.”

To sin by silence, when we should protest, makes cowards of men. The human race has climbed on protest. Had no voice been raised against injustice, ignorance, and lust, the inquisition yet would serve the law, and guillotines decide our least disputes.

Ella Wheeler Wilcox, “Protest”

“In keeping silent about evil, in burying it so deep within us that no sign of it appears on the surface, we are implanting it, and it will rise up a thousand fold in the future. When we neither punish nor reproach evildoers, we are not simply protecting their trivial old age, we are thereby ripping the foundations of justice from beneath new generations.”

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago

Even Human Right Watch, despite its selective concern for human rights based on its political underpinnings, is beginning to get uncomfortable with the ongoing butchery in eastern Ukraine at the hands of “Poroshenko the Pragmatist”. I’ll say he’s pragmatic; he’s an exterminator. Ukraine under his rule is spiraling down, down to a hellish inferno where the basest appetites for cruelty are rewarded and no opposition is tolerated.

“A live interview with an HRW representative on Ukraine’s Hromadske TV came to an unexpected close when the host terminated the conversation after the guest refused to validate claims of Russia’s alleged “indisputable war crimes.” Hromadske TV journalist Danilo Janevsky abruptly cut off a live interview with Tatiana Lokshina, a representative of HRW after she refused to provide what she called a “political assessment” on the situation in eastern Ukraine. HRW is tasked with the objective reporting of human rights violations as set out by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. These impartial reports do not produce a political verdict; rather, they are used as the basis for drawing international attention to abuses. The interview, which began on a predetermined note to blame Moscow for the internal armed struggle in Ukraine, ended with the sudden, uncommon practice of cutting the guest off live on-air. It happened just as Lokshina was about to provide an impartial assessment of the abuses in the ongoing Ukrainian conflict. Janevsky asked his program’s guest:

How do you estimate rocket, heavy artillery and air attacks on the territory of the bordering sovereign state? Does it constitute a war crime, from your point of view? Yes or no?

Lokshina tried to explain that HRW does not comment on matters of political responsibility. Just as she began to say “If you want to hear what we have found,” the conversation was abruptly cut off by Janevsky. He said:

Thank you very much, our conversation is over.”

Many of the west Ukrainians, who fancy themselves descended from a nobler strain than their grunting, subhuman Russian-speaking eastern cousins, support Kiev’s brutal ethnic cleansing operations, and only became piqued when it appeared western Ukraine’s sons and brothers and fathers would be thrown into the meat-grinder at the front as the desperate battle for Donetsk enters its final chapters and the dictatorship throws everything it has into crushing this last bastion of its fellow citizens.

While North America and the European Union continue to smile paternally and ward off feeble attempts at criticism with the off-key Greek chorus, “President Poroshenko has a right to protect his country”, the state brings up short-range ballistic missiles. Useless against moving targets such as troops in the field, these are used against cities and towns to frighten defenders into capitulation with the sheer scale of indiscriminate carnage (thanks for the tip, Paul).

Most who have been watching the conflict in Ukraine slowly go pear-shaped and explode out of control were of the opinion that the “government” would never dare to use tanks against civilians. That opinion looks delightfully antiquated now and sort of comical – how little we all knew of the true depravity of this cancerous ruling body! Tanks are now as routine for the civilian populace in the east to deal with as shooing cows out of the cornfield, and not even particularly frightening compared with ground-attack aircraft indiscriminately shooting up towns and bombing residential areas, leaving innocent noncombatants lying legless and writhing in the street, some of them dead alongside their infants. And now, ballistic missiles. Could any one of us, in his or her wildest dreams, ever have imagined a situation in which a nation supported to the hilt by the Anglosphere could fire ballistic missiles at its own cities, without a murmur of complaint from its watching patrons? Jesus Christ; I remember the United States of America throwing a complete wobbler when Assad’s troops were supposedly shooting into crowds of protesters with heavy machine guns, and that didn’t even happen. There’s no doubt this is happening, and…crickets.

What is it going to take for Kiev’s western supporters to finally become sickened and withdraw their endorsement? In the name of God, what has happened to the western democracies?

What would the Founding Fathers – whom Sarah Palin can’t name but who have been the go-to symbolic arbitrators of justice for Americans since 1894 – have to say about the crushing of free will by the military power of the state? What do you say, Thomas Jefferson?

“Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add ‘within the limits of the law’ because law is often but the tyrant’s will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.”

Well said, Sir – how about you, Alexander Hamilton?

“The nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.”

I can’t argue with that, and I believe there is an emerging consensus on who is Ukraine’s master.  What’s your opinion on the subject, James Madison?

“If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.”

I’m glad you brought that up, Sir, because that is exactly the canard which is being aired, not only as justification for pounding the people of eastern Ukraine into acceptance of the yoke of imposed rule, but as substantiation for launching an economic war on the neighbouring country, which has long been in the west’s gunsights – Russia. The legitimately-elected government of Ukraine, the story goes, is engaged in an existential battle for self-determination of all Ukrainians against the terrorist forces of Russia, whose special forces and sophisticated weaponry seek to draw the country back into the embrace of the Soviet Union.

Let’s take a closer look at that. Is this an elected government? How? Its head of state, Poroshenko, won a landslide in an election in which nearly a third of the country did not vote, and not one individual in government has been elected since, although there have been plenty of appointments. The Rada remains essentially as it was after the coup government appointed itself, and still contains ministers who received their appointments as a reward for their activism at Maidan.

And don’t be misled by the hamfisted clumsiness of U.S. diplomatic efforts such as Ukrainian Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt’s ridiculous proffering of satellite maps alleging to prove Russian shelling of Ukrainian positions from inside the Russian border – there’s even a date on the map, and it’s 2010. That notwithstanding, the USA is watching the border like a hawk, and you couldn’t smuggle across a clip of bullets in a lunchbox without them noticing and shouting about it. All right, that’s an exaggeration, and I imagine a few light weapons are getting across, but certainly nothing so big as a vehicle, like a tank or APC, because they’re watching for just that and so far have had to rely on social media like Twitter and some loony SBU fabrications that purport to feature a rebel in east Ukraine conveniently reporting to his Russian controller that they have accidentally shot down an airliner. Yes, I really mean that; I’m not kidding. The nation that invented the internet, the personal computer and the spy satellite, the nation that spies on everyone else – even its allies – insists that video clips obtained from Twitter and unverified “phone intercepts” that are just fragments of conversations stitched together and which feature an unidentified “terrorist” are hard evidence of Russian culpability in the destruction of MH-17. Exactly as predicted, they are already starting to drift toward “we may never know”, which is as good as an admission that their useful tools in Kiev are the actual guilty parties, while Kiev’s seizing of the ATC records and refusal to release them is as good as an admission of guilt on their part – one hell of a lot better than something off of Twitter. Even Malaysia now says Kiev must accept responsibility; if not for having actually shot down the aircraft themselves, perhaps even deliberately in one of the most cold-blooded and grotesque false-flag operations in history, then at least for driving the aircraft out of the safety of the airlanes and directly over a war zone, as well as reducing its altitude.

What a disgrace. And on the political front, the Prime Minister – Arseniy Yatsenyuk, forever immortalized as “Yats” by that great nation-builder, Victoria Nuland – is getting out while the getting is good, probably knowing the country is doomed, while the political opposition is disbanded and coalition partners resign. If they could build a scaffold big enough to hold the entire Rada, they should all be pissing when they couldn’t whistle, and swinging by their necks. Ukraine has disgraced itself for a generation at least, and several notches below disgraceful has been the sickening hypocrisy and inhumanity of its backers. Take a bow, boys, because you’re on the hook for it every bit as much as your button-men are.

Your sins of silence now will rise up to confront you a thousandfold.

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1,260 Responses to To Sin By Silence: The Juggernaut of Ukrainian State Murder Lurches Onward

  1. yalensis says:

    Extry! Extry!
    Tetiana Chornovol hubby was killed in battle!

    This just happened recently, in battle for Ilovaisk (part of the Krasny Luch operation).
    Hubby (presumably wearing uniform and not embroidered peasant shirt, as shown in photo) was fighting in the special forces “Azov” battalion.

    Just for the record, hubby’s name is Nikolai Berezovoi, but Avakov communique referred to him as “Tetiana Chornovol’s spouse”. It was said he died a hero’s death, and will be awarded posthumously a medal.

    • cartman says:

      She’s now free to be with her roly poly Minister of Fitness.

    • marknesop says:

      I imagine the widow will be too busy rooting out corruption from the Yanukovych regime to spend much time in grieving. If she lives long enough, she might get around to working on the corruption of the present regime. Speaking of that, has Porko ever given up the presidency of Roshen candies? The site contains no information about their executives except for who is head of distribution for various countries and regions.

  2. yalensis says:

    And more details of Krasny Luch battle emerging, from both sides of the ledger:

    Ukropy say: One of the brigades spent the entire day trying to de-mine the bridge into Torez (under heavy artillery fire the whole time), while another was attempting to take the road between Krasny Luch and Anthracite.
    This involved West Ukrainian brigades from Novograd-Volhynia.
    Next thing you know, Rebels had captured a bunch of their armoured vehicles, but they (Ukropy) managed to get some of them back..

    Rebs say:
    Ukes were pushed back from Krasny Luch definitively. Plus, Rebs captured an entire tank from 30th brigade, complete with live crew, whom they took prisoner.

  3. patient observer says:

    The MSM “story” is beginning to breakup, crash and burn like it was hit by a lie-seeking anti-aircraft missile:
    http://rt.com/usa/179284-ron-paul-mh17-ukraine/
    Ron Paul Sr. is the closest thing the US has to an honest politician.

  4. ThatJ says:

    German Handelsblatt Releases Stunning Anti-West Op-Ed, Asks If “West Rabble-Rousers Are On The Payroll Of The KGB”
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-08/german-handelsblatt-releases-stunning-anti-west-op-ed-asks-if-west-rabble-rousers-ar

    This Is How Putin’s Advisor Sees The Ukraine Crisis Playing Out
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-08/how-putins-advisor-sees-ukraine-crisis-playing-out

    De-Dollarization Accelerates – China/Russia Complete Currency Swap Agreement
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-09/de-dollarization-accelerates-chinarussia-complete-currency-swap-agreement

    • yalensis says:

      From the first piece linked, this is my favorite comment, penned by somebody named “Lost My Shorts” :
      My favorite line:

      “The last successful major military action the US conducted was the Normandy landing.”

      Amazing to see signs that Germany is growing a pair. For the longest time, Euro-lefties bleated about US arrogance, but Europe as a whole always fell in line and for decades were key enablers of everything the US did. As the great poet Bryan Adams once said, “nothing can last forever.”

      The whole thing really is hard to figure. Here was my uneducated guess: Barry-O has been faxing it in for a long time, and foreign policy was not his passion to begin with. Everything is run by his political people, who pay a lot of attention to the chattering classes of NYDC, and are desperate not to have the Democrats called weak. They thought it politically expedient to give the Vicky Nuland and her neocon plumbers a free hand in Eastern Europe, because then the White House couldn’t be called weak. Perhaps Barry also didn’t mind to give Putin a bit of trouble to get even for Putin’s non-cooperation on Iran and Syria. The neocons told Barry that Putin was in a weak position — baroquely corrupt tyrant (despite the man-love he gets at ZH), bad for his people, not strong enough at home to fight abroad. Barry was too busy with his tee-shot on the 14th hole to question their advice. Probably the White House never really thought much about what might happen. And they were totally unprepared when Ukraine blew up, and they have been kinda making it up ever since. They have a political need to look tough, despite the fact that no one in the White House personally gives a crap about Ukraine, and their every move seems to dig the hole deeper, and their poll numbers would go through the zero line if they actually got US troops involved. Barry probably walks around the White House whistling “take this job and shove it; I ain’t working here no more.”

      I am not one to ever doubt the power of the Tribe in Washington, but what is their angle here? Yes, the Israel lobby is unhappy with Putin for supporting Iran and supplying them with nuclear technology. But how does the Ukrainian cluster-frog help? If it was AIPAC’s idea, so far it looks like either a miscalculation or a very long game. If you can draw a line from the Ukraine mess to the US bombing Iran, congratulations you win the prize.

      The score so far: standing up to the West for mother Russia has made the corrupt tyrant very popular bordering on invincible at home. Ethnic Ukrainians are not willing to fight to keep the Russian speakers under their control, so the separatists have no risk of military defeat. Barry finds himself the foster-dad of two ethnically divided failed states that don’t make sense, when all he wants is to have dinner parties and play golf.

      But some things are so bad they are good. If Barry succeeds in growing a pair on Europe, and stranding the neocons in a ditch outside of Donetsk, and ending US imperium, it would benefit the American people and be the greatest accomplishment by an American president since forever. So what if he did it by accident. A win’s a win.

    • marknesop says:

      First article: Germany still takes the position – welcome though this article otherwise is – that Crimea was “annexed” and that it is a violation of international law. Show me, motherfuckers. Show me chapter and verse of the law it violates, and then prepare to give Kosovo back to Serbia. Show me, or shut the fuck up about it.

      Second article: Money shot, ” “De-escalation? Good luck.” Things have now been set on an irreversible course, and our world will not be the same when this is over.

      Third article: It did not have to be this way, at all. Russia pursued friendly relations with the United States, trade was increasing, everything was ticking along fairly well despite American institutionalized Russophobia, constant demonization of Putin and stubborn attempts to expand the gay agenda to Russia. Then the west – but mostly the United States – got it in its head that the west must have Ukraine: that it could run one of its transparently-phony democracy-and-freedom campaigns, get possession of it and then turn it into a big NATO base to harass and torment Russia. The whole situation that results is the fault of the United States and its meddling, and to an only slightly lesser extent the fault of Europe for parroting Washington’s lines and being dragged along on the Chump Express. Serves you right, and if your economy is kicked to bits as a result of your foolishness, it looks good on you.

  5. Apparently rebel partisans managed to destroy six fuel tankers today in the Zaporozhye region. That region is near Dnepropetrovsk and quite far from Donetsk/Lugansk.

    It is very good if the rebels have managed to put up partisan units to disrupt the supply lines of the Junta army outside of DPR.

  6. yalensis says:

    Those same Zaporozhie partisans claim to have captured a (possibly) American military instructor:

    PARTIAL TRANSLATION
    Last night, just to the east of the town of Gulyai-Pole, which, as everybody knows, is the native town of Nestor Ivanovich Makhno (…) in the direction of the populated point of Malinovka (…) the Novorossiya partisans conducted an ambush. Into this ambush fell a column of (Ukrainian) National Guard, accompanied by American instructors.
    In the course of the brief battle were destroyed: one Ural, one KrAZ, 2 KamAZ (trucks), and also a Hummer was captured (…)

    Inside that Hummer was a very not-young man (i.e., a late middle-aged man?) wearing a camo uniform without any insignias. When questioned in Russian, even supplementing with Malorussian dialect, the prisoner replied in a language that was unfamiliar to all the rebels. They know it wasn’t German, since one of the DPR rebels not only learned German in school, but even became quite fluent in the wild 90’s, when he (had a job) driving stolen cars out of Germany. In distinction to a naked Negro, who was (also) captured recently, near Shakhtarsk, who had ripped off his own clothes and tried to hide from the insurgents who were pursuing him in the darkness of night [yalensis: That is either very racist, or very brilliant!], this other (guy, in the Hummer) possessed a face with typical European features.

    (…) The partisans decided to take this prisoner with them and see if they could trade him for somebody else…

  7. yalensis says:

    Ichkerian connections of Tetiana Chornovol and her dead hubby:

    According to the Deputy Ministry of Internal Affairs, Anton Gerashchenko, Tetiana’s hubby Nikolai Berezovoi was killed by a rebel sniper near the town of Ilovaisk.
    One of Nikolai’s fellow soldiers, whose name was not given, was killed as well.
    Both dead guys will be awarded medals.

    PARTIAL TRANSLATION (of the rest of the article)
    At the age of 17, Tetiana Chornovol was already taking part in UNA-UNSO activities, later becoming the press-secretary for the organization (for which she did not receive a salary). In the year 2000, along with her future husband, Tetiana worked in the self-declared republic of Ichkeria, where she collected material about the “liberation struggle” of the Chechen people. From 1998 through 2001, Chornovol occupied the post of leader of the “Informational center for the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria”, which was located in Kiev, and which was created by Aslan Maskhadov.

    [yalensis: wouldn’t it be ironic if it turned out that hubby was killed by a CHECHEN sniper?]

  8. kirill says:

    From militaryphotos by singidunum:

    “”Originally Posted by JSJanka View Post
    I’ve read and seen (on videos) many times that Ukrainian military personnel are complaining about Seps firing artillery onto them from densely-populated areas.
    So UA forces are responding with counter-artillery fire. Of course, the way they make their strikes is a way too harsh given the rules of International Humanitarian Law but then again… every time I see Rus media showing damage in cities I always tend to see seps in the background and, sometimes, they even provide damage assessment.

    Ukrainian media and military sources also report occasionally that Seps are trying to hit ATO force’s positions but miscalculate and hit civilian areas.

    It is probably best for the civilians if Novorussian forces operate out of city limits to avoid casualties. IDF used and still does justify its strikes in Gaza, that if the civilian object is used by military personnel, in that case, Hamas’ Al-Qassam Brigades, then that object becomes a legit target by international law. Therefore, in this case, it would be harder then to convict Ukrainian military leaders of war crimes if an investigation is ever launched.”

    no. take a look at Sarajevo and its basically the same case – the difference being that the Serbs held a part of town, while ukrainian army doesnt. So – we had military positions right next to civilians which caused collateral damage. The Hague tribunal sentenced a number of serbian commanders to a long term prison sentences for precisely the same thing ukrainian army is doing now – for shelling the city and causing civilian causalties without being able to prove that shelling was in accordance with the international conventions – meaning that shelling provided immediate military advantage which outweighted civilian casualties.
    Not that I expect any of the western client states and its leaders (like Poroshenko) to answer for the war crimes, especially not in a western-run tribunal.

    —————————————————————————————

    So we had Serb commanders sentenced to heavy prison sentences for shelling civilians by the Hague. I would say what the Kiev regime is doing is much, much worse. There are no military positions in the target areas of the *random* shelling attacks. The rebels are on the outskirts and not stationed inside the rebel held towns.

    If the regime had legitimate military targets inside the rebel held population centers then the USA would have been trumpeting evidence of this. For example, they would produce satellite photos of Grad launchers inside Donetsk or some other town. Not a single freaking photo or even description of such targets.

    • marknesop says:

      This is the same argument the USA made for bombing the shit out of Baghdad – send the Republican Guard out to fight, marshaled in their neat rows by platoons, so that the USAF can make one leisurely pass over them and blow them all up within seconds of each other. Yes, that’d be easy, wouldn’t it? Send Hamas out with their stovepipe rockets and scrap guns, so that the finest-equipped army in the Middle East can annihilate them in one great orgy of destruction and be home in time for brunch. Just because an army fights from within the city it defends does not mean it is deliberately putting the civilian population in danger, and it would be suicide for the smaller and weaker army to come out into the open where the more powerful one’s superior firepower and numbers could easily crush it. The Ukie army would have an argument if it were only shooting at positions from where it has taken fire, or if it did days of reconnaissance to determine rebel positions. Instead, it starts blazing away as soon as it is in range and does not care what it hits – that “subhuman” remark blew a big hole in Ukraine’s case, and their continued insistence that the rebels must surrender before there can be any negotiations does nothing to make Porko look magnanimous: why should he grant any petitions from conquered people?

  9. kirill says:

    http://ria.ru/world/20140809/1019417780.html

    survivors of the cauldron:

    72nd – 467
    24th – 473
    79th – 369
    3 spn – 1 battalion

    So 3500 MIA/KIA seems to be the real deal. This is a grotesque and war criminal waste of lives by the regime. Not that I have much sympathy for the scum that butcher civilians via shelling and bombing. But these are my people.

    • patient observer says:

      And the rebel losses are in the low hundreds if not less. That kind of kill ratio is unheard of. In the Vietnam war, it was probably at most 10 to 1 with most of the killing done by airstrikes and artillery in a grossly asymmetrical balance of military power. The “enemy” won by tenacity, bravery, smarts and a steady supply of weapons appropriate for their situation.

      How could two forces with the same types of weapons have suffered such asymmetrical losses with the heavier losses suffered by the side with far more equipment? Can incompetence by one side account for it? Or brilliant tactics by the other side? Both? Cowardice versus bravery? Could Russian help been so significant as to turn the underdog into the overwhelmingly superior victor based on the kill ratio? And these numbers were from dozens of battle where fluke/lucky wins would be smoothed oout statistically. I don’t get it.

      • Southerncross says:

        The American forces in Vietnam were vastly stronger and better-trained than the Ukrainians.

        One might compare it with the First Chechen War. Russian military losses being in the area of 3800-5300 KIA, and rebel losses being somewhere from 4,000 – 15,000 KIA. Take the early 90s Russian army, add an additional decade of robbery and mismanagement, remove the air force as a serious fighting arm, and the alleged casualty figures for the current war become more plausible.

  10. kirill says:

    http://aftershock.su/?q=node/250218

    Tax collection in Ukraine in 2014. Same as in the same period of 2013. Can you believe it? No way this can be a legitimate collection.

  11. anon says:

    Сообщение от журналистов.

    “Партизаны Харьковской области разгромили вражескую автоколонну и захватили машину американских ПТУРов.

    В Изюмском районе Харьковской Народной республики, временно оккупированной войсками киевской хунты, уничтожена колонна снабжения, которая везла боеприпасы для дислоцированной в городе Изюм 1-й отдельной танковой бригады, передислоцированной туда из Черниговской области. Четыре грузовика с боеприпасами взлетели на воздух. Пятый же грузовик оказался заполнен не танковыми снарядами, а американскими ПТУР FGM-148 Джавелин (Javelin).
    Скорее всего, Джавелины были привезены в Харьков американскими военно-транспортными самолётами, которые зачастили туда в последние несколько ночей”.

    Posted by journalists.

    “The partisans of the Kharkiv region defeated enemy convoy and seized car with american ATGM.

    In Izium near Kharkov People’s Republic destroyed supply column, which was carrying ammunition deployed in Raisin 1st Tank Brigade, to relocate there from Chernihiv region. Four truckloads of ammunition blew up. The fifth truck turned out to be filled with tank shells and ATGM FGM-148 Javelin (Javelin).

    (NAF guerrilla in Kharkov region attacked a #Ukraine convoy and captured FGM-148 Javelin.)

    Most likely, javelina were brought to Kharkiv by american military transport aircraft, which is often there in the last couple of nights. “

    • kirill says:

      If this is true it is clear military supply from NATO to the Kiev regime. Russia should call an emergency session of the UN and demand NATO to desist or it will start supplying the rebels.

    • Southerncross says:

      The story may be true, but the photo definitely isn’t from Ukraine.

  12. yalensis says:

    For some unknown reason, this vicious civil war is negatively affecting Ukraine’s economy.

  13. yalensis says:

    On the cultural front:
    Steven Seagal joins David Duchovky in going against the narrative. In this example, Seagal goes to a biker show in Sebastopol and dons a T-shirt depicting Putin as a biker-dude.

    One has to believe that Hollywood celebs like Seagal and Duchovny are making a deliberate choice, they risk becoming outcasts among the “cool liberal crowd” in Hollywood who despise Russia and support Obama’s State Dept. in all its murderous and genocidal projects. People like Angela Jolie and Brad Pitt, for example!

    • marknesop says:

      Unfortunately, Steven Seagal is a clown, and having him on your side is a little like being defended by a mental patient.

      • Southerncross says:

        There isn’t a single Hollywood A or B lister I would trust to park my car. They’re all clowns, from Ackroyd to Zellweger.

        The purportedly sane should consider why it is that the mental patient is the one urging everyone involved to stop fighting and talk through their differences.

        • marknesop says:

          That’s just it – it’s the right message, but I’m afraid it will be damaged by the fact that Seagal is such a buffoon. They will say, “Look at the people Putin has on his side!!” and it will do more harm than good.

      • Jen says:

        It’s generally the case that those Hollywood actors who object to the mainstream news media narratives usually end up being derided as clowns and nutcases. Their careers suffer as a result and their personal lives also get picked over for spousal abuse, struggles with the demon liquor or issues with the police. The only work they can get is usually lowbrow TV sit-coms or day-time soap operas. Charlie Sheen (questioning the official government account on who carried out the World Trade Center attacks and how they were done), Sharon Stone (supporting Sheen), Darryl Hannah (eco-activism) and Woody Harrelson (pro-marijuana) are some actors who could have achieved much more in Hollywood than they have, given the quality of acting “talent” they were up against, but didn’t because they insisted on having their own opinions about certain issues.

        I certainly think there is a definite narrative encouraging the association of Steven Seagal and Gerard Depardieu with Vladimir Putin. Depardieu is way past his best as an actor and Seagal is in deep B-grade territory. They are regarded as cranks and eccentrics, definitely “un-cool” and so anyone who expresses even a mildly positive opinion about Putin would qualify as someone cranky and a bit mental.

        • patient observer says:

          Sinead O’connor, a very talented Irish rock/folk singer/writer had a career that was headed for the huge stardom until she tried to take on two Western empires and one of its celebrity princes – the Anglo, the Vatican and the U2 Bono. Her career was diminished as a result but she is still rightly regarded as a great artist in the rock/folk world.

        • Fern says:

          RT’s Oksana Boyko did an interview with Steven Seagal some time back about his friendship with Putin and his views on Russia. Seagal has met Putin several times and been a guest in his house – they have a shared interest in martial arts and the eastern philosophies that underpin them. I’m no fan of Seagal but he comes across quite well and he’s clearly genuinely baffled by the Russophobic nature of much of the American discourse and sincere in wanting to improve relations between the two countries.

    • Fern says:

      And on cue (lights! camera! action!), Penelope Cruz and Javier Bardem are reportedly facing a Hollywood backlash for their signing of a letter condemning Israel’s actions in Gaza.

    • ThatJ says:

      What is Zhirinovsky saying here?

      • kirill says:

        That Putin, as Russia’s leader, will decide where everything goes like WWI and WWII. He goes off an a rant about taking out Poland and the Baltics as vital military targets and then sitting down to talk. He is clearly playing his clown role.

        But he is right in the sense that Putin will decide where this whole game goes. Putin is going to wait until the Kiev regime is surrounded by the ashes of Ukraine’s economy and the peasants are heading to Kiev once again. The next big standoff will be natural gas in late fall. The western media will 100% lie full bore that “Russia is cutting off the gas” when it will be the vermin in Kiev doing all the stealing and all the valve closing. Russia has to figure out a way to force the west to eat its lies. But I do not know how they can do this. In 2009, Yuschenko cut off the gas flow and Gazprom pointed to the independent Swiss engineering company it hired to monitor the gas flow to prove that it was the Kiev government that was closing the valves. The western media simply ignored the facts and pulled the same blood libel as with the Malaysian airliner: proof by assertion.

  14. Fern says:

    I’ve been reading – mainly in the ‘comments’ section of various blogs that Putin has fired/dismissed/retired/ around 18 military personnel – some are speculating that it’s to do with corruption, others that these guys were pushing a pro-intervention line in Ukraine and he distrusted what they were likely to be doing. Anyone have any ideas about this story?

  15. Fern says:

    Estonia, whose economy will be hammered by the Russian import bans, is getting very upset with Switzerland for not throwing in its lot with the EU and sanctioning Russia. Expect an unwillingness to wreck your own economy to be made illegal soon.
    http://en.ria.ru/russia/20140810/191891001/Estonias-President-Criticizes-Switzerland-for-Lack-of-Sanctions-Against-Russia.html

    • cartman says:

      Keep in mind that many of the post-USSR leaders in the Baltic states have been Americans, including the Estonian PM.

      Even Yatz’s family lives in Santa Barbara, CA. They don’t care that they leave behind shitholes.

    • colliemum says:

      The Estonian President seems to have overlooked that Switzerland, unlike the other two neutral countries he mentioned, Sweden and Ireland, is not a member of the EU.
      And since when is it forbidden for a country to put their own interests above that of other countries?
      I find it fascinating how the representatives of the Baltic States and Poland keep screaming for sanctions because of that Big Bad Bear: they are all hanging on the feeding drop of the EU, but don’t seem to grasp that these sanctions also damage Germany. If Germany becomes unable to pay their contributions to the EU, then good night to the whole lot of them, from the PIIGS to Estonia and Poland.

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