General Wesley Clark Quarterbacks the Great Game – America’s National Strategery

Uncle Volodya says, "In great contests each party claims to act in accordance with the will of God. Both may be, and one must be wrong. God cannot be for and against the same thing at the same time.”

Uncle Volodya says, “In great contests each party claims to act in accordance with the will of God. Both may be, and one must be, wrong. God cannot be for and against the same thing at the same time.”

Remember, a few months back, when the United States was not going to get involved in a “bidding war” over Ukraine? Back then (beginning of December, 2013), America was faintly disdainful at the notion of getting down in the mud and wrestling over Ukraine. In fact, although that reference is not the main support for this post, it contains such a wealth of rich ironies that I want to stay with it for a couple of minutes.

Starting with the hot-button statement by U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry, otherwise known as The Arch-Fool of President Obama’s buffoon government, that “violence has no place in a modern European state”. He was referring to clashes between Maidan protesters and state police in Kiev, which later turned from merely violent to deadly, resulting in the shooting deaths of protesters and police by what Kiev’s ‘investigation’ recently determined were rogue elements of the Ukrainian Security Service, the SBU, in another of a disgraceful series of Ukrainian governmental cover-ups that often serve the dual purpose of getting rid of political opponents.

That so, John? Perspectives change rapidly in politics, I probably don’t have to tell you, because it wasn’t much later before the Arch-Fool and his colleagues opined that President Poroshenko had “a right to defend his country”.

Here’s a look at how he’s defending it: this is Sergey Prokofiev International Airport, in Donetsk. It hasBirds fly near the traffic control tower of the Sergey Prokofiev International Airport damaged by shelling during fighting between pro-Russian separatists and Ukrainian government forces in Donetsk been completely destroyed, a write-off, by the Ukrainian Army. In case you wondered, this Donetsk is indeed in Ukraine.

Only a couple of years ago, in 2012, Ukraine spent $470 million on it getting it ready for the Euro 2012 football championship, which Ukraine co-hosted.

 

This is what it looked like then.

wpid-332390_171366672966209_1870365738_oThe Donetsk international airport was completely destroyed, in Ukraine, by Ukrainians. The Ukrainian Army shelled and bombed it to prevent it being used to resupply federalist rebels who did not want to be governed by Kiev, although God knows where that resupply was supposed to come from.  Once they took it, they used it as a stronghold from which to indiscriminately shell the city of Donetsk, killing dozens of civilians. In trying to dislodge government forces to prevent this, the federalists also shelled it, and finally took possession of the shattered, burned-out ruin.

That’s just a tiny glimpse of the mindless destruction; the city of Slavyansk was almost leveled, and Lugansk and Donetsk have also experienced billions in property damage and ruined infrastructure. All, all unacceptable according to John Kerry 2013, but all of which took place with the stern approval of John Kerry 2014. John Kerry 2013 squealed with righteous indignation at the prospect of Yanukovych’s Berkut riot police defending themselves with shields and batons against fire-bombs, rifles and pistols – the correct thing for Kiev police to do would be to stand back and let the protesters have their way. John Kerry 2014 did not demur when Poroshenko fired short-range ballistic missiles at Ukrainian cities full of civilians. On that occasion, the American response was – you guessed it – “Ukraine has encountered serious threats to its security, and can use whatever means necessary and proportionate to defend itself. But NATO does not officially confirm that ballistic missiles have been used in the conflict.” I don’t know how many times an American crony-client has ever gotten a green light quite the glistening emerald brilliance of that one.

The same source article seemed to think it was okay for Washington to show its displeasure by snubbing Ukraine, after Yanukovych inexplicably turned away from EU association, but now Vladimir Putin is The Biggest Fucking Baby Ever because he won’t give Ukraine cheap gas and help them get into the EU by buying their products. Kerry 2013 argued that Russia was bullying Ukraine, as witnessed by its choice of a Russian path, and that “Ukraine should be free to choose its own path dictated by the will of the people. Obviously that’s no longer valid, since Kerry 2014 says it’s OK for Poroshenko to force the easterners to accept Kiev’s rule even though the Ukrainian constitution guarantees them the right of self-determination.

Anyway, that’s all the time we can spend on John Kerry, how the hell did we get talking about him? Yeah, so as recently as last Christmas, America’s position was that Ukraine was an international embarrassment (remember, Yanukovych was still in power), but if its leader wanted to go suck up to Russia, well, there’s no accounting for some people’s taste. If Ukraine wanted to take the non-EU road, well, let them. Just don’t expect the USA to shake its pom-poms and cheer.

But according to General (Ret’d) Wesley Clark, former SACEUR (Supreme Allied Commander Europe) 1997-2000, Democratic presidential candidate 2004, and former CNN expert-opinion generator during the Iraq War, Ukraine is central to America’s global strategy, and has been for quite some time. Those sneaky devils – they wanted Ukraine all along, they were just psyching us out with that ho-hum-this-is-boring attitude. Which puts quite a different complexion on the events which took EuroMaidan from just a few squawking perennially-dissatisfied students to a well-organized mob to snipers on the rooftops to Yanukovych fleeing for his life and a bunch of western proxies appointing themselves rulers, all to a steady backbeat of Russia-is-meddling-the-Russians-are-behind-this-get-the-RussiansRussiansRussians.

It’s likely no coincidence that Wesley Clark has a new book out this week, “Don’t Wait For the Next War – A Strategy For American Growth and Global Leadership”. It’s customary for authors launching a new book to go on the lecture circuit and bloviate their opinions, do a little PR song and dance to get the punters interested enough to lay their money down. And consequently it may be easy, in light of the Lockheed-Martin hood ornament Wesley Clark has morphed into, to forget it was Wesley Clark who first blew the whistle on George W. Bush’s neocon road show and its plans to knock over 7 countries in 5 years, reordering the global chessboard irrecoverably in America’s favour and destroying any country which resisted. Fairness bids me point out they were very nearly successful, smashing Iraq and Libya and killing their leaders, and kicking the stuffing out of Lebanon through Israel hard enough to make it curl up in the dirt. Disgust bids me point out that Obama continues to follow the program as if he were on rails. Yes, we can, motherfuckers.

Former General Clark skips past the aperitif, and gets straight to the meat course; all of America’s problems will be harder to deal with if it does not bring Ukraine securely into the western orbit. Why? Well, because Vladimir Putin – synonymous with the Russian bully-state – needs to subjugate Ukraine for much more ambitious reasons than just making Ukraine Russia’s bitch. He needs to slap Ukraine down so all of Eastern Europe – “and others”, so I guess he means the whole world – knows who has the biggest boots in this ass-kicking contest. Once he has cowed everyone, like the larger-than-life mafia kingpin the west loves to characterize him as, well, he can just walk into a jewelry store in Prague, or Barcelona or Paris or wherever, say “Give me that diamond-encrusted Hublot Classic“, and then walk out without paying for it, while the proprietor is happy just not to have been killed. Figuratively speaking, of course, although that scenario plays nicely also to Putin’s vaunted love of expensive watches that cost more than the Russian annual GDP. Putin will be able to bop around Europe taking whatever he wants, or so General Clark would have you believe.

It’s depressing how often I have to say on this blog, “it’s hard to overstate how stupid this is”, but no other phrase seems to fit, and stupidity can penetrate any armor but indifference. It’s hard to overstate how stupid the idea is that Putin is getting ready to roll up all of Europe and make it his own, especially in light of the demonstrated fact that it has been Russia which has consistently begged international agencies like the United Nations to step in  and stop the civil war in Ukraine, and whose pleas have fallen on deaf ears, while it has been Washington puppet Ban-ki-Moon – who would be Pralines and Idiot if he were an ice-cream flavour – has declined to do anything while Uncle Sam smirked in the background. Amazingly, Russia has been the most defensive and least aggressive power in the region, while Poland and the Baltic Chihuahuas have begged the west to bulk up their military clout with NATO troops and weapons even though they have received no threats from Russia at all (unless you count “numerous Russian violations of their airspace”, which I imagine they have demarcated to the millimeter).

As if that were not sufficiently nauseating, General Clark goes on to tell us that  none of the challenges facing the United States can be successfully met “unless we have really tight relations with the countries that most share our values. That’s Europe”. That so? Depends who you ask. Pew Global Research says attitudes toward America on the part of Europeans have not changed much in the last 5 years or so, although that may have something to do with the methodology; Pew combines “favourable” and “somewhat favourable” into the same response category, just as it does with unfavourable, so that subtler shadings are harder to see. But according to Time and its interactive graphic, using the methodology of measuring the gap between favourable and unfavourable ratings, the USA slid in popularity in most European countries between 2011 and 2013. There has been little polling conducted in Europe, or at least published, in the last couple of months since U.S-driven sanctions have begun to play havoc with the economy, but it is kind of counter-intuitive to imagine this has increased the USA’s popularity, or  the perception in Europe that the USA and Europe share common values. In Germany, bellwether of Europe thanks to its economic growth, 40% of Germans between 18 and 29 wanted to reduce their country’s cooperation with the U.S.

Following the time-honoured script, Clark then moves to a personal anecdote, in which he asked the Prime Minister of an Eastern European country if he would be willing to provide military assistance to Ukraine, which was his friendly neighbour. The leader in question got all big-eyed and nervous, and allegedly supplied exactly the answer General Clark needed to ram home his point: “No!!! We’re afraid of Russia!!”. See? Simple. Remove the threat of a bullying and aggressive Russia – a simple matter facilitated by the massive purchase of western weaponry, give ’til it hurts – and Europe will once again be peaceful and prosperous and happy. Russia is what’s wrong with the world.

I couldn’t help noticing how helpful that unnamed East-European leader was, quite a bit like that hapless mook who always approached a western journalist during Russian elections and asks where he should go to get paid for voting for Putin. Never fails; as reliable as a Timex.

And does the USA love Europe, and is it looking out for its best interests? I guess it is. Remember “Fuck the EU“? Even more illustrative of America’s maternal love for its Euorocousins is this clip of conservatroll Condi Rice calmly speculating that the European economy might have to crash in order to bring Russia to heel (but trust her, Russia will run out of cash first), the Europeans might have to tolerate being cut off from Russian oil and gas – but they should think of it as casting off the shackles, and an opportunity to make the USA their new Energy Daddy, as its bounty (I believe she actually says that) flows to hungry European markets. Apparently she has secretly discovered how to teleport oil and gas to Europe, as no mechanism currently exists to get American oil and LNG to Europe except by ocean-transiting tankers, and the current LNG capability would not satisfactorily supply even one European country, let alone all of Europe. She’s even talking pipelines, and if that’s not snapping-turtle crazy then I’ve lost my ability to recognize crazy. Nabucco is dead as Kurt Cobain, and there are no other arrangements for pipelines that cross neither Russia or Ukraine which would work, for any number of reasons. This is just soothing the frightened European children, wall-eyed with fear. Thanks to The Saker for that great clip.

What’s at the bottom of this? America is worried that it is losing its hold over Europe and the possibility of continuing to maintain it through the NATO alliance. “If we lose Ukraine, NATO will be much more difficult to manage,” says General Clark. That’d be the military cooperative created to counter the military muscle of the Soviet Union, which no longer exists, and which maintained its relevancy upon the perceived threat of the Warsaw Pact, which also no longer exists.

The bleats that Putin wants to re-create the Soviet Union are regularly invoked so that you will not notice NATO no longer has an adversary, and that there is no compelling reason for its continued existence.

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1,187 Responses to General Wesley Clark Quarterbacks the Great Game – America’s National Strategery

  1. et Al says:

    So Harper is in the closet! I guess it is easier to talk very loudly when the apparent threat (Russia) is far away…

    The Gardening Man: Canadian PM hid in store cupboard while gun battle was fought nearby
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/24/canadian-pm-stephen-harper-ottawa-shooting?google_editors_picks=true
    Stephen Harper without security detail when Michael Zehaf-Bibeau stormed building before being killed by sergeant-at-arms

  2. Moscow Exile says:

    The campaigning genius of Porky Poroshenko:

    Петр Порошенко: «Бандеровская» Одесса — лучший комплимент для города

    Petro Poroshenko: Calling Odessa “banderite” is the best compliment to give the city

    He surprised everyone. Speaking in this Hero City, he solemnly declared: “At the moment, Odessa has become a very pro-Ukrainian city! In the Russian media they even say Odessa is ‘banderite’, and for me no greater compliment than that could be given to Odessa!”

    Petro Poroshenko reminded everyone that Odessa had “paid a very high price” during the tragic events of May 2, when in the Trade Unions House were burnt alive and beaten to death 48 anti-fascists and another 200 wounded by burns or who had suffered the effects of poisoning. According to Poroshenko, this had been necessary “because of what we would now see happening if the attempts of the separatists had not been stopped then”.

    Glory to the Ukraine! To the Heroes – glory!

    What a foul bastard!

    • cartman says:

      Ukrainians are really sick people.

      • kirill says:

        The Banderite flavour of them is. Since half my family is from western Ukraine I have some sense that not all people are this demented. Those members of my family who drink the koolaid have been worked over in the west. Unfortunately this western brainwashing has been applied in Ukraine for over 20 years and has produced a generation of idiots who are easily led around by the nose by the western puppet Banderites.

    • ucgsblog says:

      Poroshenko logic: “Russia is the enemy, ergo Russia must give us discounted gas!” What a phenomenal idiot.

  3. ThatJ says:

    Breaking: Three deputies, one civilian shot in California

    http://rt.com/usa/199108-california-shooting-deputies-civilian/

    Putin Warns Of Risk Of Major Conflict, Says Dollar Losing Reserve Currency Status

    Having been relatively quiet for a while, Russia’s leader Vladimir, speaking in Sochi (following meetings with Middle East crown princes who confirmed Russia as a key partner – “isolated”?), has unleashed his most aggressive statements with regard the failing world order:

    *PUTIN SAYS U.S. DOLLAR LOSING TRUST AS RESERVE CURRENCY
    *PUTIN: WORLD WITHOUT RULES IS POSSIBILITY; ANARCHY GROWING

    Adding that the risk of major conflicts involving major countries is growing, as well as the risk of arms control treaties being violated, Putin exclaimed that the US-led unipolar world is like a dictatorship over other countries and that “US leadership brings no good for others,” and calls for a new global consensus.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-24/putin-warns-risk-major-conflict-says-dollar-losing-reserve-currency-status

    • kirill says:

      Western media coverage is now full bore hate propaganda. They never report NATO harassment of Russian defenses but hype up stories of fictional Russian submarines in Swedish waters. They routinely use the word annexation in reference to Crimea, with the obvious insinuation that it was against the will of the locals and some grossly illegal act even though Kosovo is a direct precedent based on an actual international court of law ruling.

      Poor little west, so threatened by big bad Russia. I see people talk about Russian having invaded Ukraine. This is an echo of the media propaganda campaign. Even if the media does not say that Russia invaded outright, it uses language which in the minds of the average mildly aware human translates into invasion. This can be seen in the inane claim that Russia is fomenting rebellion in the Donbas. Well, then, NATO fomented rebellion in Kosovo.

    • yalensis says:

      Believe it or not, I have actually been to Auburn, California (site of above-mentioned shooting), a couple of years ago, on a business trip. This is quite an interesting as well as convenient area, it is really nice, actually, it is rural, but not far from Sacramento; also close to the California wine country; and also within reach of the beautiful Lake Tahoe, the ski areas, and Reno, Nevada.

      I don’t know why RT is playing up this particular crime spree, it doesn’t seem that significant in the scheme of things, Or is this just their national news page for American viewers. In which case, fair enough.

  4. Anti-Russian feelings have been steadily rising in Finland for a long time and the crisis in Ukraine have accelerated the process. Various internet boards, social media and newspaper’s comment sections are full of hateful and anti-Russian comments.

    The media is even “helping” the process by purposely flaming anti-Russian feelings within the population. All of the major media outlets are more or less anti-Russian with Helsingin Sanomat (our biggest newspaper) and Iltasanomat (biggest tabloid paper) leading the way, both owned by Sanoma group.

    Since Finland has a big Russian minority I have been afraid if they might be subjected to a violence or attacks because of this growing hatred. Many Russians living in Finland have been telling how they are more and more afraid of revealing their ethnicity in fear of aggressive responses.

    A couple of weeks ago a 58 year old Russian woman was brutally murdered in Helsinki. She was beaten for hours and finally her body was found at a shore of the Baltic sea. The mainstream media did not say that the victim was Russian until it was revealed in the social media.

    The murderer was found and his name is Jukka Romppainen. He is a 28 year old leader of the youth group of Finland’s biggest party National Coalition. The murdered woman was a neighbor of Romppainen.

    Romppainen is a known Russian hater in social media. His Facebook wall was full of anti-Russian messages. He was very vocal against the Crimean operation of Russia and had a lot of racist remarks about Russia and Russian people in his Facebook page.

    In spite of this the Finnish police does not believe that a racial hate was a motivation for this murder, even when it is known that Romppainen both hated Russia and knew that this woman was a Russian, and there is no other sensible motive for the murder. Also the fact that the authorities wanted to conceal the victim’s nationality speaks some volumes. It is not good publicity for Finland that the leader of a youth group of Finland’s biggest party brutally beat an old Russian woman to her death.

    I hope that this is not a new trend here where Russians have to be concerned about their safety. There is a lot of hate on the air, but so far things have not escalated to open violence against Russians.

    • kirill says:

      Thank you for the information. It is sad that people in the west are such saps and can be herded like sheep. None of them stop to think what the logical conclusion is for all their hate.

      People talk about some progression to enlightenment by civilization. BS. The primitive tribalism is genetic and there is no evolutionary process happening on timescales of relevance (do you want to wait 100,000s of years or more likely millions to see human genetic change?). Rwanda, Ukraine, Germany of the 1930s, Finland and much of NATO today. Same shit over and over.

      • Finland has always been more or less anti-Russian country. But the scale has varied over the time. During the times of the Soviet Union the general public was a lot less anti-Russian and mainly because the media was not anti-Russian (or anti-Soviet) back then.

        Russians were seen as alien and “different” then as well, but the deep hatred that is a current trend here was just not there. Media has just too much influence over how people think.

        I am very concerned about the young generation in Finland over how they see Russia. I am in my early thirties now, so I was not fed with this constant anti-Russian hysteria when I was a kid. But the current children are.

        I know a person here in Finland who has a 11 year old kid. He told to his parents that in school his history teacher had said that “Putin is bad”. That was the second time that this kid had said the same thing. I don’t really know how common it is in Finland that teachers “politicize” teaching like this, but at least I know this one occasion. It would not surprise me at all if it was more common, because most teachers in Finland tend to be more right-leaning politically.

        If it is true that these children are taught to hate Russia by their teachers and by media (and by parents in many cases) we will have a new generation here with even a greater hatred towards Russia than the generation that are adults now.

        In a way we are in the same phase of the cycle that was in 1920’s and 1930’s when Russian-hate (ryssäviha) was a semi-official religion in Finland. The next phase of the cycle was war. I’m not saying that it was all Finland’s fault since the Soviet Union actually did invade Finland in 1939, but the attitude towards Soviet Union was such that Finland would have joined forces with Nazi Germany in 1941 even without Winter War in 1939 happening.

        • Southerncross says:

          Finland got off lightly in the last war, compared with the other Axis states (which it was – guff about ‘co-belligerency’ notwithstanding).

          So why shouldn’t Finns make a religion out of hating Russia? It makes them feel powerful and righteous, and it has no real downside since Russia doesn’t retaliate in any significant way (the produce ban is entirely inadequate for this purpose). And the fluke of the Winter War makes them think they’re invincible, so they believe they needn’t fear Russia in any event.

          It’s a matter of faith. And faith isn’t broken unless refuted in some dramatic, undeniable manner.

          • I agree that Finland got off very easily in the last war (which I am glad). Finland suffered practically no civilian casualties and our military casualties were light in comparison to just about anyone else that were in that war. But Finland did lose 12% of its territory including access to Barents Sea which was a big loss economically and morally.

            Finland made a deal with Soviets after it was clear that Germany will lose the war and drove out Germans from Finland. Soviets had neither the resources or will to conquer Finland because taking Berlin was more important (and after the war ended it was not necessary anymore).

            You could write a book about the subject “why hatred of Russia is such a long and strong tradition in Finland”. In short my take on the issue is that this has a very little to do with wars. The strongest hatred towards Russia was BEFORE the war during the 1930’s. And after the war the hatred was (maybe forcibly) scaled down. In fact there was a short period of time in the late 1940’s when the Communist party was the second most popular party in Finland. But the Communists were pretty quickly sidelined and taken over by the Finnish Social Democratic party that was left-leaning but not very pro-Soviet.

            Finnish elite has always been Swedish or Swedish origin. Finland was a part of Sweden from ca. 1100 to 1809. Finnish elite has always wanted to disdain itself from Russia or “Russianness” and be more close to western countries, especially Sweden (and later also to Germany and United States) even Finland was a Grand Duchy of Russian Empire.

            I am no psychologist, but I think the hatred is rooted from fear. Geopolitically Finland is just an “extension” of Russia. There are no physical borders between the countries. But there is a HUGE spiritual and mental border. During the early 1900’s there was a short period of “Russification” in Finland when the slavophiles of St.Petersburgh felt that Finland as a “separate country within the Russian Empire” had no justification and just sucked wealth out of Russia without giving anything in return. This caused huge resentment among Finnish elites and the General Governor of Finland Nikolai Bobrikov was murdered by a Finnish nationalist Eugen Schauman (who was a Swedish origin).

            Without WW1 and Bolshevik revolution it is very likely that Finland would have been “Russified”. In my books Lenin and Trotsky were great traitors of Russia, but they were a gift from heaven for Finland. Finnish nationalists actually hid Lenin in Finland in 1905 when he was hiding from Okhrana. Their motive was not love for socialism, but a desire to have the Russian Empire dissolved. Lenin promised that Finland would get an independence if Tsar was thrown out of power. Lenin kept his promise in 1917.

            Ever since Finland got it’s independence the main institutions (mainly school and church that was very powerful back then) were used by the elites to generate as much anti-Russian feelings in Finnish population as possible. The main target was the young population. In fact many Finnish nationalists complained back then that the older folks did not hate Russia “enough”. Those older folks had seen and lived through the period when Finland was a part of Russian Empire and they knew things were not so bad then.

            The younger people had to be raised “correctly” to hate Russia and state institutions were used for it. I imagine that education towards Russia in Finnish schools back then was quite similar than it is now in Ukraine. And they both derive from the same reality. Both Finland and Ukraine share a long border with Russia with no physical barriers, and both countries were/are being ruled by people who want to distance themselves from Russia as much as possible. The lack of physical border creates a need to build as big a spiritual border as possible. And nothing is a bigger physical border than a deep hatred. Hatred big enough to kill innocent civilians, like in Odessa in 2014 or in Vyborg in 1918 (where hundreds of Russian civilians were killed by Finnish Whites).

            From these realities it can also be understood why Finnish elites want a weak Russia or to have Russia break into pieces. A weak Russia is less likely to absorb Finland or have influence over Finland than a strong Russia.

            • I made this comparison to Ukraine because this is why I feel it is absolutely necessary for Russia to “save” as much of Ukraine for itself as possible.

              In Finland Russia had no any leverage because the Russian minority in Finland was very small and had no influence, where in Ukraine the Russia has millions of people who feel great affinity towards Russia. Therefore it is realistic for Russia push the “spiritual border” westwards with military means where in Finland that was not possible.

            • marknesop says:

              Your English is excellent, Karl. Considering it is not your mother tongue, your ability to express yourself in it is quite remarkable.

          • Moscow Exile says:

            As regards Finnish alliance with the axis powers from 1941 until 1944 in what the Finns call “The Continuation War”, namely a continuation of the “Winter War” 1939-40 that ended in defeat for Finland, it is barely, if ever mentioned, in the West that the Finns participated in the siege of Leningrad. This surely is a gross example of manipulating the facts so as to exonerate a Western partner state of any culpability for the horrors of that siege that lasted for 872 days.

            The West often, albeit reluctantly, voices its admiration for the heroic citizens of Leningrad, their being Slav Untermenschen notwithstanding; for their courage and perseverance in withstanding the Nazi horde that was determined to raze the former Russian Imperial capital, though there is often nary a word of Finnish collaboration with the Nazis in mounting this siege.

            The Finns sued for peace in 1944, since when they have always been on the side of the “good guys”.

      • yalensis says:

        I personally don’t want to wait 100K years to see humans genetically modified. Which is why I think we should start the process now. (I’m not joking around.)

        I want scientists to figure out how to breed in qualities of niceness and breed out the viciousness and the tribal mentality from the human brain!

        (And while we’re diddling with biology, let’s do something about hairy armpits, there is no need for that hair any more. Must have been some reason at one point in our evolution, but definitely not necessary any more, since we all wear clothes now, or at least most of us.)

        • marknesop says:

          Actually, you might want to keep the hair; some believe it has to do with pumping out the vibe and indicating your interest in…ummmm…mating.

          Not so much armpit hair, though; you could probably do away with that. But athletes except for swimmers should not, because it helps wick away sweat and reduces the contact of skin on skin when you sweat, which sometimes leads to chafing and rashes.

    • ThatJ says:

      What about the Finns Party? Are they anti-Russian? Incredibly, a Polish nationalist party called New Right is headed by a rather pro-Russian figure.

  5. Fern says:

    A very good article by Alexander Mercouris giving a succinct summary of the gas situation:-

    Ukraine remains unable to pay for its gas. The Russians refuse to provide Ukraine with gas unless it pays for it. The Europeans (resisting suggestions from Moscow) remain unwilling to pay for Ukraine’s gas.  Instead they persist in coming up with intricate schemes to get Russia to supply Ukraine with gas on credit.  One such scheme is that Russia supplies gas on credit to a European company, which then redirects the gas to Ukraine.  Another is that Russia makes an advance payment to Ukraine on its gas transit fees (in effect loans Ukraine the amount of future transit fees), which Ukraine then uses to pay for its gas. The Russians unsurprisingly and predictably outright deny the proposals.

    http://en.ria.ru/authors/20141022/194456710/Ukraine-Russia-Gas-Crisis-Looms-Because-Europe-Refuses-to-Face.html

  6. ucgsblog says:

    BTW, I predicted this would happen in June: http://ucgsblog.wordpress.com/2014/06/09/the-box-not-seen/

    “However, consider this: Southeast Ukraine annexed, Rump Ukraine transferred to EU. Whoops. I’m not seeing that one on there. Is anyone?”

    The EU is now learning that they’re going to be the ones stuck with the bill for Rump Ukraine. Ouch! When I was traveling in Europe, I saw store signs that said “you break it, you buy it!” Looks like someone bought Ukraine.

    “On the other hand the EU would be stuck with Rump Ukraine. The tab of incorporation would be at least $110 billion. And Southeast Ukraine would be Russian. How will the citizens of the EU react to that, when austerity is already ensuring massive gains for any anti-austerity parties, even the ones on the extreme right and left of the political spectrum? My guess is that the EU citizens will not react very positively.”

    • davidt says:

      Yes, I liked your article even if I have trouble really understanding Ukraine. As an aside, is there an electronic “Chechnya today made simple” that you could recommend. On the face of it, VVP has pulled off a minor miracle there. (Has he?)

      • davidt says:

        Sorry, I should have acknowledged Jen’s article here though her article was more about what Russian policy to ought to be. I’m curious as to how one explains the seemingly apparent success of that policy. Anatoly Karlin, Dmitry Orlov and the Saker have all hosted discussions of “Chechnians” rather than “Chechnya” in recent times.

        • yalensis says:

          Dear davidt:
          Putin’s “Chechen miracle” consisted of just a few pragmatic policies, including:
          (1) “Turning” a portion of the enemy into friends, most notably Ramzan Kadyrov.
          (2) Decisively kicking ass of the remaining terrorist bands. [and I use the word “terrorist” correctly here, not emotionally]
          (3) Spending billions rebuilding Grozny into a new shiny city, thus proving that destruction is not a permanent state of affairs,
          (4) Actually winning hearts and minds, or at least proving that true-believer jihadis are in the minority.

          All of the above show a kind of political will and wisdom that is, I believe, traditionally Russian method of dealing with ethnic conflict; and which is, unfortunately, completely beyond the comprehension of western elites, who only know how to destroy, but not build.

          (I think West used to have a clue, in the past, like English colonizing India, but those days are long gone.)

          • yalensis says:

            P.S. – as to the miracle of the re-built Grozny, I remember last year, in the lead-up to Sochi Olympics, American media sent one of their foreign correspondents, Richard Engel, to Grozny , presumably to back their contention that it was unsafe to hold Olympics so close to an Islamist insurgency “in the restive Caucasus”, as they put it.

            I have long suspected that Richard Engel is a Mossad agent, or at the least CIA, but obviously I cannot prove this suspicion. All I know is that he tirelessly promotes any jihadi rebellion he sees. In any case, Richard travelled to Grozny hoping to find that it is still a hellhole and a “restive” hotbed of jihadi resistance to Russian “imperialism”.

            Instead of being treated like the enemy that he is, Richard was accepted in Chechnya as an honoured guest and treated with great hospitality. The president of Chechnya, Kadyrov met with him personally and gave him an exclusive interview.
            As a result, Richard was forced to admit (I saw some of the videos of his reporting, and he had a look of defeat, or at least realistic resignation, on his handsome face) that, nope, nothin’ here to see, Grozny is gorgeous, no jihadis here….

            • kirill says:

              They don’t have to be agents. The job description of a western journalist covering Russia requires the peddling of tropes, lies and insinuations.

          • marknesop says:

            At the root of it is patience, something that seems in short supply in western thinking. The instant-gratification generation seems to have succeeded to leadership in the west.

      • ucgsblog says:

        Not really, so here’s a very brief summary: the Chechens and the Russians generally got along during the Russian Imperial Era, no more/no less than your average Caucasian People and Russians in general. Then the Russian Civil War spread to the Cacausus. The Chechens fought on the side of the Red Army, but did one thing that Stalin could never forgive them for: burned his hometown of Gori, ironically, in Russian that means “Burning City”. This made Stalin very angry, and in 1944 or 1945, as Soviet attention was focused on defeating Nazi Germany, Stalin deported the Chechens.

        Later on Khrushchev allowed the Chechens to return, but by that time, the Khrushchevka Program was already in full swing, (it was a part of Russia’s version of the New Deal,) so the Chechens became one of the poorest Caucasian People. Yet there was little to no talk of secession, since Chechens were catching up. Then the USSR began to fall apart, which was a repeat of the start of the Russian Civil War for the Chechens. They didn’t like it, especially since it was followed by deteriorating economic standards. So they declared independence, (economic issues played a huge role,) from the Russian Federation.

        In 1994, Yeltsin responded by sending in Russia’s Armed Forces. The Chechens and Russians fought each other to a standstill, in a large part due to corruption and sabotage in the Russian Armed Forces, internally. Thus in 1996, the RAF left a weakened Chechnya, which was promptly invaded by Wahhabi Radicals, much like Al Qaeda. They wanted to create a Caucasus Emirate and slowly began to take over Chechnya. By 1998 they controlled a good chunk of Chechnya, just as Russia hit economic default. They decided to invade Dagestan in 1999.

        Everyone was wondering which way Dagestan would turn. Dagestan supported Russia so Wahhabi Radicals, (who came from Saudi Arabia, mostly,) began a campaign of terror, which sometimes reached Genocidal Proportions, according to Richard Sakwa. Although I’m not going to call it Genocide, I will note that he documents the sheer terror that the People of Dagestan felt with extreme precision. More about him: http://www.kent.ac.uk/politics/about-us/staff/members/sakwa.html

        Around this time the Russian Armed Forces revolted, took the Pristina Airstrip, and informed Yeltsin that he was no longer in command, rather impolitely. Quite a few Russians cheered. Putin was brought in to deal with Dagestan, in the hopes that the Russian Armed Forces won’t coup the Kremlin. Stepashin the Unpopular was dismissed. Putin, who was working to fix Russia’s economy at the time, had little knowledge of military affairs, met with the generals, and told them that they’re going to fight the war, he’ll support them economically, and they can go ahead and get rid of any interference.

        The Russians roared into action… yeah right. You have to keep in mind the state of the RAF at the time. The Russians slowly but surely made gains in Dagestan. One of Putin’s, (or his aide’s,) brilliant maneuvers was sending the T-90s, backed by BTR-80s, backed by heli support into Dagestan, which proceeded to win battle after battle, pushing Wahhabi Radicals out of Dagestan. The Russians were greeted as liberators, which enabled Putin to push his economic plan through the Duma.

        Similar strategies were adopted for Chechnya, which began to be liberated that year. The Chechens saw Wahhabi Oppression, which stood in sharp contract to Russian Reconstruction. Only the booze making factories fared worse under the Russians, in part because booze was used as liquid currency. (Booze also serves as a disinfectant for wounds and a cleaner for vehicles.) Chechens didn’t care about that, they wanted their cities rebuilt. Booze-shmooze. And the only ones doing that, were the Russians.

        By 2000 the first set of military operations were completed. By 2002 the Russian military ruled the day, and made gains into the night. In 2006, the Chechen Holy Men declared that Chechnya would be better off with Russia. In 2008 the Russians maintained Caucasian Stability. And, to celebrate a decade of Radical Wahhabi losses and Russian Victories, Medvedev declared the Second Chechen War to be over. The Sochi Olympics finished the reconstruction of the infrastructure of the Caucasus, and Chechens are radically pro-Russian once again. Quite a few Chechens know the starts of Russia’s Olympic team.

        It wasn’t a quick victory. It was a hard fought war, coupled with a stellar rebuilding process. Wahhabi Radicals oppressing anyone and everyone who disagreed with them, certainly contributed to Russian Success; but Putin’s New Economic Deal, coming after a string of Russian Military Victories, were the duo that truly won Chechnya’s heart for Russia.

        • Jen says:

          “… the Chechens and the Russians generally got along during the Russian Imperial Era, no more/no less than your average Caucasian People and Russians in general …”

          @ UCGS: I’m just curious to know what your understanding of the Russian expansion into the Caucasus during the mid-1800s is. At school I was taught that this was brutal, culminating in the Russian army burning farms and croplands in the 1860s, leading to a mass exodus of refugees to the Ottoman empire which settled them in various parts of the Levant (where among other things they founded Amman on the east bank of the Jordan river) and the Balkans. I’m not absolutely sure of the numbers who left but I think they amount to about 600,000. A lot of people died on the way, mostly by drowning in the Black Sea while travelling on overcrowded ships that hit storms. Of those who made it to Turkey, about half later had second thoughts (the Ottomans settled them in areas that were either thinly populated [because they were not productive] or in areas with Christian populations so there was friction leading to fights and Christians wanting independence) and returned to Russia.

          I’ve always found the example of how the Russian govt treated the Caucasian rebel leader Imam Shamil very intriguing because it’s a stark contrast to how other European colonial govts often treated rebel leaders in their colonies. His eldest son was captured at age 8 years as a hostage by the Russian army who turned him over to Tsar Nicholas I. By the time Jamaluddin Shamil was horse-traded back to his father about 20 years after his capture (as part of a hostage exchange: Imam Shamil had captured members of two Georgian noble families and their French governess), he was a fully fledged cavalry officer in the Russian army. Not long afterwards Tsar Nicholas was dead and the young Shamil himself died from TB within 2 years of returning to his family.

          When the Imam himself surrendered to Russian forces, he was exiled to Kaluga, then to Kiev, on a large pension to support his two wives and children. The cities where he lived were given funding to help support him. He was allowed to perform the hajj and he died in Medina after visiting Mecca in 1871. Another of his sons also served with the Russian army.

          • davidt says:

            Sorry, Jen, hope you don’t think that I am rude, but where did you go to school?

          • ucgsblog says:

            Human Rights or nonbrutal wars is a fairly new concept, one that doesn’t always apply. The Caucasian Wars were generally brutal, with tribes wiping out other tribes. From the notes of a SpetzNaz officer: “if you are outnumbered, try to fall back to one of the fortresses here. These aren’t Potemkin’s Villages. When they were built, they were built to last, because if a tribe was to lose its fortress, the tribe could cease to exist.” SpetzNaz isn’t some human rights group that uses the term “cease to exist” lightly.

            That’s not to say that Caucasians were nomadic barbarians, always looking for war; they weren’t, and had, and still have, rich culture and heritage, but when you fight to the death, war becomes a common activity.

            Against this backdrop, the Russian actions were fairly “nice”, in a relative term. More importantly, (and the reason that Imam Shamil began to support the Russians,) is that the Russian Armed Forces were the only group that could bring peace to the wartorn region. Between 1946 and 1982, the Caucasian Region experienced its biggest prosperity in it’s history, because the Red Armed Forces were there to whip the troublemakers. Once the Red Armed Forces were gone, the region descended into warfare, and it was the Russians that took part in all peacekeeping operations. “You’re so cool when you intervene, just don’t do it against us!” is a common Caucasian motto.

            The Russian expansion began because tribes from the Caucasus brought trouble to Russia, since they began to be used by the Ottoman and British Empires to do just that. So the Russian Armed Forces showed up and showed who was boss. Was it brutal? Of course. Was it less brutal than it would’ve been without Russian Intervention? Absolutely.

            That’s why most Caucasian support Russians. There was a recent Adyghe Demonstration, and the media showed it, but never clarified what the demonstrations were about. Long story short, a few idiot chinovniks, decided that their luxury cars weren’t enough, and wanted to acquire yachts. To do this, they wanted to merge Adyghea with Krasnodar Krai, and take the profit from the result. The Adyghe, who would lose a ton of social benefits as a result, understandably protested. When Putin found out what it was about, he, erm… informed the chinovniks if they keep up that crap, instead of yachts they would be shipped to “build yachts” in Siberia, and the situation subsided. Much more Adyghe demonstrated for Social Rights, than for the mythical bones of their ancestors, where the Sochi Olympics were held.

            Resettlement claims should also be taken with a grain of salt. Let’s take the Abkhaz people for example. Prior to Abkhazia’s recognition by Russia, the amount of Abkhaz living in Turkey wasn’t above 40,000. After independence, the number suddenly swelled to 2 million. I understand that Abkhaz women are sexy, but damn, something’s off there.

            The recent Abkhaz protests were also against their idiot president siphoning money from the tourism industry, the most transparent industry in Abkhazia. What was he thinking? Needless to say, when fewer than expected tourists came, the tourism fund was investigated and… there really needs to be a dumbest white collar criminals show.

            So that’s my response: yes, it was brutal, nowhere near as brutal as local wars, and was exaggerated by Ottomans and Brits. However, most of the locals loved it, because it finally brought stability to their war torn region.

            • davidt says:

              Might I selfishly suggest that, at your leisure, you write an article on all this at your blog. It is difficult to save what you are saying as a reference (and, I daresay that there is more you could say).

              • ucgsblog says:

                I can try, (I’ve had numerous requests before,) but it won’t be about the region as a whole, since that’s impossible to cover in a single blogpost. Caucasian History rivals Russian History. Caucasus’ most famous castle, Derbent, is probably an article in its own right: http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/1070

                I might do a series of articles on events in the Caucasus, and/or expand on my posts here, but giving the Region of Empires proper coverage cannot be done in a single blogpost. When Jen asked me to write about Kokoity vs Saakashvili, that was a much easier article to write: http://ucgsblog.wordpress.com/2014/09/14/battle-of-ukraine/

                (Skip to “A Few Word About Dagestan” and “Kokoity vs Saakashvili”)

                Is there anything specific that you want me to write about?

            • Jen says:

              @ UCG: The “brutal” aspect that I was referring to was the scorched-earth policy of burning people’s houses, croplands and grasslands and forests in the areas where they lived. This was what forced Caucasian communities to leave southern Russia and head for Turkey.

              The American military used similar policies against the Confederates in the Civil War and native peoples in the Midwest and Prairie areas along with killing all the buffalo herds but I don’t recall the history teacher ever mentioning that.

              Thanks for the considered reply, much appreciated.

    • Moscow Exile says:

      From the above linked blog:

      Russia has an amazing history of resurgence. In 1240, Kiev was burned. Within 2 years, the Novgorod Republic took on the mantle to rule Russia utilizing the wisdom of Great Prince Alexander Nevsky. In 1598 the country was falling apart. In 1613, the Romanov Rebirth began in Russia.

      Notwithstanding the already long underway drift of the political centre of gravity in ancient Rus’ away from Kiev to the forests of the north before that had been taking place before 1240, the headbanger Ukrainian nationalists in their fantasies believe that those Slavs that chose to migrate away from the heart of Malaya Rossiya became so deracinated that they eventually metamorphosed into Moskali”, a despicable race that has little or no connection with the ethnically pure mammoth slayers of Rus’, which place these romanticists now like to label as Kievan Rus’, an expression first coined in the 19th century.

      The seeds of Ukrainian nationalism, the myth that there is a nation that is the one, true East Slavic race and inheritor of Ancient [Kievan] Rus’ that has had its inheritance usurped by the Mongol-Tatar-Finno-Ugric Moskaly, were planted in the 19th century by the multi-ethnic Austro-Hungarian Kaiserlich und Königlich Empire, situated on the western frontier of the borderland, as it increasingly felt itself threatened by the huge and ever more mighty Russian Empire to its east.

      This plan to create a buffer state between Eastern Europe and Russia was continued by the victorious German Empire at its cessation of hostilities with the Russian Empire in 1917 with the creation of of a very short lived Ukraine Republic.

      And then along came Nudelmann and friends in 2014 …

      • Southerncross says:

        The Pavel Skoropadsky Hetmanate was quite a different beast from what preceded it and what followed it.

        http://www.eurasiareview.com/22052011-pavlo-skoropadsky-and-the-course-of-russian-ukrainian-relations-analysis/

        Skoropadsky’s dream was that Ukraine would take the lead in waging war upon the Bolsheviks and building a new Russian federal state.

        A beautiful dream, cruelly murdered by uncaring, brutish reality, but if it had come to pass it might have slain Ukrainian nationalism of the Bandera-Konovalets variety in the cradle. The lands of the former Kiev principality might grown past their wretched inferiority complex and taken their place in the new Russian order with the pride and confidence of equals.

      • ucgsblog says:

        The other thing is that Rus was called after the capitals, i.e. Novgorodian Rus, Kievan Rus, Novgorod Republic, Grand Duchy of Muscovy. It wasn’t until Ivan the IV’s Declaration of Csardom that Rus became known by its government, rather than it’s capital, i.e. Csardom, Empire, Union, Federation. However, being “Kievan” didn’t make Novgorod any less of a Russian city.

        Additionally, the Rus tried to move the capital from Kiev several times. It was Novgorod that rejected “that bureaucratic mess”; Sviatoslav tried moving it to Periaslavetz, I think Yuri Dolgorukiy also tried, etc. Ukrainian Nationalists have no argument whatsoever.

        “When was Kiev founded?”
        “882 AD!”
        “And Novgorod?”
        “862 AD!”
        “So how can a mother be twenty years younger than a kid?”

        “Is Crimea Ukrainian?”
        “Yes!”
        “Should I invest in Ukraine?”
        “Absolutely!”
        “So you’d have no issues with me investing in Crimea, right?”

        “What was Kiev’s best year?”
        “882 AD!”
        “What happened?”
        “Army from Novgorod came to Kiev to-”
        “So you won’t mind a repeat, right?”

        It’s just too easy.

        • davidt says:

          Thanks to everyone, especially ucgsblog. (Felt like an idiot after I asked my question and I don’t know why I wrote “Chechian”- the old brain is becoming very clunky.) By the way, from the train, the Tatarstan countryside seemed very wealthy and when it stopped at the new station outside Kazan we couldn’t get over how well dressed people were- it must have been close to midnight, and the station was very busy. A guy in uniform indicated that we shouldn’t take photographs, so I shook my fist at him, making sure that he realized that I was joking. He laughed his head off. Thankfully, other than for one incident, Tatarstan seems very quiet.

  7. ThatJ says:

    Not only visiting, apparently she moved to Moscow.

    Edward Snowden’s Girlfriend, Lindsay Mills, Moved to Moscow to Live with Him

    I seriously thought they had separated after he left the US.

  8. yalensis says:

    Veruca mourns the loss of her Donbass coal fields.

    TRANSLATION
    Donbass is a dotational (=subsidized) region, with a negative balance, but nonetheless Ukraine is seriously dependent on (this region) economically.
    This was the subject of Ukrainian Prime Minister Arsenic Yatsenuk, in an interview to the Kiev Weekly “New Times”.
    In his words, the mines of Donbass are subsidized, as is the pension deficit for the region, where there are more pensioners than workers; but, none the less, Yatsenuk admits, the situation is not as one-sided as appears at first glance.
    “The population of those territories consists of around 5 million citizens,” says the Ukrainian Premiere. “What is 5 million people? It is a consumer base, an internal market for domestic products. What is Donbass? It is, of course, energy. We are completely dependent on Donetsk and Luhansk for coal. Right now the Russians have cut us off from the sources of coal, and we have this crazy deficit. Because our power stations which produce heat for central heating – (ТЭЦ) are built to conform with the types of coal (A,T,G) [А, Т, Г – ?] which are very expensive, because nobody (else) in the world uses them. But because we extract this (type of coal), then we made our furnaces with these (types of coal) in mind.”
    END OF TRANSLATION

    yalensis: Translating this piece was a research project for me. I had to look up brands of coal.

    So…
    Type A is anthracites. That’s hard, shiny coal, right?
    Type T is “skinny” (Russian Тощие), I have no idea what “skinny coal” is, maybe it’s a chunk of coal that is skinny in shape?
    Type G is “Gassy” coal. I think I know what that means!

    So, anyway, Yats is saying that all their home-heating and the way their built their furnaces, etc., is based on the supposition that they get these specific brands of coal from Donbass. And now they don’t have their coal anymore, so I guess their heaters don’t work no more. Tough shit. They should have thought of that before they started calling people “Colorado beetles” and “vatniki”, and shelling their homes, and stuff.

    • kirill says:

      Yats has the boiler plate lie about “dotational”. How can a dotational region account for 25.4% of Ukraine’s total exports in 2013? Oligarch exploitation? You can see from satellite where all the development is in Ukraine. The largest urban agglomeration was in the east, including the Donbas. The agrarian west accounts fro almost no exports and very little GDP. But according to Yats it is not dotational. Lots of credibility from a butcher regime maggot…not.

    • Moscow Exile says:

      Тощие угли

      Lean coals in English: used for power stations and steam locomotives, which were still in use where I used to live right up to the end of the 60s.

      Anthracite is very hard and gives out a great deal of heat. It has a high carbon content and is used in the steel industry to charge coke ovens that supply coke for blast furnaces.

      The gassy coals were used for making town gas and from the gas works retorts you got gas tar which was full of chemical goodies and which gave rise to, amongst other things, the synthetic (aniline) dye industry, which in its turn gave rise to a pharmaceutical products industry – aspirin comes from coal tar – etc.

      See: Coal Tar

    • ucgsblog says:

      “Donbass is a dotational (=subsidized) region, with a negative balance, but nonetheless Ukraine is seriously dependent on (this region) economically.”

      Am I the only one to whom this makes no sense?

      “So, anyway, Yats is saying that all their home-heating and the way their built their furnaces, etc., is based on the supposition that they get these specific brands of coal from Donbass. And now they don’t have their coal anymore, so I guess their heaters don’t work no more. Tough shit. They should have thought of that before they started calling people “Colorado beetles” and “vatniki”, and shelling their homes, and stuff.”

      Or shutting down the Kopanki.

    • marknesop says:

      I feel absolutely no pity for Yatsie, or for anyone who still follows him. You know if the regime had been successful and subdued the east and made it bow down to Kiev’s will, they’d be riding high now; awash in IMF money, and strutting and cocky as you could imagine.

      When I see guys like him, I get just a tingle of sympathetic understanding for the people who say they hate Russia because it has never abased itself before the world and apologized for Stalin, so that the world could have an opportunity to forgive. On the contrary, goes the narrative, Russians are proud of Stalin’s heritage and would happily install a murdering dictator just like him – have done, in fact. Of course that is bullshit, and I don’t think anyone who takes the trouble to inform himself/herself believes Russia longs for Stalin or Russia under him. But I want to see Yatsie stop swaggering about as if everything he has done so far is a success. This government and the kangaroo junta that immediately preceded it have, in all probability, wrecked Ukraine and ensured its slow dismantling and absorption, and Ukrainians themselves will be no more except in memory in a couple of generations. I want to see him admit he is a failure. Because he is, and that is of no use to the world unless he admits it. In his mind, everything he has done is justifiable sacrifice offered up in order to stay on the path to democracy and Yurrup. He’s even lying to himself.

    • Jen says:

      So Arsenick Yatseniuk thinks that all Donetsk and Lugansk are good for is coal, energy, buying things and sucking up pensioner subsidies? Where did he think the bulk of the tax revenues those oblasts sent his government and which paid his fat salary actually came from? What did he think the factories there were doing?

  9. yalensis says:

    And while I am on the topic of COAL, here is this piece .

    PARTIAL TRANSLATION AND SUMMARY
    Headline: Donetsk will warm Crimea with its coal. But not Ukraine.

    We are talking about approximately 60,000 tonnes of coal. This is how much Crimea needs to get through the fall and winter.
    The only way to get this coal (from Donetsk) is via sea – from the port of Novorossiysk [which is on Russian mainland, via ferry to Crimea].
    Currently there are some legal issues involved with this [since “international community” will balk at the very idea].
    However, Winter Is Icumen In, and Crimeans can’t wait for the world legal situation to accept reality. Donetsk Peoples Republic Minister of Energy Alexei Granovsky announced that a deal has been reached between DPR and Crimea. Coal will start to be loaded in just a few days, heading for Crimea.
    Granovsky’s counterpart in Crimea is Minister of Energy Sergei Egorov. He says they are working out a deal to pay a fair price for the DPR coal.
    According to Egorov, the citizens of Crimea need 30,000 tonnes of coal. Another 32,000 tonnes are needed for government agencies. This adds up to a need of 62K tonnes, but this doesn’t include industrial enterprises, we are only talking about everyday needs.
    According to Egorov, Ukrainian companies have stopped delivering coal to the Crimean peninsula, this is why they are in such dire straights. Normally, the coal would be delivered overland, by truck, but this isn’t happening any more. [for some reason]
    The cheapest way to get coal into Crimea, would be by railroad. But Ukraine is not going to permit that. Which leaves only one possible route: By railroad from Donetsk to Novorossiysk, and then by sea [ferry] from Novorossiysk to Crimea.

    Experts make the following calculations:
    The railroad portion of the route goes for 650 km and shipping costs are around $10 American dollars per tonne.
    Then add a cost of $8 to $10 dollars per tonne for the sea portion of the voyage.
    This results in quite a lot of overhead for the combined shipping costs of the Donetsk coal.

    In the broader picture, Crimean President Sergei Aksonov, has already noted that Crimea will not be completely independent, energy-wise, from Ukraine until 2017. So, it still has a couple more years to struggle through, in this regard.

    Returning to the issue of coal, more than 30% of the populated areas of the peninsula are dependent on coal for their seasonal heating. Factor in that 18,140 residents of the peninsula possess government entitlements, which entitle them to free coal for heating (up to 1 tonne annually).

    Currently in Donetsk are operational only 49 of the 74 coal mines.
    Of the 25 non-functioning mines, 17 have been flooded out, and 8 lack power.
    In addition, 11 mines have seen damage to their railroad points, making it impossible for them to transport the coal.

    In summary, in all of Donetsk, only 35 mines actually continue to function and be operational.

    • bolasete says:

      raineth drop and staineth slop… (?)

    • Moscow Exile says:

      Why transport it to Novorossiisk? Rostov-on-Don is much nearer and from there the coal can be taken by ship across the Sea of Azov to Kerch or through the Kerch Strait to Feodosia.

      • Moscow Exile says:

        Or better still, seize Mariupol as soon as the Ukropy start off again and cut the transportation costs even further.

        🙂

      • Moscow Exile says:

        By the way, the map above is somewhat out of date.

      • Jen says:

        Ships might be an easy target for fighter jets to hit if they have to travel near the Russian-Ukrainian border on the Azov Sea. There could be mines and “mystery subs” in the sea as well. At least transporting coal from Donetsk to Novorossiysk by train would be a bit safer and there would be less opportunity for Ukies to try to ambush the train and steal coal because there’d be armed guards on the trains located near each coal truck or every second coal truck.

        • Moscow Exile says:

          The Sea of Azov is very shallow you know. Do you really think that the Ukrainian air force, if indeed such an arm still exists in any real sense, would attack Russian ships in International waters? To do so would be an act of war against Russia.

          • Jen says:

            The status of Crimea is still disputed by Ukraine and if that remains unsettled, then it follows that maritime borders between Russia and Ukraine in the Sea of Azov are not certain either. Also you are assuming that the Ukrainian air force, if it exists at all, is populated and led by reasonable people who have not yet been lustrated by Porkashenko’s regime. There’s also the possibility that joint naval exercises between Ukraine and NATO that include the Sea of Azov could be conducted in a way designed to test and provoke Russian military forces, and an “accident” on a Russian ship carrying coal is something Russia should not risk; even if responsibility for such an incident could be laid at Kyiv’s door-step, the Porcine Prince could always claim Russia was being provocative by deliberately putting one of its ships in harm’s way and the Western media would swallow that as easily as it swallows his other porkies.

    • Moscow Exile says:

      But why has the coal for the Crimea to come from the Don coalfield? There are coalfields in Russia that can send trainloads of coal to Novorossiisk.

      Around the clock every day throughout the year, mile long coal trains hauled by four powerful electric locomotives rumble past my dacha territory on their way west along the main line to Smolensk, Minsk, Warsaw, Berlin and New York Central and thence, by all accounts, to New Hampshire:

      Why Are We Importing This Carbon-Spewing Fuel From Russia?

      On the left, a local commuter train or “elektrichka”; on the right, a coal train.

      • patient observer says:

        The coal train that feeds our power plant usually has about 120 cars with 100 tons each pulled by three diesel locomotives coming from underground mines in Appalachia. Coal also comes by ship from open pit mines in Montana. The coal cars pictured look similar to US designs.

        • patient observer says:

          To be clear, Montana coal is transported by rail to a port on Lake Superior and loaded on large coal carriers (up to 60,000 ton) for destinations in the lower Great Lakes.

        • Moscow Exile says:

          I’ve often thought they were modeled on US design. The gauge in Russia is not “standard”, by the way: it’s 5 foot, thanks to a US railroad engineer, I believe. By the time the first line was built in Russia in 1842 between St.Petersburg and Moscow, engineers realized that a gauge broader than the British 4′ 8.5″ had advantages. There had in fact been a line built in 1837 with a gauge of 6′, but that was the tsar’s “toy railway”, as it were, between his palaces at Tsarckoe Selo and Pavlovsk.

          Here’s a good shot of a coal train next to an express at a station somewhere in Mother Russia:

          I often count the number of cars that pass me when I’m tramping alongside the track out in the sticks where our dacha is. There are always about 80 or so in a train and as you can see in this picture below, the tare is 24.25 short tonnes:

          I reckon 80 or so of those gondola cars would make a train with a length of well over a thousand yards hauling about 2,000 tonnes of coal.

          • Jen says:

            Does a broad railway gauge mean a lower centre of gravity and more stability for train carriages and trucks?

            The US railway engineer who gave Russia its gauge was George Washington Whistler. His second wife, Anna, was the subject of the famous painting “Arrangement in Grey and Black No 1” aka “Whistler’s Mother” by James McNeill Whistler.

            • patient observer says:

              The wider gauge may not necessarily lower the CG but would be more stable from the wider distance between the wheels reducing the tipping moment allowing higher speeds on curves. Also spreading out the load over a wider track bed should allow heavier train cars.

              Russia is considering a nuclear powered locomotive (so did the USSR):
              http://barentsobserver.com/en/sections/society/russia-designs-nuclear-train
              The article was dated 2011 and mentioned a breeder reactor (which seems weird) but otherwise the concept of a steam turbine locomotive is viable if compact condensers can be developed (less of a challenge in cold climates). If the routes are kept out of populated areas and perhaps use of dedicated tracks could address safety concerns.

              I like the idea of LNG diesel locomotives as the next incremental improvement:
              http://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.cfm?id=15831

              • kirill says:

                The reactor sounds like a smaller variant of the lead-bismuth cooled fast neutron design used in the Project 705 Lyre submarines. It does not need to be a “breeder”, but breeder reactors are fast neutron designs.

                If this locomotive gets built it will be a showcase for the safety of these lead-bismuth designs. The heaviest component will be the vat or container. Even of the locomotive derails the reactor will not experience meltdown, it will just freeze solid like in the case of the submarines.

                • patient observer says:

                  That makes sense. Per Wikipedia:
                  – Due to higher coolant temperature, their energy efficiency is up to 1.5 times higher.
                  – Lifetime without refueling can be increased more easily, in part due to higher efficiency.
                  – Liquid lead-bismuth systems can’t cause an explosion and quickly solidify in case of a leak, greatly improving safety.
                  – LCFRs are much lighter and smaller than water-cooled reactors

                  All aboard!

            • Moscow Exile says:

              A broader than the standard gauge meant bigger boilers on a lower centre of gravity steam loco frame giving a much greater tractive effort to haul trains that could carry much greater loads in their considerably bigger than standard gauge rolling stock, hence more efficiency all round.

              The English (French monarchist emigré father, actually) engineer Brunel promoted a broad gauge system of 7 feet, his “Great Western Railway” having such a gauge until the 1890s, when it was converted to standard to put it in line with the gauge of all the other railway companies in the UK.

              Below: Great Western Railway terminus “Temple Meads”, Bristol, England, circa 1843:

          • patient observer says:

            Its hard to tell from the picture but what kind of couplings are used? The US has a more or less hard coupling with little slack while a lot of European freight cars seemed to be coupled by longish chains with bumpers (per Hollywood movies). Wikipedia has a good article:

            “The Russian SA3 coupler works according to the same principles as the AAR coupler but is incompatible.[9] It was introduced during the rebuilding of the railway network in the Soviet Union after the Second World War and has since been used on the whole broad-gauge network, including Finland and Mongolia. It is also used on the standard gauge networks of Iraq and on Malmbanan in Sweden for ore trains.

            Russian trains are rarely longer than about 750 m (2,461 ft)[citation needed] and rarely exceed a maximum tonnage of about 6,000 t (5,900 long tons; 6,600 short tons),[citation needed] so it is not clear what potential load these couplings are capable of. The trains on Malmbanan are about 8,000 t (7,900 long tons; 8,800 short tons).”
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railway_coupling

            • Moscow Exile says:

              Yes, they use an SA3 coupler here.

              I find that Wiki data hard to believe, though, namely that “Russian trains are rarely longer than about 750 m”. (Granted, Wiki editors have added “citation need”.)

              As I have written above, I regularly count the train wagons that pass me and there are always 80-odd of them at a minimum. I usually start going dizzy when I reach 80 or so as I try to continue counting them.

              Eighty odd coal wagons makes up a train longer than 750 m. Perhaps the person who contributed that Wiki posting from which I have quoted above was referring to passenger trains.

              Eighty of those coal “gondola” cars, a photograph of which I have posted earlier, coupled together have a length longer than 750 m. And there are often 4 locos, two pairs in tandem, drawing the loaded coal trains that pass me heading West, as shown below:

              The locomotive class is ВЛ80.

              The “ВЛ” stands for Владимир Ленин (Vladimir Lenin), by the way!

              • Moscow Exile says:

                Click on the picture to have it blown up!

              • Moscow Exile says:

                That coal train standing at a station pictured above certainly looks longer than 750 metres to me!

                Having said that, though, I have to admit that I still think in feet, inches, yards and miles (to say nothing furlongs and chains!) even though I have lived in this hell on earth of a monstrous regime for nearly a quarter of a century. I still constantly convert those kilometres to “real” distances!

                And then there are those bloody litres!

                Give me a pint any day – or a pin, a firkin, a gallon, bushel, a hogshead even!

                🙂

              • patient observer says:

                I believe three (3) GE locomotives pulled the coal trains I was describing. Per Wikipedia, the most powerful GE units are around 4,400 hp each yielding a maximum of 13,200 hp or about 9.8 megawatts. So this gives an upper limit on the total power. What is the rating of the Russian units?

                The terrain is very flat around here and the coals mines likely have a higher elevation relative to here so it could be mostly a down-hill to level run for the trains.

                Also, a wider gauge should allow a wider car resulting in a shorter length and/or higher cargo capacity resulting in a shorter train.

                • Moscow Exile says:

                  The standard freight electric loco here since the 1960s has been the VL80 series.

                  The letters VL stand for Vladimir Lenin, by the way.

                  See: ВЛ80

                  Power output of a VL80 series loco is 4,880 or 6,400 kW (6,540 or 8,580 hp) depending on model.

                  Of course, Russian terrain is pretty well flat almost everywhere: I’ve only once gone through a railway tunnel here, and that was way down south in the foothills of the North Caucasus mountains. Same goes for railway cuttings: not often seen.

                  Hurrah!

                  I’ve just found the English site for VL80. There’s much more info on the Russian site, though.

                  See: VL80

                  Могучий ВЛ80-2100 поднимает пыль

                  A powerful VL80-2100 raises the dust

                  VL80-2100 loaded freight train on the Gorky Railway, Kirov Province, Prosnitsa Station, 29.07.2012

                  When these buggers roll past my dacha territory on the other side of the forest, in a clearing of which our territory is situated, our wooden house tremors slightly. Strange to say, I find this very relaxing in the middle of the night.

                  In the photograph of the territory “Liternaturnaya Gazeta” linked above, the pine forest in question can be seen in the distance and our dacha to the right.

                  The Lada is not mine.

                  I ain’t got no car. Never had one.

                  🙂

                • Moscow Exile says:

                  Put the video on full screen – it looks better!

                  That train is certainly longer than 750 metres, which somebody said in a linked above Wiki article about Russian railways was the maximum length for trains in Russia.

                  You can write what you bloody well want on Wiki!

                  🙂

                • Moscow Exile says:

                  I counted 102 wagons.

                • patient observer says:

                  I liked the video (also counted 102 cars). The train had a very different sound from throbbing diesels engines. I could not tell if they were hopper cars or cars with flat bottoms with rotary couplings allowing the entire car to be rotated as a way to dump the cargo. i wold guess that the train length was close to a mile (1,500 meters).

                  A 6,400 kW motor is pretty awesome. Two units would easily exceed the most powerful locomotive sets in the US including the monstrous “Big Boy” steam locomotives (long retired) which I believe were rated at about 10,000 hp (7,500 Kw).

                  I wonder why the US never generally adopted electrified railroads with electric locomotives as they seem to have a lot of advantages over diesel locomotives. Perhaps the infrastructure was to expensive for any one railroad company to contemplate.

          • marknesop says:

            A same-size Russian car can carry significantly more axle weight owing to the Russian railroad gauge, with its slightly wider stance.

      • Moscow Exile says:

        That’s not an elektrichka: it’s an express! Elektrichki don’t have conductors such as that woman standing in the picture.

  10. yalensis says:

    Here is a bit of cloak and dagger, which I picked up from rusvesna , involving the visit to Zaporozhie of American Embassy Counselor for Public Affairs, Conrad Turner. The authors of the rusvesna piece call this “the visit of the Resident”, i.e., the CIA Resident, a not so subtle innuendo.
    Now, a simple look at any map will show that Zaporozhie is directly between Dnipropetrovsk and Melitopol, and hence will be a big staging area for the next big Ukie offensive against Donetsk, which good money is betting will start on or around October 28 (=this comingTuesday). Hence, rusvesna is insinuating that this nice man, Conrad Turner, is up to no good, even though his visit to Zaporozhie is billed as a cultural event, involving poetry, literature, and the study of foreign languages.

    A quickie research of Mr. Turner’s career shows that he has served as cultural attache in many hotspot Embassies, also in Croatia (2011), where he was the Public Affairs Officer.
    And also in Belgrade (2010), in same capacity, where, as this video shows, he speaks fluent Serbo-Croatian .

    Here is the cloak and dagger bit, involving a poetry recital at the American Embassy in BAGHDAD, in March 2014. For some reason Mr. Turner was serving there, also as cultural attache, even though his specialty seems more Slavic languages than Arabic. As rusvesna points out, Mr. Turner participated in a poetry fest in Baghdad, in which he himself recited a poem by Alexander Pushkin! (it was not stated which of Pushkin poems he recited)

    Here is the link to that strange story of Mr. Turner’s poetry recital in Baghdad, from March 2014. The link used to include a video, which was subsequently deleted. As far as I know, the video no longer exists, it is noted on it: “This video is private.”

    Which leads me (being a very suspicious type) to suspect that something in the video, maybe the selection of the poem, was a give-away. Like, maybe it was code. Is it an accident that this was just a couple of months before ISIS attacked Mosul? I think not. Maybe Mr. Turner was giving the signal to the jihadists that it was almost time to attack, same as he (might) be doing in Zaporozhie, giving signal to Ukies that it is almost time to attack Donetsk.

    Here is more evidence for this theory:
    Originally Turner’s poetry recital was published on youtube, along with 3 other recitals which occurred at the same event, in Baghdad. This link on youtube is entitled “One of FOUR videos celebrating international poetry during the visit to Iraq of poets from the University of Iowa’s Writers’ Workshop, and yet the video only features THREE videos, omitting Turner’s recital of the Pushkin poem.

    The other 3 videos included are those of American poets Christopher Merrill (reciting Robert Frost), and Tom Sleigh (reciting Gilgamesh), and a guy named Hyun Sim, reciting some Arabic poetry.

    It is possible that these 3 poets might also be speaking in code. Merrill, for example, is American representative to UNESCO, as his wiki entry shows, and his Alma Mater is Middlebury College, which everyone knows is a hotbed of CIA recruitment.
    In his Baghdad gig, Merrill recites a poem by Robert Frost, but he could well be speaking in code:


    The way a crow
    Shook down on me
    The dust of snow
    From a hemlock tree

    Has given my heart
    A change of mood
    And saved some part
    Of a day I had rued.

    The other American poet, Sleigh, recites some Gilgamesh lamentation at the utter destruction of the city of Ur (back in Bronze Age times). And Ur is in what is now modern Iraq.

    In conclusion, Conrad Turner’s visit to Zaporozhie is probably a bad omen, just like the crow and the hemlock tree. Expect Ukrainian invasion of Donetsk to begin any day now!

    • yalensis says:

      For some reason link to Belgrade video didn’t show, here it is again:

    • yalensis says:

      P.P.S. – when I listened to the video of Merrill’s poetry recital, I didn’t quite get his accent at first, and I thought he had said:

      The way a crow
      Shit down on me (….)

      so googled the poem to get the correct text.
      I like the other version better, though.

    • marknesop says:

      Turner is summoning jihadists by speaking in Russian?

      • yalensis says:

        No, they probably translated the poem into Arabic.

        • marknesop says:

          That pays you back for the pooch-screwing Google thing.

          • yalensis says:

            I’m still seething with resentment about that.
            It hurt my feelings that you could even think I am capable of lying.
            About anything!

            • yalensis says:

              P.S. – in my vast research I still have not been able to find which Pushkin poem Turner actually recited in Baghdad. It could have been this one from 1835, entitled “Imitating an Arabic”


              Подражание арабскому

              Отрок милый, отрок нежный,
              Не стыдись, навек ты мой;
              Тот же в нас огонь мятежный,
              Жизнью мы живем одной.
              Не боюся я насмешек:
              Мы сдвоились меж собой,
              Мы точь в точь двойной орешек
              Под единой скорлупой.

              Above poem is sort of subversive, and also sort of gay.
              Or, it could have been one of Pushkin’s series of Chechen or Caucasian poems.

              What I am guessing it was NOT is Pushkin’s КЛЕВЕТНИКАМ РОССИИ poem.

              • Moscow Exile says:

                He might have been making a connection between Pushkin and his hosts by reminding the latter that Alexander Pushkin’s great-granddaddy’s name was Ibrahim.

                Talking of which, Pushkin’s daughter Natalya is an ancestor of Prince Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh, husband of Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom and head of state of some other places as well … which means that the next monarch of the UK will have “a touch of the tar-brush” in him, as they used to say so-delightfully not all that long ago.

                🙂

                • Jen says:

                  Actually Prince Philip himself is not descended from Alexander Pushkin but several of his cousins are.
                  http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/secret/famous/pushkingenealogy.html

                  Incidentally the article goes on to say that Ibrahim Gannibal was a member of the royal family of Ethiopia and could claim descent from a son of King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba. Gannibal’s origins are actually unknown and he has been claimed by Cameroon as a son of theirs as well. Whatever, it is likely that Gannibal was the son of a chief at least and had some claim to “noble” birth since it was usual in many societies across the world for high-born children to be traded as hostages in payment of a debt or obligation to an enemy or another state. Rulers could demand child hostages to be stationed with their families to ensure retainers’ loyalties. Although how Gannibal ended up being horse-traded to the Ottomans and landing in the slave market in Istanbul, I’m not really sure on that.

                • Moscow Exile says:

                  I stand corrected.

                  Putin’s daughter Natalya – Putin’s granddaughter Sophie – Putin’s great-granddaughter Nadezhda, the aunt of Prince Philip and great-great-great-great-great-granddaughter of Ibrahim Ganniball.

                  See: Pushkin geneaology

                  Anyway, the last real king of England, Michael Abney-Hastings, 14th Earl of Loudoun, lived in Australia – and he was a republican!

                  See: Britain’s Real Monarch

                  King Michael I of England died 2 years ago:

                  ‘Rightful king of England’ dies in Australia

                  King Michael’s son seems reluctant to accept the crown:

                  Simon Abney-Hastings, the 15th Earl of Loudon, is a 37-year-old bachelor who works for a fabrics company in the town of Wangaratta, about 140 miles from Melbourne. He said he was aware he was “possibly” the rightful king but would prefer not to take the throne.

                  “I have always known about this – I have lived it”, he said. “It does make you think about how things could be different. I am quite happy with how things have turned out. I have made my own life”.

                  I’ll have it, if he doesn’t want it!

                  Wonder how much I could weigh it in for?

                  The last real king of England and the English, by the way, was Harold Godwinson, who died in 1066 alongside his houseeorls at the shield-wall. His wife and children fled to Sweden.

                  One his daughters, Gytha of Wessex, married Vladimir II (Monomach) of Kiev and was possibly the mother of Yuri Dolgorukiy, founder of Moscow and Grand Prince of Kiev.

                  No Banderastan then, by the way, though Ukropy reckon there existed at this time this mythical land of mammoths called Kievan Rus.

            • yalensis says:

              So here, once again, ladies and gentlemen, is Pushkin’s “To the Slanderers of Russia”, along with (approximate) English translation:

              КЛЕВЕТНИКАМ РОССИИ.

              О чем шумите вы, народные витии?
              Зачем анафемой грозите вы России?
              Что возмутило вас? волнения Литвы?
              Оставьте: это спор славян между собою,
              Домашний, старый спор, уж взвешенный судьбою,
              Вопрос, которого не разрешите вы.
              Уже давно между собою
              Враждуют эти племена;
              Не раз клонилась под грозою
              То их, то наша сторона.
              Кто устоит в неравном споре:
              Кичливый лях, иль верный росс?
              Славянские ль ручьи сольются в русском море?
              Оно ль иссякнет? вот вопрос.
              Оставьте нас: вы не читали
              Сии кровавые скрижали;
              Вам непонятна, вам чужда
              Сия семейная вражда;
              Для вас безмолвны Кремль и Прага;
              Бессмысленно прельщает вас
              Борьбы отчаянной отвага —
              И ненавидите вы нас…
              За что ж? ответствуйте: за то ли,
              Что на развалинах пылающей Москвы
              Мы не признали наглой воли
              Того, под кем дрожали вы?
              За то ль, что в бездну повалили
              Мы тяготеющий над царствами кумир
              И нашей кровью искупили
              Европы вольность, честь и мир?….

              Вы грозны на словах — попробуйте на деле!
              Иль старый богатырь, покойный на постеле,
              Не в силах завинтить свой измаильский штык?
              Иль русского царя уже бессильно слово?
              Иль нам с Европой спорить ново?
              Иль русской от побед отвык?
              Иль мало нас? Или от Перми до Тавриды,
              От финских хладных скал до пламенной Колхиды,
              От потрясенного Кремля
              До стен недвижного Китая,
              Стальной щетиною сверкая,
              Не встанет русская земля?…
              Так высылайте ж нам, витии,
              Своих озлобленных сынов:
              Есть место им в полях России,
              Среди нечуждых им гробов.

              (APPROXIMATE) ENGLISH TRANSLATION:
              What are you yapping about, you Western propaganda shills?
              Why are you threatening Russia with sanctions?
              What got your goat? Let me guess – the Lithuanians?
              Buzz off. This is an inter-Slav conflict.
              An old, domestic conflict, gone down in the annals of history,
              A conflict into which your nose you shold not poke!
              (etc.)

              • marknesop says:

                I love this piece, and rank it one of his lyrical best – here’s the full English translation, and I am filled with admiration for translators who manage to preserve the meter in English as well. My favorite line seems now almost prescient: “Ye’re bold of tongue, but hark; would ye in deed but try it”.

                That sums up the position of western leaders – all mouth and no trousers. It is a great pity Ukraine would not be warned by those who knew this, and had a pretty good idea that it would turn out more or less as it has. Decades of paying for their folly loom ahead.

            • marknesop says:

              Well, is “lying” really the correct word? It depends on the context in which “is” is used.

  11. Moscow Exile says:

    «Die ukrainische Armee gibt es faktisch nicht mehr»

    Interview Der Ukraine-Experte Frank Golczewski kritisiert Kiew dafür, dass es radikale Nationalisten an die Front im Osten geschickt hat.

    The Ukrainian Army No Longer Factually Exists

    Interview The Ukraine expert Frank Golczewski criticizes Kiev for having sent radical nationalists to the front

    “The army has scrap value”: Ukrainian soldiers at a Checkpoint in Slavyanoserbsk. (10. September 2014) Image: Reuters

    On Sunday there will be elections in the Ukraine. Are the reforms and democratization that the people on the Maidan demanded to be expected?

    If the elections go ahead without any problems, the new leadership will then be legitimized. So far, only President Poroshenko has been elected by the people.

    He should win the parliamentary elections. But the second-strongest force today is Oleh Lyashko’s radical party, which is touting extremist Slogans.

    He has insane demands: He wants to fight Russia. He has accused Poroshenko of having surrendered to the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, over the Minsk agreement, which has brought about a cease-fire. With the various irregular associations, the Volunteer Battalions,he wants to continued to oppose the separatist struggle. Whether this is a realistic option interests him not at all.

    What do Ukrainians have in mind as regards this?

    I am wondering about this as well. However, radical talk in the Ukraine is clearly audible. The party has only in this present year emerged from a totally unimportant grouping and now represents virtually all of the radical Maidan. There is in the Ukraine, of course, a very strong polarization between those who follow a pro-Russian line and those that think an extremely violent and radical approach must be taken towards these pro-Russian forces. Oleh Lyashko could very well take advantage of this situation. He has even overtaken the nationalist Svoboda party in the polls.

    What kind of Ukraine does he have in mind?

    I just cannot imagine. It would be a state that is extremely nationalist, radical and militant.

    Lyashko already sees himself as a kingmaker. Is a coalition between Poroshenko and him really conceivable?

    At the beginning it looked as if there would only be these two parties in the Rada. Recent surveys show that there are other parties that have passed the 5-percent hurdle. I can hardly imagine such a coalition happening. A negotiated settlement between the South and the East would then be out of the question. Poroshenko and Klitschko are willing to compromise. But already with Prime Minister Yatsenyuk I am not so sure anymore. He looks like the branch manager of a savings bank branch and compensates for this by wildly shouting his mouth off. He has talked of a third world war, of the construction of a wall around the Ukraine.

    Lyashko is also the political face of the notorious Azov battalion. What is the significance of this?

    The Azov battalion has on its banner the Wolfsangel symbol, the former party badge of the Social-Nationalists, from which party Svoboda was born. If you turn this party name around, then you get National- Social, namely “Nationalsozialistisch”. [Nazi] This is a neo-Nazi group. In the Azov battalion are representatives of the Right Sector, the “Ukraine Patriots” and other extremely right-wing, militant volunteers. They are, in part, the descendants of the militaristic sports clubs that used to exist in West Ukraine. In interviews these people present themselves as being extremely militant.They say, for example, that they want to march to Moscow. They are out of their minds: to continue their fight is completely unrealistic, because then Moscow would enter the game and equip the separatists. And Russia is militarily the stronger.

    [Note how this seems to suggest that Golczewski seems not to think that as of yet Moscow is “in the game”, at least not fully – Moscow Exile]

    There are said to be over 30 such volunteer battalions. Are they all so extremist?

    The Azov battalion is the best known because its members loudly express themselves. The others are hanging around somewhere, but nobody knows exactly how many there are of them: there could be 20 or even 40 more of them. The volunteer battalions are irregular associations, as are the separatists whom they face. Basically, this is a civil war that is going on out there. The front line is unclear. Maps of the area appear as a confusing patchwork. There you have on one side of the line a village and the other a hill. The regular Ukrainian army does not play a leading role in this. This is problematic also in terms of decision making: where irregular associations dominate, no well thought out decisions can take place.

    Who pays these volunteers?

    It is clear that some of these irregular groups are paid by the oligarchs. The multimillionaire Igor Kolomoisky has financed a private troop; Poroshenko also originally had one. But the radicals do not disclose the sources of their funds. Whether money comes from Ukrainians living abroad or possibly from the state itself or from other states, nobody knows. There is talk that the USA provides finance, but these are just rumours that are also spread with the aim of defaming individual associations.

    And where does the government stand in this matter?

    The state is hardly present in the East. It has, of course, sent the army there, but the army has only scrap value. Poroshenko has said that 65 percent of the war materiel that was sent there has been destroyed. Thus, the Ukrainian army is factually no more.

    The army and volunteer battalions are fighting for the return of Ukrainian territories in the East. What do the East Ukrainians think of of these volunteers?

    It has not been a very intelligent move to send radical Ukrainian nationalists from the West of the country to the East. This has confirmed all the prejudices that were already in place on the Russian side. Take the Azov battalion: it confirms all the stereotypes of a fascist junta in Kiev, just as Moscow had said it was. Moderate politicians such as President Poroshenko or the boxing champion Vitali Klitschko do not conform to these stereotypes. They are, however, not there in the east. At the beginning of the conflict the Eastern Ukraine was by no means convinced that the West of the country was bad or even fascist: today the East believes this more and more.

    Are the announcements true that serious war crimes have been committed by the Ukrainian side??

    Not only the volunteers, but even the regular Ukrainian armed forces and the national guard have acted with extreme violence against the civilian population. In the last few days, there have been reports from the pro-Russian side of mass graves, that Ukrainian associations had tortured and killed people. In the meantime, it looks as if these killings have not taken place. You have graves with one or two victims found in them, and no one knows which side has done the killing. But that does not matter: The mass graves have been reported in the local media and they are now considered as fact. The fact that such messages have appeared shortly before the election suggests that this is a propaganda exercise intended to keep people from voting for certain parties.Who wants to be on the side of murderers?

    Many fighters from the volunteer battalions are now running for parliament. One of them, Semen Sementshchenko, appears in public masked. How can such people take part in politics?

    They want to show their supporters that they exercise power and are able not only to fight. In the Kiev rada there do not sit politicians who discuss policies with each other. Every few weeks fighting breaks out there. This is not a political class, as we know it in Western Europe. On the one hand, some go into parliament in order to acquire parliamentary immunity from prosecution; on the other hand, others go there to do business, to get backhanders.

    Also running for parliament are Maidan activists who protested against corruption. What chance do they have?

    After the question of whether to side with Europe, corruption was one of the most important topics on the Maidan. But the fight against corruption is difficult. For us in the West, corruption is something very evil. But if corruption is as widespread as it is in the Ukraine, where nothing can get done without bribery, then nearly everybody is in on it. An example: If you are at university and wish to pass an exam, then you have to give your examiner some nice present. The teachers, for their part, need to be in favour with the deans, and the deans with the university administration. Such a system is almost impossible to break out of.

    So a student can sometimes get a bad mark just because he cannot afford to pay a bribe?

    Right. The stupid ones are those without money.

    Because of the Ukraine, the West has imposed a number of sanctions against Russia. How can the West contribute towards reconciliation and democracy in the Ukraine?

    With a huge amount of money. The Ukraine is bankrupt: the country has been run into the ground by its politicians. The hope that Europe gave them was the hope that there would be somebody there who would bring order. In the Ukraine, no one has ever had the idea that this order should first of all be brought about by themselves. I do not believe that Europe can do a great deal, apart from ensuring that the Ukraine pay its gas bills and make it through to the next day.

    (Tages-Anzeiger is a Swiss newspaper)

    [What a load of dog’s bollocks! Everyone knows that the whole shitty scenario has been planned from the Kremlin and now Putin is throwing the East Ukrainians under the bus.]

  12. ThatJ says:

    “Whatever We Decide Is A Disaster For Us” France Admits Putin Is Winning, Europe “Blinked”

    While the analogy of Vladimir Putin playing geopolitical chess (while the rest of the world plays checkers) has been a popular one, the French ambassador Gerard Araud has a different – somewhat stunningly honest – persepctive: Putin “is more a poker player really, putting all the money on the table; saying, ‘Do the same’ and of course we blink. We don’t do the same.” As Bloomberg reports, Araud goes on to express entirely un-Juncker-like, how Putin has outmaneuvered his opponents and humiliated Ukraine. Simply put, he adds, the Russian president “has won because we were not ready to die for Ukraine, while apparently he was,” leaving the ominous question, “when is Putin going to stop? Whatever we decide is a disaster for us.”

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-25/whatever-we-decide-disaster-us-france-admits-putin-winning-europe-blinked

    Saturday Humor: How Social Media Reacted To The Queen’s First Tweet

    The Queen unleashed her first tweet on Friday from the official account of the British Monarchy, explaining her pleasure at opening a new exhibit at The Science Museum…

    The news media were exultant and instantly went to Social Media for their reaction… Unfortunately for The BBC, they live broadcast a less-than-BBC-esque remark from one @WolfgangDikface…

    The account has since been removed/disabled.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-25/saturday-humor-how-social-media-reacted-queens-first-tweet

    • yalensis says:

      Why did they have to close the account? Dikface’s comment was the most intelligent one on the site.

    • marknesop says:

      When is Putin going to stop? Over here, please – I am tired of hearing that, so I am just going to relieve Putin’s official spokesman of his command, and assume that office myself for the moment.

      Mr. Putin will “stop” – if by that you mean stop embarrassing other world leaders with their own incompetence and childish nursery behavior – when the western democracies grant him the respect that is his due as the more-than-capable democratically-elected leader of the world’s largest country (nearly twice the size of the USA), cease propagating booga-booga myths about him that he is some kind of monster, quit attributing ridiculous crimes such as the murders of Anna Politkovskaya and Alexander Litvinenko to him personally when there is not the slightest bit of evidence linking him to either and desist from attacks both rhetorical and actual against the people and economy of his country. It is clear you all know how to mind your own fucking business from your whistling disregard of the Moloch you have unleashed in Ukraine. If you can’t say anything nice, keep your piehole shut.

      Oh, and France, you brought every bit of your current angst on yourself, by saying “Oui, Oncle Sam” when you should have said “Non, emphatiquement; etes-vous fou?” Suck it up, princesses – don’t make out like you didn’t have a choice.

      Mr. Putin will entertain apologies on a case-by-case basis. Each apologist must bring John Kerry along, as each apology must be accompanied by kicking Mr. Kerry in the nuts.

      • Kulobi says:

        Freedom House has been trying to stop infernal Putin for years now. And what does it get by way of gratitude? Another punch in the snout, this time from Andrei Tsygankov.
        http://online.sfsu.edu/andrei/Research/ES%20Securitization%20of%20Democracy%20Pre-press%20Apr14.docx
        This is an early version of his piece that was just published by the European Security journal.
        Here’s a teaser:
        “What is promoted by FH as an objective system of rating democracy reflects foreign policy priorities of certain groups within the American establishment. Among these groups, security elites with neoconservative convictions stand out.”
        Tsygankov is clinical in his deconstruction of Woolsey & Brzezinski Inc. A jolly good read.

        In the meantime, bleedin’ heart libertarians in sunny Queensland are very worried that their photographs at G20 will end up with the KGB: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-26/concern-spy-services-could-use-photos-of-brisbane-residents/5842446.
        They probably still believe Manning Clark got the Order of Lenin and the Comintern is plotting a takeover of Wagga Wagga.

        • Moscow Exile says:

          You mean … it isn’t!

          Comintern sees no strategic necessity to form cells in Wagga Wagga?

          Strewth!

          🙂

          • davidt says:

            Wagga is not a bad place and Terry O’Gorman is a decent guy, though he is chasing a headline here (afterall there are photographs of him everywhere if the Russian spooks are interested). The concern is why does he hold such a negative view of Russia. The answer is simple- he gets his news from the Australian mainstream media.(The main daily paper in Brisbane is Murdoch owned.) I sometimes think that people that comment here need regularly remind themselves that most hold their views for precisely that sort of reason- not because they are not lazy or stupid.
            Up to a few years ago, my neighbor was a very senior Murdoch executive, who was brought up in Wagga, as it happens- I just checked his Wikipedia entry. (He now has a problem in New York.) His house displayed photographs of his family posing with Bill Clinton, and the one evening I visited, he was hosting the NSW premier of the day, Bob Carr, who became Australia’s last foreign minister. This reflects the problem everywhere. The politicians and the media live in one another’s pockets, and represent the same interests.
            Got to get to the BBQ.

            • Moscow Exile says:

              Yeah, I just checked out Wagga Wagga on Wiki: looks a pleasant enough place to settle – with, for me in any case, one major exception: it’s too bloody hot!

              Here’s a picture of some Wagga Wagga residents showing their arses to the Queen:

              🙂

              • Southerncross says:

                No virgin wool in this picture.

              • Moscow Exile says:

                It reminds of that place in the film about that piglet that became a sheepdog or “sheep-pig” or whatever. It was shot in NSW or South Australia, I think.

                The film, I mean, not the pig.

                “Babe” – that’s what it was called!

                • davidt says:

                  Sorry, ME, I couldn’t view your photograph, but “Babe” was filmed near Bowral, NSW, where Don Bradman started his career. A quick check on Wikipedia will assure you that Australian country towns are generally known by their sporting heroes but there is a story I can relate that is prompted by “Babe”. The lead actress in it, and prominent in your clip, is Magda Szubandzi who is a well known lesbian- no problem with that. On principle I rarely watch the ABC, the Australian derivative of the BBC, however I did watch a popular, “serious political” program just after a year ago on which she was a panelist. The St Petersburg G20 came up, or at least she brought it up, and went off her brain about Putin. No one made any attempt to put the so called homosexual propaganda law into any context. They wouldn’t be able to in any case. The gay and lesbian community worldwide hate Putin because of the propaganda campaign the US ran last year. Even today I had an email from a gay ex-colleague who saw both Russia and Ukraine as the pits, so he was not interested in any discussion regarding Russia. He knows what Russia is like. Sometimes I wonder how people would react if a propaganda campaign was run that demonized the US since it was unwilling to control opium production in Afghanistan. (Remember that in the last year of the Taliban’s rule no poppy was grown.) As a consequence of this, probably 30 to 50 thousand Russians die annually from heroin abuse.
                  PS Wagga has produced some great league players, and the birdlife fascinates many Pommies. (But I agree it would be an acquired taste, even for me.)

                • Moscow Exile says:

                  To davidt:

                  As regards the film “Babe” I first saw it in 2007 on a video at my sister’s in the UK during one of my rare visits to “The Old Country”. I had previously been there in 2000. Shortly after my arrival at my sister’s, she said to me, “You just have to watch this film! It’ll surprise you”.

                  So I did. The surprise was that the actor that plays Farmer Hogget, Californian James Cromwell, looks remarkably like my father and Hogget’s mannerisms in the film are just like his.

                  He was quite a taciturn sort of bloke was my father. I think it was because his experiences in WWII had upset him.

                  As regards Bowral, you would swear it was situated on the South Downs in England, judging by this picture of Bowral railway station that I have just found on the Internet:

                • Jen says:

                  @ Davidt: If that popular “serious political” program was the banal Q&A that the smug-looking Tony Jones hosts, I believe the audience is vetted in advance: people either have to apply to be part of the audience or are invited to apply, and part of being accepted includes having to answer questions that ask, among other things, for your political affiliations. My current workplace has received invitations in the past from Q&A for staff to join the studio audience. There was an episode of Q&A in which Richard Dawkins was pitted against local Vatican cardinal fruitcake George Pell, and to me it seemed that two-thirds of the people who showed up were students bussed in from the Catholic University just down the road from ABC studios in Ultimo.

                  BTW the actor’s name is spelt Magda Szubanski. Her father worked for the Polish resistance during World War 2 as a hit-man targeting Nazi soldiers.
                  http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2010/11/family-secrets-leave-magda-in-tears.html

                  @ ME: Bowral is in a hilly area called the Southern Highlands and is almost exactly halfway between Sydney and Canberra. The region gets cool enough in winter for occasional overnight frost and snow and in the past was a playground for gentry from Sydney which explains the presence of English-style manor houses, many historic buildings, large gardens and the railway station’s surrounds. It’s becoming part of the Sydney commuter belt; a cousin of mine and her ex-husband used to own a house in Berrima (not far from Bowral) and they commuted to Sydney for business reasons. Usually about this time of year (October), Bowral has its Tulip Festival.

        • yalensis says:

          From above linked piece:
          “[Russian president Vladimir] Putin is one of the most unattractive world leaders, as is the Chinese premier …

          Well, to be sure, they are not expected to win the “Beauty” portion of the pageant, but they are still expected to rack up points for the “Talent” portion, as well as the essay portion on “How I would bring about world peace.”

        • marknesop says:

          Australia is emerging as the most Russophobic voice of the west, with its dithering about Russia and China’s human-rights record as if all of its patron partners had stellar records in the same department, and its non-stop abuse of Putin. I’m beginning to think no worse place could have been chosen for the G-20 summit. Still, I had to laugh at the “17 Things That Are Banned In Central Brisbane During The G-20 Summit”. Some are obvious, although the Aussie security authorities seem particularly twitchy about longbows, mentioning them several times. But I loved item 11: “Non-weapons That could Hurt Someone”. Definition, “”A thing that is not a weapon but is capable of being used to cause harm to a person.”

          I guess people will be going about in central Brisbane in hospital johnnies and wearing those paper slippers – good thing it’s warm, and I hope it doesn’t rain. Ever had anyone hit you in the face with a boot?

  13. yalensis says:

    Motorola and Givi trash-talking to their Ukie opponents at Donetsk Airport:

  14. yalensis says:

    And more kidding around with the Motorola/Givi comedy duo. (I got these great videos from militaryphotos .net. Givi claims to be a “younger” Gruzian version of Sylvester Stallone.

  15. yalensis says:

    P.S. – Motorola says his favorite actor is Denzel Washington . Whose isn’t?

  16. davidt says:

    This might be interesting. According to a comment on the Moon of Alabama blog the International Business Times, Australian edition, is carrying a matter-of-fact account of eyewitnesses seeing a jet near the Boeing MH17. If you Google “international business times MH17” then you get the obvious link. If you click on this link, then up comes a 404 error message. Perhaps someone has pulled the article?

    • marknesop says:

      Yes, it didn’t last long; posted only 13 hours ago, and I don’t know how long ago it was yanked. The fragment of the title is certainly tantalizing – “Pilot Was Targeted Right In The…” and nothing.

      The funny thing is, IB Times is kind of a flaky source which often posts conspiracy theories. In fact, it posted earlier the popular (in some circles) theory that MH-17 is actually the vanished MH-370, spirited away by the CIA for later use in a false-flag operation. Stranger things have happened, but I’m afraid i don’t put too much credence in that one.

      What’s funny about it, though, is that one was allowed to stand untouched. Which sort of looks like whatever was in the more recent update may have violated the non-disclosure pact to which Australia is a signatory. Not even a cached version left.

    • yalensis says:

      The “pilot targeted in the stomach” thing comes from the RT film/expose.
      I am guessing the Australian reporter must have picked up on that, and tried to slip it past his editor. Editor must have received a frantic phone call from government bigwig, and pulled the article.

      Here is RT piece again.
      “Shot in the stomach” bit occurs at 9:00 minutes in, when the expert is examining photos of the wreckage of the cockpit, and concludes that the pilot was targeted first.

      • marknesop says:

        Fascinating. Of course it presents a different view from that being peddled by the mainstream media, but the similarity of the damage caused by the Russian experiment using the 30mm gun and the visuals of the cockpit surround of MH-17 is eerie. For me, the convincer is the near-absence of any other similar damage to any of the other large fragments of the plane. I don’t recall seeing any shots of the tail, which analysts theorize was blown off, perhaps in another explosion, and that’s where the voice recorders are actually located, not near the cockpit at all. There is no way the warhead of an SA-11 missile would shred the cockpit and leave the rest of the plane undamaged except where it tore apart. The pattern of holes around the cockpit is typical of a directed, aimed weapon, all of whose projectiles came from the same direction.

  17. davidt says:

    OK, it is probably here, though when I click on the video I get the big exclamation mark:
    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/mh17-untold-story-putins-russia-today-documentary-blames-military-aircraft-downing-1471214

    • marknesop says:

      I don’t think so – that’s another phone-it-in “We may never know what happened” piece which is preparing the ground for the eventual “inconclusive, nothing to see here” final report from the Dutch, in which they will cover up what really happened for the greater good.

      • davidt says:

        I’m still quite surprised, given that its text quotes eyewitnesses. The paper is only online and is owned by IBT Media, whose other publication is Newsweek. Yes, I am surprised.

  18. Moscow Exile says:

    Hackers have successfully managed to show disturbing images of civilian deaths on electronic billboards in Kiev whilst elections are in progress there:

    In the video uploaded by the hackers are pictures of Yukie “politicians” with the label “war criminal” attached.

  19. Moscow Exile says:

    In the magnificent Russian tongue, the best by far poetic knock back to the West is this:

    • yalensis says:

      I can only imagine being the schoolteacher, with such a precocious child in my class.
      That girl is downright scary!

    • Moscow Exile says:

      The Scythians

      You are but millions. Our unnumbered nations
      Are as the sands upon the sounding shore.
      We are the Scythians! We are slit-eyed Asians!
      Try to wage war with us—you will try no more!

      You have had whole centuries. We—a single hour.
      Like serfs obedient to their feudal lord,
      We have held the shield between two hostile powers—
      Old Europe and the barbarous Mongol horde.

      Your ancient forge has hammered down the ages,
      Drowning the distant avalanche’s roar.
      Messina, Lisbon—these, you thought, were pages
      In some strange book of legendary lore.

      Full centuries long you have watched our Eastern lands,
      Fished for our pearls and bartered them for grain;
      Made mockery of us, while you laid your plans
      And oiled your cannon for the great campaign.

      The hour has come. Doom wheels on beating wing.
      Each day augments the old outrageous score.
      Soon not a trace of dead nor living thing
      Shall stand where once your Paestums flowered before.

      O Ancient World, before your culture dies,
      Whilst failing life within you breathes and sinks,
      Pause and be wise, as Oedipus was wise,
      And solve the age-old riddle of the Sphinx.

      That Sphinx is Russia. Grieving and exulting,
      And weeping black and bloody tears enough,
      She stares at you, adoring and insulting,
      With love that turns to hate, and hate—to love.

      Yes, love! For you of Western lands and birth
      No longer know the love our blood enjoys.
      You have forgotten there’s a love on Earth
      That burns like fire and, like all fire, destroys.

      We love cold Science passionately pursued;
      The visionary fire of inspiration;
      The salt of Gallic wit, so subtly shrewd,
      And the grim genius of the German nation.

      We know the hell of a Parisian street,
      And Venice, cool in water and in stone;
      The scent of lemons in the southern heat;
      The fuming piles of soot-begrimed Cologne.

      We love raw flesh, its colour and its stench.
      We love to taste it in our hungry maws.
      Are we to blame then, if your ribs should crunch,
      Fragile between our massive, gentle paws?

      We know just how to play the cruel game
      Of breaking in the most rebellious steeds;
      And stubborn captive maids we also tame
      And subjugate, to gratify our needs…

      Come join us, then! Leave war and war’s alarms,
      And grasp the hand of peace and amity.
      While still there’s time, Comrades, lay down your arms!
      Let us unite in true fraternity!

      But if you spurn us, then we shall not mourn.
      We too can reckon perfidy no crime,
      And countless generations yet unborn
      Shall curse your memory till the end of time.

      We shall abandon Europe and her charm.
      We shall resort to Scythian craft and guile.
      Swift to the woods and forests we shall swarm,
      And then look back, and smile our slit-eyed smile.

      Away to the Urals, all! Quick, leave the land,
      And clear the field for trial by blood and sword,
      Where steel machines that have no soul must stand
      And face the fury of the Mongol horde.

      But we ourselves, henceforth, we shall not serve
      As henchmen holding up the trusty shield.
      We shall keep our distance and, slit-eyed, observe
      The deadly conflict raging on the field.

      We shall not stir, even though the frenzied Huns
      Plunder the corpses of the slain in battle, drive
      Their cattle into shrines, burn cities down,
      And roast their white-skinned fellow men alive.

      O ancient World, arise! For the last time
      We call you to the ritual feast and fire
      Of peace and brotherhood! For the last time
      O hear the summons of the barbarian lyre!

      A. A. Blok, 30 January 1918

      ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………

      • Max says:

        “We know just how to play the cruel game
        Of breaking in the most rebellious steeds;
        And stubborn captive maids we also tame
        And subjugate, to gratify our needs…”

        I’m sorry, the spheres do not align. I like the smooth flesh of young ladies too, but a man wrote this. A man should have recited it.

        • Moscow Exile says:

          But in the film she’s a teacher giving the class an example of Blok’s work.

          What about Lilli Marleen?

          Why’s Lale Anderson singing about meeting Lille at the barrack gate?

          • Moscow Exile says:

            Your lips reach up to me as though in a dream….“????

            Now just cut that out!

            Do you hear me?

            At once, I say!

            🙂

          • yalensis says:

            So, she’s the schoolteacher? I thought she was just a precocious student in the class, reciting a poem for lit class.
            But if she’s the teacher, then who is that man watching her?
            (Sorry, I never saw this movie.)

            • yalensis says:

              (I’m confused.)

            • Jen says:

              Looks like an adult education class, the students must be miners and factory workers.

              Must be something of a novelty seeing tough-bitten working-class people attending poetry classes given by young fresh-out-of-college teachers for those living in the Land of the Free, Home of the Brave where more usually the tough-bitten (un)working-class people attend NASCAR races and macho-Jesus gun rallies?
              🙂

              • Moscow Exile says:

                The film is the 1969 two-part “By the Lake” directed by by Sergei Gerasimov, starring Natalya Belokhvostikova as Lena Barmina.

                Synopsis:
                Lena lives with her scientist father by Lake Baikal. They have lived there together her whole life and they are very close. But, a new factory is being built nearby and they fear for the lake ecology. Vasily Shuckshin plays a worker at the factory who also fears the results of pollution but feels powerless at first to stop it.

                The film has some themes concerning the role of communism. Lena says to Shuckshin “Communism is beauty and purity, do you at least agree with that”, to which he says he does, though he later states that it is not as simple as that. There is a scene where Lena recites the Blok poem in a library that is made up of books her ancestors have built up.

                There are many great scenes of natural beauty in the film and Lena’s thoughts run throughout as regards her concern about mankind, progress and the environment.

                The film is really about the Lena’s life and secondarily about the problem of Lake Baikal.

                Many in the West always portray Russians as not giving a monkey’s about the environment, but this film made almost half a century ago illustrates that this is not quite the case.

  20. yalensis says:

    King Pork-Shanks arrives in occupied Kramatorsk to oversee the voting.
    Note in second photo down. Porky is surrounded by a circle of gun-toting thugs while he pretends to be nice guy with kids.
    Little girl looks like she is trying to shoo away the monster by shaking her little purse at it.
    Children are not stupid, she can tell that his smile is fake.

    • Moscow Exile says:

      Why is the pig wearing camouflage gear?

      [By the way, for those who may not know any Russian, calling Poroshenko “Porky” is quite appropriate, because in Russian “porosyonok” (поросёнок – pronounced sort of like “parasyonek” with the stress on -yo-), meaning “piglet”, is declined in the genitive singular thus: “porosyonka” (поросёнка = “of the piglet” and pronounced kind of like “parasyonka”), which sounds a bit like Poroshenko (pronounced something like “parashenka”). It would be much better to use phonetic symbols in order to give a clearer idea of the pronunciation, but not everyone can read them anyway.]

    • marknesop says:

      The big tub of shit goes everywhere now in his fatigues, as if he’s just come from leading the army in a glorious charge. In fact he did his compulsory service in Kazakhstan, where there was nothing going on, and did the minimum compulsory period of service.

      • Moscow Exile says:

        Wonder how his Eton, Oxford and every-bloody-well-where else educated artillery officer son is getting on these days, he who is fighting the good fight in South-East Ukraine by disembowelling and dismembering civilians?

  21. yalensis says:

    Meanwhile, according to this piece , the first session of the new Rada (once elections are over) will be officially opened by a Deputy named Yury Shukhevich, who just happenes to be the son of the infamous UPA commander Roman Shukhevich.

    Prior to WWII, Shukhevich was busy assassinating Polish politicians.
    During WWII, Shukhevich turned his talents to murdering thousands of peaceful Jews, as well as continuing to murder Poles in great numbers, it goes without saying.
    “Shukhеvych died in combat against special units of the MVD near Lviv on March 5, 1950, aged 42. ”

    But he lives on! His son is a member of Lyashko’s party and will, as the article notes, officially open the new session of the Rada. HIghly symbolic.

    • Ali Cat says:

      Yalensis, this is totally off topic but Im having a hard time understanding when do you use : “у меня есть” I know that means – I have – but why is it that when you say “I dont have” you dont say – у меня нет есть -. and you only say – у меня нет -. Also I dont understand when you use I have and when you dont use it, I mean the complete thing, for example I have money or I have a lot of money, my russian teacher doesnt know the rule or when do you use it and when you dont, he is russian but he doesnt know. Also do you have any suggestions on how to learn the language without being so complicated, cuz Im having a hard time understanding many things. Thanks for any help 🙂

      • kirill says:

        “у меня нет есть” does not make sense since “есть” is not a noun but a verb. One could say correctly “у меня есть ничего” (I have nothing). But you can also say “у меня ничего нет” which is the same expression. Russian just drops the verb where it is awkward and not required to be clear.

        • Moscow Exile says:

          “у меня есть” means literally “by me [there] is”, hence “у меня есть деньги” = “I have [some] money”

          I should imagine that “нет” may have been a contraction of “не есть” = “not [there] is”, hence “у меня денег нет” – “I have no money”.

          One uses the genitive case of nouns after negation, in this case, literally “By me there is not of money”. The word for “money” in Russian is always plural and the genitive plural of “деньги” is “денег”.

          By the way, I say “I have money” in the affirmative and “I have no money” because in the negative I am talking about the absence of money in my possession.

          I also say in a question: “Have you any money?”

          I can also use the auxiliary verb “do” in questions and negatives, thus “Do you have any money?” and “I don’t have any money”.

          For me, using the auxiliary verb “do” implies “Are you in the habit of having any money?” and “I am in not in the habit of having any money” respectfully, e.g. “Do you have any money at the end of the month?” and “I don’t have any money at the end of the month”.

          US speakers of English don’t usually make this subtle differentiation and use “do/does” in questions and negations always.

          For example, if I ask for a bottle of Baltika № 3 beer in a bar, an English barman could answer either: “I’m sorry sir, but we have no Baltika” [now – maybe he’s just sold the last of the stock] or “I’m sorry sir, we don’t have Baltika” [maybe they used to have it, but it tastes like rat piss, nobody bought it, so they no longer stock it]

          In the first instance, a Russian would say “”У нас Балтика нет” whereas in the second instance he would say “У нас Балтика не бывает”.

          And that’s because the verb “to be” in Russian has an imperfective and perfective aspectival form, as do the vast majority of Russian verbs.

          “бывать” is the imperfective form of the verb “to be”, whereas “быть” is the perfective.

          Curiouser and curiouser!

          🙂

          .

      • yalensis says:

        Hi, Ali Cat,
        Congratulations for taking Russian lessons! I hope you find it fun.
        Yeah, Moscow Exile is correct that “нет” is historically a contraction of “не есть” (something like “there is not” or “there is no…”)

        I’m not sure of the exact rule, but I think you use “у меня есть” when you are stressing the existence of something in your possession.

        There might also be something like the difference between “the” and “a” in English:
        “у меня есть деньги” – I have some money, or I have money.
        “у меня деньги” – I have THE money (the money that we were talking about); or maybe switch the word order around: “деньги у меня” (the money is with me, or in my possession).

        I don’t know if that helps, but anyhow, ALL languages are difficult to learn! I don’t think there are any shortcuts, you have to just keep plugging away at it!

      • Johan Meyer says:

        While I didn’t study Russian, I did study the closely related Ukrainian, so I imagine the game is roughly the same, and I can often make sense of written Russian. A difference that might help: In Ukrainian, “I have” can be written as:
        Я маю + noun in accusative, or
        В/У мене (є) + noun in nominative
        but absense is indicated by
        В/У мене не має + noun in genitive

        Note that має and маю are the third and first person singular conjugations of мати (to have, although mother in the nominative is spelled/pronounced the same).

        Also note that the verb “be” tends to be implied.

        Do you have particular difficulties?

        • Moscow Exile says:

          Yes, in Russian there is the verb иметь – to have, declined thus:

          я име́ю
          ты име́ешь
          он/она/оно име́ет

          мы име́ем
          вы име́ете
          они име́ют

          But it doesn’t mean “have” in the sense of physically possessing something: it is used more metaphorically or about the “possession” of properties.

          Possession is generally expressed in Russian using у + genitive case of personal pronoun, i.e. меня, тебя, него, нее, нас, вас, них. (The letter “н” is added to the pronouns “его” [him], “ее” [her] and “их” [them] for ease of pronunciation, – rather like the French insert a “y” in “il-y-a”.) However, иметь is metaphorically used, especially when speaking of science, mathematics etc.

          Это уравнение имеет решение – This equation has a solution.
          Этот многочлен имеет один корень – This polynomial has one root.

          There is also the common expression иметь в виду – to keep in mind, but using иметь often sounds stilted and should be avoided in everyday conversations. You just have to keep your ears open for when native speakers use иметь and then imitate their usage, of this verb.

          Consider the following as regards the usage of иметь:

          Прямоугольник имеет четыре стороны – A rectangle has four sides

          and

          Этот прямоугольник имеет высоту 3 метра – This rectangle has a height of 3 metres.

          Using иметь thus sounds clumsy, awkward to Russian ears, though I don’t think it’s grammatically wrong: Russians would prefer to say in normal discourse:

          У прямоугольника четыре стороны – (literally) Of [the] rectangle [are] 4 sides

          and

          Высота этого прямоугольника — 3 метра – (literally)[The] height of this rectangle – 3 metres.

          Note: no articles in Russian and the verb “to be” in the present often held to be understood.

          In English, compare:

          “The rectangle possesses four sides”

          with

          “The rectangle has four sides”.

          The latter sounds less formal, whereas the former sounds pompous, stuffy, verbose, which is, I should imagine, how “Прямоугольник имеет четыре стороны” sounds to Russian ears.

          Also “иметь” is used when the construction “у … есть” cannot be used (e.g. in sentences without a subject).

          For example:

          Хорошо иметь друзей – It’s good to have friends.

          From a native speaker:

          “In general, in Russian we very rarely say that an object has (“имеет” or even “у … есть”) a property. A native speaker cannot say “Моя машина имеет красный цвет” – “My car has a red colour” (sounds really bad) or “У моего телевизора чёрный цвет” – “My television has a black colour” (sounds very awkward). However, one can say “Иодид цинка — химическое соединение с формулой ZnI₂, в безводной форме имеет белый цвет и активно поглощает влагу из воздуха” – Zinc Iodide is a chemical compound having the formula ZnI₂. In its anhydrous form it has a white colour and absorbs moisture from the air (this sentence is from Russian Wikipedia), because the context is very technical.”

          (My translations into English – ME)

    • Moscow Exile says:

      Although the world stood up and stopped the bastard, The bitch that bore him is in heat again.

      Bertolt Brecht

      • Moscow Exile says:

        The bastards are crawling out of the woodwork because “The Americans are with us!”

        Pandora’s box indeed!

        I’ve been thinking for a while though that as these people “come out” more and more there’s bound to be a reaction, not least from Poland.

        But I cannot help feel that Galicia is a sump hole of shits. Sure, there must be a few decent souls there – one or two.

  22. ThatJ says:

    Hillary: “Business Does Not Create Jobs”, Washington Does

    http://i0.wp.com/armstrongeconomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Hillary_Clinton_2016_president_bid_confirmed.jpg?resize=584%2C304

    We have a very serious problem with Hillary. I was asked years ago to review Hillary’s Commodity Trading to explain what went on. Effectively, they did trades and simply put winners in her account and the losers in her lawyer’s. This way she gets money that is laundered through the markets – something that would get her 25 years today.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-25/hillary-business-does-not-create-jobs-washington-does

    ECB Announces Stress Test Results: Here Are The 25 Banks That Failed

    As was leaked on Friday, when the market surged on news that some 25 banks would fail the ECB’s third stress test (because in the New Normal more bank failures means more bailouts, means the richer get richest, means more wealth inequality), so moments ago the ECB reported that, indeed, some 25 banks failed the European Central Bank’s third attempt at collective confidence building and redrawing of a reality in which there is about €1 trillion in European NPLs, also known as the stress test.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/node/496210

    Meet The Millennials: All You Ever Wanted To Know About America’s Youth, In Charts

    When it comes to the future of the US, the biggest question mark by far is anything relating to the Millennial generation, those Americans born between 1980 and 2000, which happens to be one of the biggest generations in US history.

    In fact, the largest US age cohort is currently the 23 year olds. However, Millennials are different from previous generations in many ways. For example, today’s 25-34 year olds are more likely to be minorities (40%) and a higher share of them has college degrees (35%). In addition, they are choosing different fields of study in college: while engineering was in the top five bachelors’ degrees awarded in 1980, in 2010, psychology replaced it in the top five rankings. This student debt-bubble funded college infatuation also happens to be the biggest curse of the Millennials, and as discussed a year ago, “Millennials Are Devastated As American Dream Becomes Nightmare For Most.”

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-25/meet-millennials-all-you-ever-wanted-know-about-americas-youth-charts

  23. Moscow Exile says:

    Перед выборами Порошенко хочет казаться Украине «миротворцем»

    Before the election Poroshenko wants to appear to the Ukraine as a “peacemaker”

    On the eve of the voting, the President has made a televised address

    Petro Poroshenko has made a pre-election appeal to the population, promising to resolve the conflict with the Donbass by means of peaceful methods. Quoting him word for word he said:

    “Is it possible to storm Donetsk without destroying it? For Putin this is a foreign city: for me it is our city; it is in our Motherland; it is Ukrainian. So no fault finding then – no matter how painful it might be – nothing will stop me from finding a peaceful solution to the situation”, said the Ukraine head of state, Petro Poroshenko, literally, adding: “We shall win the war, but not by means of force in the cities, but by efficient reforms and effective change in the country. Only through a political settlement can we return to those areas where there has not been and cannot be a military solution to the problem”.

    Peter Alekseevich would like to appear as a Ukrainian unifier and peacemaker, and to do this he switches off his memory, preferring not to focus voter attention on the fact that Donetsk and Lugansk, together with their surrounding towns, have been bombarded, bombed, strafed and fired upon at his behest.

    A couple of days earlier, however, while in Odessa, the same Poroshenko, described how he sees the process of a “peaceful settlement” for the region that he considers his “native land”:

    “We shall have a pension: they won’t. Our children will go to school; theirs will be sitting in the cellars. Everything will be fine for us: for them it won’t. We have victory in mind!” he said, the “them” he referred to being civilians in Novorossia. That is to say, he actually announced that he would do everything possible so that there would be no normal life in the Donbass, neither for children nor the elderly, until the Ukraine had tightened the noose around the neck of the residents of that region: they would either surrender or die.

    In that same Odessa, Poroshenko made, by the way, another shocking confession, in that he refused to consider the tragedy of the deaths of several dozen people at the local House of Trade Unions.

    “In the Russian media Odessa is even called “banderite”, which for me is more of a compliment to Odessa”, said this man who holds the post of President.

    “Odessa paid a very high price on 2 May [when in an arson attack on the House of Trade Unions by Maidan activists there were killed about 50 people – ed.]so as not to see now what what would have happened if we had not stopped the attempt of the separatists.”

    So the death of his compatriots is not a tragedy; there is neither sympathy nor condolence? This was only an episode in the struggle for “banderization” of Odessa, through which “Eurointegration” will be won, no matter what it costs in blood?

    Does it only seem to me that for Poroshenko there is no difference between Odessa, Donbass or even Kharkov?

  24. ThatJ says:

    Manufacturing a Hate Crime, Deflecting the Gaza Fallout

    Which Twitter message sounds more objectionable — a Jewish Member of Parliament threatening to punch an elderly Muslim woman in the throat, or a tweet to a female Jewish MP that read “You can always trust a Jew to show their true colours eventually.”?

    Prosecutors in England have no doubt. In the first case no action was taken against the Jewish MP in question. He issued a full apology and that was the end of the matter.

    But in the second case Garron Helm, a 21-year-old working class pro-White activist, has just been sent to prison for four weeks, for sending an “offensive, indecent or obscene message” to a Shadow Labour minister called Luciana Berger. In addition he was fined and expelled from college. An equally fulsome apology and payment of ab £80 “victim surcharge” to Ms. Berger did not help him.

    An undeniable example of a double standard then, and one which highlights some growing trends. One is the use of social media by mainly leftist women and minority groups to create a platform for bogus victimisation claims — effectively a market for “hate crime hoaxes”.

    But another is the way that Jewish political establishment have shrewdly integrated this into their strategy of ramping up scares that their community is under attack. With the UK Israel lobby somewhat at bay over the atrocities in Gaza, they have been working relentlessly to paint the picture of a Britain infested with rabid, psychotic anti-Semitism.

    […]

    For that champion of the poor and vulnerable, Luciana Berger has chalked up another victory. She and her well-funded political supporters lost no time in crowing about the conviction. Liberal Democrat MP and government minister Stephen Williams said: “We welcome today’s guilty verdict which shows there is no place for purveyors of hate to hide. This ruling sends out a message to all those who use social media to send out antisemitic, anti-Muslim, homophobic and racist comments that it is unacceptable and that we are serious about ensuring that those involved are arrested and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.”

    The Jewish community’s own private investigation agency the Community Security Trust, which maintains extensive links with the police and government agencies, also expressed satisfaction at the result. “Luciana Berger MP should be thanked for her role in this important case. CST welcomes the sentence and hopes it serves as a much needed warning to others.”

    No such treatment was meted out to Conservative MP Michael Fabricant who apologised after posting a tweet in June saying he might punch a female journalist in the throat. Fabricant’s late father Isaac was the rabbi of Brighton and Hove Synagogue. The target of his potential violence was a Muslim journalist Yasmin Alibhai-Brown after she appeared on a television debate.

    One of the most encouraging aspects of this affair has been the comments section of the Liverpool Echo which is filled with outrage and disgust at the treatment of Mr Helm.

    The prosecution is part of a pattern. Ever since the Gaza ceasefire, the Jewish establishment in Britain has pulled out all the stops to repair the damage and has resorted to tried and true tactics — invoking the shade of the holocaust at every turn and finding anti-Semitism everywhere.

    Again, this week it was the turn of the ascendant anti-Europe party UKIP to get the treatment. UKIP leader Nigel Farage has struck a fairly routine deal with the leader of a Polish right-wing party to go into an alliance which will help secure funding for both parties under EU rules. (Under EU rules, Farage’s alliance in the European Parliament, Europe of Freedom and Direct Democracy, requires at least 25 deputies from 7 countries in order to receive around £1 million annually.)

    But Britain’s leading Jewish political body, the Board of Deputies, chose to put the most sinister complexion on the matter and accused the UKIP leader of anti-Semitism by association. The Board was unable to furnish even one quote from the Polish politician that amounted to holocaust denial, but the British media were not going to be stopped by a little detail like that.

    With the Daily Mail in its usual place at the front of the howling mob, the BBC, Guardian, Independent, Telegraph, Financial Times, Reuters and Sky all fell into line and ran stories taking the Board’s paranoid angle. Even by the standards of the usual anti-Semitic scares this was thin gruel, but what was comically impressive was the way the media were able to whip themselves into a state of near apoplexy over an obscure Polish politician whose name they could not spell and who they had never heard of three days previously.

    Even denials from UKIP’s own Jewish members did not deflect the news angle. Clearly, the organized Jewish community in the UK is pulling out all the stops to destroy UKIP.

    Full text: http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2014/10/manufacturing-a-hate-crime-deflecting-the-gaza-fallout/

  25. Fern says:

    One of today’s ‘you have to laugh’ moments (I say ‘one of’ since we have the Ukrainian elections going on and they’re bound to yield others) comes courtesy of Ukraine’s embassy in Madrid which banned two Novosti reporters, one Russian, the other Spanish, from covering the polling inside the embassy because of……..Russian media bias in covering events in Ukraine. Of course, the NYT, Washington Post, Boston Globe, The Guardian, The Economist etc have been models of fair and balanced reporting that have a lot to teach the rest of the world.

  26. Southerncross says:

    http://rt.com/news/199376-ukraine-political-crisis-violence/

    Polls in Idiotland have closed (at 8PM). Turnout at 4PM was gloriously low:

    Total: 40.42%

    By region:

    Lugansk: 23.16%

    Donetsk: 27.69%

    Well that’s to be expected, right? People were being kept away from the polls by the threat of GRU androids. I’m sure the turnout will be much higher in newly-Banderite….

    Odessa: 28.84%

    Oh. Well, at least the Trident will have come out in force to show the colours:

    Ivano-Frankovsk: 48.69%

    Lvov: 49.57%

    Bloody hell!

    Well, on to the results:

    http://rt.com/news/199476-ukraine-parliamentary-elections-results/

    Pete’s group is the largest party with 23%. Yatsenyuk’s People’s Front has 21%. In third place with 14% is the idiot mayor of Lvov’s party, which has rat-man Konstantin Grishin on the list. Freak Lyashko has only 6%, and Svoboda even less. Timoshenko’s party got just 5%.

    Former Deputy Prime-Minister Yuri Boyko’s opposition bloc got 7%. Curious.

    • kirill says:

      The weak turnout reflects the fact that 51% of Ukrainians or more do not support the new regime and are voting with their feet by not showing up to vote in this farcical election. This is a Washington-installed “democracy” where the majority are disenfranchised.

      • Southerncross says:

        Seems the logical explanation. This result is pitiful even compared to the May election – especially for the far west.

        The results are suspicious – polls never put the People’s Front above 8.1%. And it is surprising that Batkivshchina should have forfeited so much support.

        • marknesop says:

          You’re just not looking at it the right way. Rather than a miserly “only” 40%, you could say “turnout “exceeded” 40%, and then put an exclamation point after it like you were pleasantly surprised, like this! That’s the way the Kyiv Post spun it. Porkoshenko himself went further down the garden path, telling fascinated journalists in Kramatorsk, “The turnout is very high. There’re not any major accidents during these elections which respond to all the European standards. An order in the country is not determined by the number of thieves, but by the goverment’s ability to fight them.” There you have it. The turnout is very high, and a fat man in combat clothing would never lie to you.

          Turnout for the 2011 Duma elections in Russia must have been earth-shattering, then, at 60.1%.

          Some suspicious activity in Donbas, which some hinted last time supplied Porky with the sinews of his victory. Apparently “over 15 district commissions in Donbas have changed its members last night. “There are serious concerns that this night, the last day when members of district commissions could be changed, such changes took place in Luhansk and Donetsk Oblasts,” said Leonid Yemets, a candidate at Kyiv’s district 221 and a representative of the People’s Front in Central Election Commission. According to Yemets, new members of district commissions are people who worked for the former ruling Party of Regions and possibly rigged elections in the past.”

          Check out the photo of the bullet-riddled car in Dnipropetrovsk Oblast – it appears clearly to have been attacked by several weapons, two of which look to have been shotguns firing both buckshot and slugs, unless those bog holes were made by one hell of a large-calibre rifle. The pattern low on the passenger door looks like 00 buckshot, fired from far enough away that the pattern had time to spread a little and some shot did not penetrate the exterior. Make carousel voting look pretty lame, don’t it? Yet Geoffrey Pyatt, out for a stroll in Kiev to see how things were going, observed nothing untoward: “I visited polling stations in Kyiv, in Kyiv Oblast… I did not notice any significant violations or problems

          If you read through the timeline, some candidates had their cars stoned by voters, some voters were paid to vote, and you can bet if the shooting attack had occurred in Moscow or anywhere in Russia on voting day, it would have led on every major western network, you would have gotten sick hearing about it. I don’t watch TV, but I’m willing to bet there was never a whisper of it.

          • Moscow Exile says:

            You mean … there were no carousels ! ! !

          • Hunter says:

            I saw a prediction that about half of those who voted for the Party of Regions and Communists in 2012 would probably stay home for this election. I worked it out to be that voter turnout would then be around 16.4 million from an eligible list of 35.8 million. This would give a 45-46% turnout.

            But then I didn’t factor in the loss of Crimea and Sevastopol. With 1.8 million eligible voters in those two territories, the total number of eligible voters in Ukraine falls to 33.9 million. I however doubt the Ukrainian electoral commission would do this since it would implicitly accept the loss of Crimea (and Sevastopol). However with only a few voters coming from Crimea with their Ukrainian passports to vote, then the vote from Crimea is negligible even if Crimea is still included officially for electoral purposes by Ukraine. Thus when we exclude the 49.65% of the voters from Sevastopol and Crimea who voted in 2012 from the number expected to vote we get an expected turnout of 15.3 million from an official voter roll of 35.8 million. Which then leaves us with a 43% turnout.

            This isn’t surprising though. Ukrainian parliamentary election turnouts have been decreasing steadily since those first parliamentary elections in 1994 since independence in 1991:

            2014 – 40% provisional…likely 43-47% (maybe 51%)

            2012 – 57.99%

            2007 – 62.02%

            2006 – 67.44% (estimate)

            2002 – 69.3%

            1998 – 70.8%

            1994 – 75.8%

            Even without all the upheaval, any parliamentary elections in 2014 were likely to have a lower turnout than 2012 (probably 56-57%) and the elections that WERE due in 2017 would probably have had a 54% turnout or so.

            Now, who knows? Perhaps the elections due in 2019 (assuming no more revolutions) will have a 40-45% turnout

      • yalensis says:

        I’m even suspicious of the supposed 50% turnout. Right up until the last couple of hours, it was more like 40%, then inching up to 44%.
        And then a sudden surge in the last hour, when all these magical voters suddenly appeared out of thin air! Yeah, right.

  27. Moscow Exile says:

    Also do you have any suggestions on how to learn the language without being so complicated, cuz Im having a hard time understanding many things. Thanks for any help.

    Marry your teacher.

    That’s what Mrs. Exile did.

  28. Hunter says:

    Meanwhile on the military front, an update on the figures from http://lostarmour.info/armour/

    On October 26, 2014 the total number of destroyed armoured vehicles which were identifiable with documentary proof stood at 447 of which 384 were Ukrainian government vehicles, 39 were rebel vehicles and 24 were unknown as to which force operated them

    From the last time I checked the numbers this means that over a 25 day period the Ukrainian government lost 49 vehicles, the rebels lost 6 vehicles and 3 vehicles were lost which could not be confirmed as belonging to either the Ukrainian government or the rebels.

    So to go over the summary of how many vehicles were destroyed over time and the rate of destruction:

    Period—–total destroyed—–government—–rebel—–unkown—–govt. loss rate—–rebel loss rate

    April to Aug 15/16—–125-130—–113—–12—–? (maybe 5)—–1 per day—–1 every 9 days

    Aug 15/16 to Sept 2—–220—–190—–24—–6—–4.5 per day—–1 every 1.4 days

    Sept 2 to Sept 4—–283—–247—–27—–9—–28.5 per day—–1.5 per day

    Sept 4 to Sept 6—–297—–257—–29—–11—–5 per day—–1 per day

    Sept 6 to Sept 8—–309—–268—–29—–12—–5.5 per day—–no confirmed loss

    Sept 8 to Sept 18—–351—–303—–31—–17—–3.5 per day—–1 every 5 days

    Sept 18 to Oct 1—–385—–335—–33—–21—–2.3 per day—–1 every 7 days

    Oct 1 to Oct 26—–447—–384—–39—–24—–1.96 per day—–1 every 4.166 days

    Once again, overall, in spite of a relatively heavy battle, the loss rate of vehicles on both sides has been going downwards since September 2-4 although the rebels having been losing more vehicles at a higher rate over the past 3+ weeks.

    Also this is again ONLY looking at the “destroyed armour” page periodically since August 15.

    Looking at the other pages and comparing the changes since October 1 we get:

    The “spoils” page at http://lostarmour.info/spoils:

    Oct 1—–184 captured armoured vehicles—–163 captured from govt—–21 captured from rebels

    Oct 26—–205 captured armoured vehicles—–184 captured from govt—–21 captured from rebels

    I didn’t write down the figures for the more recently created destroyed artillery, captured artillery, destroyed rocket artillery or captured artillery pages from October 1st so there won’t be anything to compare it to, but the figures from those pages are:

    Destroyed Artillery:

    Oct 26—–13 destroyed artillery—–12 govt—–1 rebel

    Captured Artillery:

    Oct 26—–26 captured artillery—–25 captured from govt—–1 captured from rebels

    Destroyed Rocket Artillery:

    Oct 26—–13 destroyed rocket artillery—–13 govt—–0 rebel

    Captured Rocket Artillery:

    .Oct 26—–2 captured rocket artillery—–2 captured from govt—–0 captured from rebels

    And it seems that they are going to be putting up the losses from the Ukrainian air force and navy as well soon.

    Total government losses in vehicles, artillery, and other ground based weaponry seems to be 410 destroyed with 211 captured. Total rebel losses in ground based weaponry seems to be 40 destroyed and 22 captured. A total of 24 destroyed vehicles were of unknown ownership.

  29. ThatJ says:

    Wasn’t Lyashko’s party polling higher than what it got? I recall polls where it placed a strong third — and even second — position. And wasn’t Yats’ party polling lower than what it received?

    In fact, a somewhat recent poll placed Porky’s bloc with almost twice the intention of votes (~40%) than Yats’.

    Yet so far both parties received almost the same %.

    Porky’s party bled a lot of support, apparently. Yats robbed (perhaps literally) the votes from both Lyashko’s and Porky’s parties.

    This is curious, but I am not surprised because to me it was clear that Yats is a total ‘American’ tool, a Jewish neocon favorite (Nudelman anyone?) (and one himself), and definitely doesn’t take his nationalism seriously, using it merely as an anti-Russian bait. Again, this reminds me Britain. The British were led into a nationalist frenzy before WWII and were subsequently duped by the Zionists. Today Mohammed is the most common name for babies in England, which can’t be worse than being overrun by the Huns (wouldn’t have happened anyway). This change was top-down without the consent of the population, as was the anti-German (pseudo) nationalism promoted by certain powerful cicles in Britain. The US had a very similar background regarding Jewish involvement in promoting the war.

    The Zionists don’t trust nationalists, at best, they are used as shabbos goyim (useful cattle) against a bigger ideological enemy and then discarded.

    The Zionists would very much prefer a self-hating (i.e. Ukraine-hating) liberast government, one which also hates Russia and teach things like gay rights, the rights of Arabs and Africans to displace them from their lands, the evils of thinking that this doesn’t sound alright, things like that. The Zionists clearly have their doubts about the reliability of Porky.

    • yalensis says:

      Yeah, Lyashko was actually polling in second place, and then all of a sudden he had this epic fail in the actual voting.
      Personally, I think he wuz robbed!

    • Southerncross says:

      “Wasn’t Lyashko’s party polling higher than what it got? I recall polls where it placed a strong third — and even second — position. And wasn’t Yats’ party polling lower than what it received?”

      Yes and yes. Lyashko’s was expected to be the third largest party. Yatsenyuk’s final result is nearly three times his best poll result.

      Yatsenyuk’s party is a real freakshow – Turchinov, Avakov, Parubiy and Chornovil. The jewel in the crown is Andriy Biletsky, the Kharkovite maniac who commands the Azov Battalion. In his own words:

      “The historical mission of our nation at this critical moment is to lead the White Race in the last crusade for its survival. A crusade against the subhumans led by the Semites!”.

      No doubt he and Yatsenyuk have interesting conversations together.

      “The Zionists would very much prefer a self-hating (i.e. Ukraine-hating) liberast government”

      Nobody is much interested in promoting western white guilt in eastern Europe. It’s enough to have liberasts in control of the finances and the bureaucracy, with the alleged nationalists acting as enforcers. Yatsenyuk is still Washington’s darling even while he associates with Biletsky.

      • ThatJ says:

        “Yes and yes. Lyashko’s was expected to be the third largest party. Yatsenyuk’s final result is nearly three times his best poll result”

        And the US will not bother to claim fraud. Why? Because the US doesn’t have fairness in mind when it criticises a government, only interests. Yats’ party won’t be criticised because it represents American interests. Things such as human rights and fairness and equality, the Zionists don’t take any of this seriously. The American hostile elite is self-deceptive. Whether this self-deception takes form unconsciously (implying no malice is involved) is open to debate.

        “Nobody is much interested in promoting western white guilt in eastern Europe”

        I would never put my bet on it.

    • Moscow Exile says:

      Today Mohammed is the most common name for babies in England …”

      That’s not quite true!

      Recently, newspapers in the UK stated that the most common name being registered for newly born boys in London was Mohammed.

      London is not England!

      As I have said on more than one occasion here, according to the most recent government censuses, my home town has as “white British” (that’s the choice given in the boxes that one has to tick) a population of 98.8%, and knowing my home town very well, having lived there for 40 years from 1949, I should imagine that the remaining 1.2% of my fellow townsmen would have very likely classified itself as Irish. (I have long not contributed to such censuses, of course, but if I did, I would classify myself as “other” because I don’t think that the category “Germanic Pagan” is included.)

      Furthermore, it was reported in national newspapers that according to the last census, my home town was the most Christian in the UK in that over 90% of its population classified itself as Christian. However, that statistic notwithstanding, the churches are empty in my home town. In fact, many of them have been demolished over the past 30 years, including the one where my mother and father, grandparents and great-grandparents had been married and where I had been christened, yet folk back home still think of themselves as Christians, possibly because they do not think of themselves as Hindus, Jews and Mohammedans. And this, I suspect, is how the vast majority of ethnic Russians here think of religion, if they indeed think of it at all: they associate themselves with Russian Eastern Orthodox Christianity culturally, but they don’t go to church, know little of Orthodox dogma and are dubious about the existence of a godhead.

      See: United Kingdom Demographics Profile 2014

      white 87.2%, black/African/Caribbean/black British 3%, Asian/Asian British: Indian 2.3%, Asian/Asian British: Pakistani 1.9%, mixed 2%, other 3.7%

      Of course, those percentages above concerning ethnicity do not apply to London.

      • ThatJ says:

        Here’s a funny coincidence. I did write before that it was London where Mohammed became the most common name for baby males. It was not until months later that I read the article again (I think it was the same) and learned that I was wrong: Mohammed (and its spelling variations: Mohamad, Mohamed, Mohammad, Muhammad, Muhamad, Muhamed, Muhamet, Muhammed, Muhammet, Mahammud) is the most common name for baby males not in London alone, but in the whole of England.

        From Wikipedia:
        “Muhammad was the most common baby boy name in England and Wales in 2009, 2011 and 2012 and the second most popular in 2007 and 2010, combining 14 spelling variations.”
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_%28name%29

        I consulted Wikipedia solely for getting the spelling variations and the information was there as well. Small cities will prove unable to prevent the trend, I am afraid.

        Also from Wikipedia:

        “Mohammed and Mohamed were the first most popular baby name in Département Seine-Saint-Denis (2002, 2008)[5] and in Marseilles (2007, 2009), France.[6] Similarly, since 2008 it is the most popular baby boy name in Brussels and Antwerpen, Belgium’s most Muslim populated cities.”

        To be pro-EU and pro-European is one and the same, right? That’s the message you get from the MSM: EU-skeptics are called “anti-European”, and pro-EU politicians are called “pro-European”. The discourse is such that the EU is considered Europe itself — a single entity — instead of being considered an umbrella of hostile political forces that are harming the physical, real Europe, and its native and rightful inhabitants, and driving them to genocide. Brussels is not even an European city anymore, this is a joke. An European Union without Europeans is worthless, and guess what — it’s anti-European.

        • Moscow Exile says:

          Friday, August 5, 2014

          Top 100 most popular baby names in England and Wales released – where is your name on the list?

          August 12, 2014

          Top baby names revealed in England and Wales

          15 August, 2014

          MUHAMMED IS BRITAIN’S MOST POPULAR BOYS NAME

          Do you really believe that statisticians count these spelling variants as different names?

          My Christian name, by the way, has two ways of spelling it. Do you really think UK government statisticians consider those two variants different names?

          • ThatJ says:

            The Metro link says that Muhammad is the 15th most common name for baby males. Coincidentally, Muhammad is the ‘real’ name, even Wikipedia will redirect you to this ‘original’ spelling if you try a variant. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed

            When all variations are considered, the picture painted is not good. And then we have those non-continental parents who choose typical British names, adding to an already grave situation.

            Breibart says basically the same thing:

            “…[A]s a result of the way the statistics are put together, the name [Muhammad] does not appear to have won, as the ONS classifies each of the different spellings as a different entry on the list. This means that “Muhammad” came in 15th with 3,499 children but “Mohammed” was 23rd with 2,887 and “Mohammad” was 57th with 1059 given the name.

            As a result the top three spellings alone accounted for the names of 7,445 boys, easily beating the second most popular name Oliver which got just 6,949. Also the statistics are only published for the top 100 names, so the even more obscure spellings of Mohammed are likely to push the total even higher.”

            If the statisticians have access to databases, and I think they do, then surely they can run a search for the variations, do the math, come up with a total sum, and write about it. Nowadays the governments keep these types of data all in digital form. So we can say that statisticians don’t do the count themselves, computers do — in a matter of seconds.

            • Jen says:

              But if the popularity of Mohammad is supposed to suggest something about the birth rate of Muslims compared to other groups, then why are other common Muslim names like Hussein, Abdul, Abdullah, Ali, Aisha and Fatima not ranking within the top 100 names for children born in England and Wales in 2013 in this list?
              http://www.britishbabynames.com/blog/combined-spellings-2013-boys.htmls

              It seems to me that Mohammad is a popular name because, being the name of the Prophet, it probably has a function of being a title, like Sir or Lord or Prince, or the birth family’s way of requesting Allah’s favour and protection over the child, so in that sense it is like a saint’s name. There is another thing to consider and that is that non-Muslim families have a far greater choice of children’s names to choose from whereas Muslim parents in the UK may be constrained by family or cultural tradition to select names from a narrow lexicon of Muslim names and to name at least one of their male children Mohammad.

            • Moscow Exile says:

              white 87.2%, black/African/Caribbean/black British 3%, Asian/Asian British: Indian 2.3%, Asian/Asian British: Pakistani 1.9%, mixed 2%, other 3.7%

              The “other”, by the way, includes Poles, Russians, French people, German, Australians, Canadians, New Zealanders etc., etc.

              In other words, probably 90% plus of the UK population is “white” – and the population is about 64.1 million.

              And how many little Mohammeds were born last year…?

              7,445?

              Out of a population of about 59 million whites?

              I can guarantee there are very few, if any Mohammeds, where I come from.

              I once told a PC Londoner that, adding that my home town has a near 100% “White British” population.

              She responded that I must come from some godforsaken racist village in Cumberland then.

              I don’t. And many of my town’s local heroes are Pacific Islanders and Maoris who play rugby there when it’s close season in Australia.

              Mal Meninga, one of the best centres we ever had and a hugely popular bloke in my home town, was a part Aborigine cop from Brisbane.

              • Moscow Exile says:

                My mistake!

                Mal Meninga is of part Islander (Samoan, I think), not Australian Aborigine descent.

                He’s also part Sweaty Sock, but that doesn’t make him a bad person.

                🙂

                • davidt says:

                  Go on, go on. You still miss it

                • Moscow Exile says:

                  Yes, I hold my hands up and confess that Rugby League is one of only four things that I miss from the “Old Country”.

                  The other three are (and not necessarily in the following order):

                  kippers
                  malt vinegar
                  the proximity of the sea

                  There are far, far more things, however, that I miss as I would a proverbial hole in the head.

        • Jen says:

          My understanding is that a lot of Muslim parents actually give the name Muhammad to their sons as if it were a title or something like a saint’s name, to confer protection as it were, in the same way that Roman Catholic parents traditionally named their children Mary or Joseph, or Sikh parents giving children Singh or Kaur as their middle names. It’s likely that nearly every Muslim family in Britain has one male member called Muhammad. The same polls that list Muhammad as a popular boys’ name don’t show other common Muslim boys’ names like Hussein, Ahmad, Ali, Mustafa or Omar (and their variations). If Muslims truly were swamping the British, French and other populations, we would see these and other common Muslim children’s names in the lists. Aisha and Fatima are common Muslim girls’ names but we don’t see those in the polls.

  30. davidt says:

    @Jen Yes, it was Q&A, and thanks for correcting my spelling. Of course, the film was mostly shot at Robertson, a little way from Bowral, but I wanted the Don Bradman connection for ME. Interestingly, I finished up in clinic in St Petersburg at the time of the G20 and adjacent to it was the closed-off street where Obama insisted on staying- the other leaders stayed out at Peterhof. This annoyed the locals, especially the taxi drivers, very much. One of the doctors, whom my wife became friendly with, dismissed Obama as a warmonger- he got it pretty right. (Off the record, Russia seemed a much more civilized place after our (all Australian) touring party moved on. Everyone whom we then met were very friendly and generally revealed good English skills. The hotel staff even gave my wife a platter of fruit for her birthday when I was stuck in the hospital.)

    • Moscow Exile says:

      That woman who played farmer Hogget’s wife in “Babe”, by the way, isn’t Australian anyway: she’s a Polish-Pom born in Liverpool, England (not Liverpool NSW) of a Polish father and a Scots-Irish mother – and you’re welcome to her mate!

      That ratbag of a prime minister you had recently was Welsh an’ all;she wasn’t a real Aussie because she wasn’t called Sheila.

      Speaking of which, I wonder where Colliemum is these days? – not that I would classify her in the same way as I have just classed her fellow countrywoman.

      🙂

      • davidt says:

        Calm down, calm down. Magda Sz is actually quite a clever comedienne, and she is a bit more complex than I knew- did you click on the link Jen supplied? Julia Gillard was unfortunately called worse things than “Sheila”. I struggled to have much respect for her after she embarrassed herself by her obsequious behavior in front of Obama. but I have seen this sort of behavior before. What do you do? This humble scribe still prefers her to Maggie T. Do you know her? (By the way, JG was supposedly “left wing” when she was young… there are some things you are not meant to understand.)

      • Jen says:

        It was a fair trade: we got Magda Szubanski and Julia Gillard and you got Rolf Harris.
        🙂

        • Moscow Exile says:

          Well, “we” got Clive James and Barry Humphries thrown in with Harris, so it wasn’t that bad of a deal.

          Right, it’s getting late now so I”ll just have to pop out and tie me kangaroo down, sport.

          🙂

          • Jen says:

            Yes, pop out and tie me kangaroo down and Jake the Peg-leg, sport. 🙂

          • davidt says:

            Clive James nearly tackled Reg Gasnier once- they were both Kogarah boys. I find it hard to warm to Humphries- I think that he’s a bit of a misanthrope. I don’t think that either gentlemen is well disposed to Russia. Explain please.

            • Moscow Exile says:

              You do realize that you have gone and ruined my day by mentioning him? I thought he had been successfully cleared from my nightmare memory banks and then you go and resurrect memories of him that had apparently been hidden deep away in the canyons of my mind.

              When you’re 14-years of age, you can be very impressionable. I was 14 in 1963 and witnessed this.

              Oh shit! And now memories of Beetson are surfacing …

              🙂

            • Moscow Exile says:

              I haven’t seen either of them perform for ages, of course, and they must both be very long in the tooth now. However, I always liked James’ dry wit when he did reviews on TV and Humphries’ mockery of affected bourgeoisie (Dame Edna) and pompous, shit-for-brains poiticians (Sir Les) always amused me.

              I always took it for granted that both are “lefties”, but I have just read a description of Humphries as being “a conservative contrarian while many in his generation were moving left, Humphries nevertheless retained a bohemian delight in transgression that makes him a radical”. (See: Barry Humphries, the clown prince of suburbia).

              Clive James, on the other hand, maintained in an interview given to the Sunday Times in 2006 that “I was brought up on the proletarian left, and I remain there. The fair go for the workers is fundamental, and I don’t believe the free market has a mind”.

              That’ll do for me!

              🙂

              • Jen says:

                The original satirical purpose of Edna Everage and Les Patterson seems to be as much lost on Humphries himself as on his audiences.

                • davidt says:

                  You’re a good man ME. Gasnier died earlier this year and Beetson died perhaps 2 or 3 years ago. Both were very popular even after they retired- Gasnier was a very civilized sort of guy whilst Beetson was admired for his knock around sense of humor. I only saw Gasnier play once, but many of the others in that team many times.
                  The first time I saw Beetson play must have been in 1966. GB had Tommy Bishop and that well-known pigeon fancier Alan Hardisty. They were wonderful players.
                  Many Australians who emigrated to England craved respect from English society, and James seems to pick up the English Russophobia- mind you, he would have picked that up here. (Did you ever look up Bandar Log (monkeys) after a crack by Putin? Putin clearly thinks that the west should adopt their motto.)
                  I spent a year in Newcastle upon Tyne many years ago and whilst there James made a comment that stuck with me. He was working as a TV reviewer and the American actresses must have had perfect teeth. This lead him to comment that he thought that every American male has the fantasy of being eaten alive by a woman with perfect teeth.
                  Still not as clever as Putin’s crack.

                • Moscow Exile says:

                  Time waiteth for no man.

                  For davidt:

                  I have just checked out on Gasnier and Beetson. Sad to say, both have passed away – Gasnier only quite recently, as you have already informed me above.

                  Hardly surprising, I suppose. I said above that I was 14 in 1963, and I seem to forget that that was bloody ages ago.

                  Funny you should mention Tommy Bishop. I knew him very well. He was from a couple of streets away from mine in an area of my hometown whose tiny dwellings had been thrown up in the 1850s – a classic Victorian slum, as they said. Tommy’s elder brother George, was my chargehand down the pit where I worked.

                  I used to booze in Tommy’s pub that he ran, “The Phoenix”, when he was back in the UK in the early ’80s and coaching Leigh RLFC. He had all his international caps and Great Britain jerseys on display in cases in the bar, and I remember calling into the Phoenix one Monday evening after having spent the weekend away from my hometown, and there’d been a fire there during the night of the previous Saturday-Sunday, which fortunately had been contained in the bar, but unfortunately had burnt all his memorabilia from his glory days.

                  Tommy went back to Australia for good about 1987. He loved the place and often tried to persuade me to emigrate there after I had found myself out of work and blacklisted following the miners’ strike of 1984-85. But I’d started my new life by then, drifting around Germany at first, and eventually ended up here in the Empire of Evil.

                  Such is fate.

  31. Southerncross says:

    http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/1864697.html

    Assorted spoiled ballots. ‘Alternative’ votes included:

    “For DNR, LNR, and Russia!”

    “Slavyansk, Novorossiya, and I’m a separatist”

    “Glory to Givi, Strelkov, Motorola and Batman!”

    “Ukrainians to the knives, glory to Putin!’

    *Crude drawing of male genitalia*

    • yalensis says:

      That “crude drawing of male genitalia” is probably the reason why you have to pledge that you are >=18 before they let you read the blog!

  32. Southerncross says:

    http://112.ua/politika/rezultaty-vyborov-narodnyy-front-27-33-blok-poroshenko-27-00-rpl-8-73-135896.html

    Better and better – The Poroshenko Bloc and the People’s Front are now at 21.69 and 21.62 respectively. VO Svoboda has fallen below 5%.

    Reuters and the Wall Street Journal the describe the plethora of criminals and warlords in the People’s Front and Radical Party as ‘Pro-Europe’.

    • Fern says:

      Has anyone, including the people voting, got any idea what these parties stand for? Do any of them have manifestos, policies etc which go beyond aspirational statements – abolish corruption! European standards of living! – and include actual plans on how such happy outcomes might be achieved?

      One of the parties is called ‘Samopomich’, which glancing at it quickly without my glasses, I misread as ‘Sonofabitch’ – for a moment, I thought a dazzling display of honesty had burst forth on the Ukrainian political scene. Alas, it was not to be.

      • marknesop says:

        I believe that’s the self-help party, whose slogan is “Take! And make!” Doubtless their plan is a little more complex than the slogan would indicate, and perhaps it sounds more populist and impressive in Ukrainian, but it’s perfectly true that all the major parties consider it sufficient to promise Ukraine will continue its westward slog and that things will get better someday. There’s no need to delve too deeply into how this will all come about, because the vague notion of economic reform is based in its entirety on the premise that donor nations will give Ukraine lots of money. They’re fully aware that Ukraine is incapable of coming up with any itself, and begging is just simpler all around. No plans, and I mean whatsoever, have been made for the state of affairs should that happy eventuality fail to come about.

      • Southerncross says:

        Fuck Russia, Europe will make us rich. That’s their platform, and it’s good enough for their voters.

        There’s a novel called the Catastrophist, set in the Belgian Congo shortly before independence. In one scene, the protagonist witnesses firsthand a speech by an MNC candidate in the upcoming elections. The candidate is dressed in a coat and tails, standing up in his limousine as though it were a chariot. Around his vehicle swarm thirty or forty of his followers, waving axes, spears, clubs and the like. The candidate promises the people that if they vote for him they will all live in big houses, that they will have the wives of the Belgians, that their crops will be good, that money will grow in their fields, that their dead relatives will rise and return to them, their bodies as perfect as when they were young.

        That’s the kind of thinking that now prevails in the Ukraine.

      • yalensis says:

        Dear Fern:
        Just for your dilectation, I wiki’ed the Sonofabitch Party, here is the English-language result. They are a product of Western Ukraine/Galicia.
        Their ideology consists of “Christian morality and common sense”.
        Because that’s really all the ideology that any nation needs to function nowadays.

        LIke my dear old mum says, if everybody in the world just followed the 10 Commandments, then the world would be a perfect place!

        [To which I usually reply, cheekily, Does that mean I have to take down my expensive Golden Bull idol, which I routinely worship? I paid a lot of money for that thing!]

    • marknesop says:

      You have to love Ukraine’s enthusiasm for democracy, though. Elections are so exciting for them that three of them fell down dead of heart attacks during polling. One was only 50; salo is obviously not a sovereign remedy for a dodgy ticker. That’s along with what observers have described as “massive irregularities” in Odessa voting, and which commenters at the Kiev Post quickly declared to be the last spasms of Moskali sleeper trolls rigging ballot boxes. Oh, and the car that got shot up in Dnipropetrovsk Oblast. But Geoffrey Pyatt saw nothing unusual, and Kiev tells us observers found no significant irregularities. And Kiev has a pretty good track record for telling the truth.

      • Jen says:

        Those three gentlemen were obviously part of the stampede of some 3 million to vote between 4 pm and 8 pm that apparently pushed voter turn-outs from 40% to 50% while the sun was setting at about 4:45 pm and minimum temperatures were starting to duck below freezing point.
        http://weathertemperature.com/forecast/?q=Ukraine

        • yalensis says:

          Oh, pshaw! that surge of sudden voters was explained away by one of the pro-svidomite commenters on miltaryphotos .net

          He explained that hordes of people were still at their dachas all day Sunday, and it was only after they returned, after 4:00 PM, that they were able to make it to the polling stations.

          (To which another commenter questioned why people are still at their dachas in late October, with no heat on?)

          • yalensis says:

            P.S. – everybody who has followed elections in post-Soviet nations, knows that there is some kind of “magic in the air” in the final hours of voting. I believe this “magic” happens in American elections too.

            I am not sure exactly what the mechanism is, I would love to know, but basically, millions of pre-marked votes suddenly appear by magic, supposedly. But only on as “as-needed” basis, according to how things have gone up to that point.

            • Jen says:

              The mechanism is the sunset. Click on the link I supplied above and you’ll see that in Kyiv at least on 27 October 2014, sunset time is around 4:45 pm. It’s a fair bet then that the day before, when the sun set at the same time, hordes of Banderites emerged from their sleeping spots beneath cellar floors in their dachas and raced to the polling booths before they shut at 8 pm.

  33. Fern says:

    Just when you thought you could no longer be surprised by the Russia-bashing and Putin-demonising western MSM, along comes an article in the Washington Post that proves you wrong. Never one to let a global crisis pass without investing it with an evil-Russia glow, the Post has this headline – “Ebola crisis rekindles concern about secret research in Russian military labs” and goes on to say:-

    The bioweapons program officially ended in 1991, but Ebola research continued in Defense Ministry laboratories, where it remains largely invisible despite years of appeals by U.S. officials to allow greater transparency. Now, at a time when the world is grappling with an unprecedented Ebola crisis, the wall of secrecy surrounding the labs looms still larger, arms-control experts say, feeding conspiracy theories and raising suspicions……..

    “The bottom line is, we don’t know what they’re doing with any of the pathogens in their possession,” said Amy Smithson, a biological weapons expert who has traveled to several of the labs and written extensively about the Soviet-era weapons complex……

    Even acknowledging — as most experts do — that Russia halted work on offensive bio­weapons decades ago, the program’s opacity is a recurring irritant in diplomatic relations and a source of worry for security and health experts who cite risks ranging from unauthorized or rogue experiments to the theft or accidental escape of deadly microbes.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/ebola-crisis-rekindles-concerns-about-secret-research-in-russian-military-labs/2014/10/23/ce409716-5945-11e4-b812-38518ae74c67_story.html

    Mmmm, personally, I’m more inclined to put the blame for the Ebola crisis on the poor response of the WHO – now, apparently a pet project of the Gates Foundation – and the international community aided and abetted by decades of the privatisation agenda, often aggressively pushed by westerners in African countries already damaged by war and endemic poverty, which has rendered the very concept of public health moot and not on what may have happened in Soviet-era labs. Furthermore, bearing in mind the US has patented a variant of Ebola, I’d say that if there has been any genetic tinkering with the virus – and some experts believe the strain currently laying waste to swathes of west Africa is more aggressive than that seen in previous outbreaks – the labs where that took place won’t be in the Russian Federation.

    There are no depths to which MSM will not sink to smear Russia.

      • ThatJ says:

        Bioweapon is a topic of personal interest to me.

        Genetic modification and selection of the most virulent strains of known diseases and their weaponization means a country can, in theory, unleash all these pathogens on another country by air using aerosol, infected vectors and whatnot (one has to be creative in thinking how to better affect your enemy: cattle & crop killing diseases, virus-spreading insects and animals, aerosol, all with transmissibility & lethality in mind), and wait the plagues do their job. As we know, some people are simply immune to this or that disease, so for maximum effect I think 5 – 10 different pathogens would be deployed in case of biowarfare. You may have natural protection against one or two, but let’s see if your immune system can handle 10 devastating viruses/bacteries.

        Scary, and no wonder some resourceful countries are still researching bioweapons with utmost secrecy.

    • marknesop says:

      Hmmmm….American experts, like most others, acknowledge that Russia halted work on offensive bioweapons decades ago, but the several-decades-defunct program is still too opaque for them. Yeah….I guess that makes sense. You never know when some biowarfare geriatric octogenarian will dump his walker and decide to carry out a rogue plague experiment – old guys do that kind of stuff all the time.

      Meanwhile, the Richard C. Lugar Central Public Health Centre in Tbilisi, funded by Washington and in which U.S. Army researchers and medical personnel train Georgian scientists in pathogen research and biosecurity, should not be anywhere near as much a concern as a biowarfare program that has been dead for decades. Why not? Well, because the USA just hopes that Russia will see how transparent it is, and that they will use it, too. It’s a good thing, see?

    • ThatJ says:

      I liked this comment:

      US Military has been chomping at the bit for some time now to establish AfriComm Base in Africa. Suss out YouTube and type “Joseph Kony” for just one of many ruses.

      Ebola–whether released intentionally or not–has done the trick. The 101st is busy outside of Monrovia, Liberia building a fresh new MILITARY base from the ground up. All personnel has been vaccinated using the TekMira vaccine. A few guys are dicking around with building temporary hospitals.

      Why a military base in Africa? Old fashioned colonialism. We can thwart Chinese resource supply chains and keep our Empire and USD humming along quite nicely seeing that raping and pillaging the old Soviet Union was not in the cards, thanks to Putin. Africa is very rich in all resources, why let the Natives get in the way?

      Once ebola gets introduced into North America, the CIA et al can tweak the FEAR rachet whenever it feels like. This is 9/11 all over again. Same cast of schmucks behind the scenes.

  34. Moscow Exile says:

    Sweden got knocked back to the tune of $3 million dollars in searching for an unidentified underwater object.

    Ghost Hunt: Sweden spends $3mn on search for mystery foreign submarine

  35. astabada says:

    @AliCat

    I have some good resources for learning Russian. If you want some of them (in pdf) mark could forward you my email contact.

  36. yalensis says:

    One of the new elected deputies to the Rada is a guy named Serhiy Melnichuk. He is the commander of the Aidar Battalion.
    In his victory speech, Melnichuk announced that, upon entering the Rada, his first order of business will be to (…) wait for it (…)

    BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF SEMEN SEMENCHENKO!

    Semenchenko, by the way, who is commander of Donbass Battalion, ran on the “Sonofabitch” party ticket, whereas Melnichuk ran on Lyashko’s party. Both were elected deputies and will enter the new Rada.

    London bookies are already calling this “The Fight of the Century” and are taking bets.
    [I made up that last bit, the rest of it is NOT a joke, however!]

  37. yalensis says:

    Doing a bit more research on the “Samopomich” party. They are basically a West Ukrainian/Galicia party which shares votes with Svoboda. “Samo” are not as extreme as Svoboda, they are basically a “Bandera-lite” type fascist party.

    All in all, the new Ukrainian Rada has been dubbed “Fifty Shades of Brown”.

    (get it? – ha ha!)

    • kirill says:

      The excrement theme is appropriate. The name “Samopomich” is thick and rich. “Self Help” my ass. These are stooges of western powers and they have basically screwed over Ukraine. If these clowns want to go to work as janitors in the EU so bad, they should just go there illegally. They could eventually become legal like Mexican aliens in America.

  38. et Al says:

    First up, and known for leave no barrel unscraped is Shaun ‘Brain of the Dead’ Walker writing for:

    The Gardening Man: Ukraine election a win for president and allies, early count suggests
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/27/ukraine-election-presidents-allies-early-count-petro-poroshenko
    Partial count gives Yatseniyuk’s People’s Front a vote share of 21.57% and Poroshenko’s bloc 21.54%…

    …The result suggested that Poroshenko, a billionaire chocolate tycoon, would probably continue working in tandem with Yatsenyuk, who has been more hawkish on Russia than the president but is considered a safe pair of hands for the economy.
    ###

    From the comments:
    http://discussion.theguardian.com/comment-permalink/42790191
    “Beyond satire.”

    And in Syria news, the US military admitting its strategy has failed:

    Neuters: U.S. sees Syria rebels in political, not military solution: Asharq al-Awsat newspaper
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/27/us-mideast-crisis-syria-rebels-idUSKBN0IG0PV20141027
    The United States does not expect Syrian rebels it plans to train to fight Islamic State militants to also take on President Bashar al-Assad’s forces, but sees them as a crucial part of a political solution to end the war, a senior U.S. official said…

    …Asked whether those rebel Free Syrian Army (FSA) units would ultimately go on to fight Syrian government forces, John Allen, the U.S. representative to the coalition, told the Asharq al-Awsat daily:

    “No. What we would like to see is for the FSA and the forces that we will ultimately generate, train and equip to become the credible force that the Assad government ultimately has to acknowledge and recognize.”

    “There is not going to be a military solution here,” he added, in comments published at the weekend on the newspaper’s English language website…

    “But the intent is not to create a field force to liberate Damascus — that is not the intent,” Allen, a retired U.S. general, told the newspaper.

    “The intent is that in the political outcome, they must be a prominent – perhaps the preeminent voice – at the table to ultimately contribute to the political outcome that we seek,” he said at the start of a Middle East tour….
    ###

    No shit sherlock!

    I suspect that it is going to be a very, very cold winter this year. It’s been far too warm here in Europe and this is the last week of October. Whatever they are thinking of (a relative term) in Kiev, they’re in much worse trouble than they think.

  39. According to Finnish media Russia is suffering from a big brain drain.

    203,659 people moved out of Russia in January-November which is more than any other year during Vladimir Putin’s presidency. In fact more people moved out of Russia during the first seven months of this year than in any other full year since 2000.

    It looked as if Russia had managed to tackle the brain drain, but this year the the number of people emigrating has exploded.

    • Those figures are from the article itself. I did not check if they are correct or not. Can anyone clarify them from Rosstat?

    • This article from July talks about the same thing: http://thediplomat.com/2014/07/russian-emigration-spikes-in-2013-2014/

      What is worrisome is that the emigration figures seem to have multiplied in a year or two. This is not a modest increase, but a big spike in emigration. Many times more people are moving out of Russia now than three years ago.

      What does this actually tell?

      • patient observer says:

        It seems to be little more than a re-run of the same doom and gloom scenarios so beloved by Western media. Their brain-drain proof?
        “The brain drain problem is perhaps best typified by well-known Russians that have left the country recently: “Pavel Durov, the founder of Russia’s top social networking site VKontakte, prominent economist Sergei Guriyev and world chess champion turned opposition activist Garry Kasparov.””

        Perhaps Russia getting a little to hot for these wannabe western ass-kissers. In any event Russia remains the number two destination for immigration after the US.

        They also repeat the thoroughly discredited claim that Russia is undergoing a demographic collapse. Also, one of the linked articles made a sickening claim that while the Soviet Union had one of the leading roles in defeating Germany, they sacrificed 25 million of their own people in the process while the much more efficient western nations lost only a half-million or so to do the same. You see, it was actually Russia’s fault so many died and not a genocidal invading army or the fact 80-90% of the fighting occurred on the eastern front or that German military casualties were comparable to Russian military casualties.

        • cartman says:

          I remember the earlier spike was people leaving for other former Soviet republics and China. There was also some change in the way Rosstat records the census between 2010-12

        • kirill says:

          The WWII claim is a variant of the “human waves” trope. They just forgot to mention that the Germans together with their allies lost almost seven million soldiers while the number of Soviet soldiers who died was 9 million and includes the 3 million POWs who were either killed in the death camps (e.g. Auschwitz) or died of exposure in open air camps. German POWs of the Soviet army did not face 100% chance of death and about 20% of them died.

          As for civilian deaths, the WWII average was two civilians for every soldier. The losses in the USSR align perfectly with this statistic, 18 million civilian deaths for 9 million military deaths.

          It is routine in the western yapping about WWII not to count the dead Hungarians, Romanians, Croats, Italians and whatnot and only compare German to Soviet losses. But these wankers should take note that the USA had a hard time against the Germans in the west who were surrendering en masse to avoid being sent to the eastern front and who were ready to give up and let the Americans stall the Soviet advance. Using allied losses on the western front as a reference point for the eastern front is beyond retarded.

          These sick, racist, revisionist fuckers should just shut up. They have the IQ and knowledge of an under performing 8 year old.

        • marknesop says:

          Good. Let them go on broadcasting rubbish to the dullard masses that Russia is crippled and sinking – they they won’t think it is a big threat that needs an enormous budget to beat. They have been trolling the brain-drain story forever, but it just never seems to wear out; every couple of years if not even months, an article comes out in the Anglospheric press that “Russia’s best and brightest are leaving”.

          Pretty hard to make that case when they cite Garry Kasparov as an example. Yes, he was a brilliant chess player, but that appears to be all he knows and he is not a great intellect that Russia can ill afford to lose, to my way of thinking. Ditto Guriyev, who made some truly fantastic predictions that would have been right at home on the American Enterprise website. And turned out to be fantastically wrong. Nobody will miss an economist who is never right, even when he’s talking about events which have already happened.

        • “Perhaps Russia getting a little to hot for these wannabe western ass-kissers.”

          This is what I was thinking. Russia has not had any such socioeconomic setbacks that would explain a big spike in emigration figures. Maybe those who who are leaving now have lost their faith in political future of Russia?

          “In any event Russia remains the number two destination for immigration after the US.”

          These things (emigration and immigration) don’t necessarily balance each other out. Russia gets its immigrants mostly from Central Asian countries and they are usually not well educated. And those who emigrate Russia tend to be the well educated. I would guess that in terms of human capital it will be a big net loss.

          If that figure presented in the Finnish media is correct (over 200,000 emigrated from Russia thus far in this year) it should be a concern for Russian government, especially because the number of people emigrating has risen so sharply and because Russian economy is lacking qualified workforce . There seems to be a big and well educated group of people in Russia who are not happy there and vote with their feet.

      • Jen says:

        What The Diplomat article tells us is that if it can’t link to the actual official governments statistics website page or report from which it quotes, it’s probably not worth taking seriously.

        The spike in emigration could be people returning to China or former Soviet republics to celebrate Chinese New Year (usually late Jan – early Feb) or Persian New Year (March equinox) with their families if it’s happening in the first quarter of 2014. You would then expect an equally big spike in immigration in the same quarter and in the early half of the second quarter if that’s so.

  40. yalensis says:

    Porky’s son got elected to Parliament!
    I’m sorry, I know I am repeating myself, but I just can’t help pointing out that this “chip off the old block” has the physical appearance of of a complete wastrel, a rake, and possibly even a serial killer! Just look at that decadent sneer on his lily-white face.

    • yalensis says:

      P.S. Joke alluded to by one of the commenters:

      Q: Does the constitution allow the son of a Prime Minister to run for President?
      A: Not when the President already has his own son.

    • et Al says:

      Can his nickname be ‘Scratchy’ as in ‘pork scratchings’?

  41. yalensis says:

    Extry!
    Kolomoisky accuses Pork-Shanks of falsifying the vote!

    Benny’s second-in-command and alter ego, Boris Filatov, today accused Poroshenko’s party of fraud in the Dnipropetrovsk polling places. Boris says they (=Porky’s people) are continuing to hold back the counting of ballots in several large cities, including Krivoy Rog. He says there is eye-witness evidence of vote buying, falsifications, the use of camera phones to forge ballots [by photographing and then copying or printing?], etc etc.

    Boris says he tried to contact the prosecutor’s office, to let him know about these infringements, but he (the prosecutor) wouldn’t even pick up his phone. The other people he comlained to, just told them: “Stop over-dramatizing the situation.”

    The main take-away from Filatov’s rant is that Kolomoisky is upset with Poroshenko, there is some kind of feud going on between those two. Just like Benny vs. Lyashko. Or Benny vs. everybody else!

    • astabada says:

      the use of camera phones to forge ballots

      Dear yalensis,
      in some parts of Italy using phones to rig voting works as follows (somebody will take notes, I think). Before entering the voting section, some person hands you a nice shiny telephone, briefing you how to take a picture. Generally they don’t have to tell you which party to vote for, because you know already.

      (By the way these are not the sort of people you want to steal a telephone from, and generally they live in your block, so they know who you are, or otherwise know how to find out about you).

      When you exit, you present them with the telephone, with the photo of the vote you’ve just cast. Then everything is fine, you can continue your daily routine as if nothing had happened. In general if you vote wisely your health will stay stable, and your property will keep its value (for example it won’t suddenly break, burn, disappear et cetera).

      Don’t know if it’s the same in the Ukraine, though.

  42. yalensis says:

    Strelkov and El Muride claim that Ukie elections were falsified in favor of Yats .

    yalensis:
    I think their analysis is correct. Early in the voting, when he thought he was winning, Porky came out and claimed that his “victory” was a victory for the party of “peace”.
    Even though it is an exagerration to call Porky a “peace” candidate, it is possible that he IS tired of war and wants to just let things slide for a while, so he can go back to making money. Hence, his “victory”, if he had it, might indeed have been a signal that the Minsk “truce” might hold, at least for a while longer.

    However, once it transpired that this was actually Yatsenuk’s victory, that changes the equation. Because Yats has campaigned as a supporter of continuing the war against Novorossiya.
    If Muride’s analysis is correct, then Porky himself was robbed of a huge chunk of his votes!

    Returning to El Muride’s analysis from the linked piece:
    According to El Muride, as soon as the polling stations closed (in all places), men in balaclavas arrived, carrying boxes chock full of “correct” votes. The local election commissioners were told that they had to comply. The masked men knew the names and addresses of their wives, their children.

    Nobody resisted these threats except for one man, in the town of Obolonia. It was said that Avakov personally called this man and threatened him.

    Instantly, the press were given the “corrected” results of the exit-polls. The main parties who were robbed of votes were Poroshenko, Lyashko, and the “Samopomich” party of Sadovy.
    Each of the above 3 politicians was forced to sacrifice a portion of their votes, in favour of Yats.

    “Poroshenko is enraged, but there is nothing he can do about it. Just a week ago, [American Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey] Pyatt made a cryptic but vaguely threatening statement, to the effect that America would not tolerate any dissensions or protests against the vote.”

    El Muride goes on to prognose that the 3 victors (Porky, Yats and Avakov) will divide the spoils, with all 3 retaining their current jobs and positions. A juicy post must also be found for Turchynov.

    • yalensis says:

      P.S. –
      If El Muride’s analysis is correct, which I believe it is, then the main take-away is this:
      The Americans have decided to continue the war against Novorossiya.
      This is why they placed Yats/Avakov to counter Porky, who was maybe willing to just let things slide and “give peace a chance”.

      Hence, expect military operations, and the next offensive against Donetsk, to resume very shortly.

      • marknesop says:

        Shocking!! Corruption, in Ukraine? Does Chornovol know about this? She’ll soon clear all this up. And to think it allegedly favours the U.S. State Department’s preferred candidate! It has to be coincidence. Yatsenyuk would not look good on a stamp – he has a face like a vole. Not a cute one, either. Like a drug-addict bank robber vole.

        I frankly doubt there will be a resumption of the civil war on any serious scale, not like it was just before the ceasefire, when Ukraine was throwing everything it had at Donetsk. They have to know they cannot win militarily, and they blew all the money they were given on trying. Unless they can find some Middle Eastern sugar daddies like the ones who offered to bankroll Obama’s cruise-missile strike on Syria, they don’t have the cash to do it on a scale more threatening than a sick cat. Porky’s plan to lure the east back through fabulous prosperity in Ukraine is delusional, but it makes more sense than trying to take it back by force. And if they can’t get it back – as the guys who were the government two weeks ago acknowledged they can’t – no IMF money in any serious amount, because there would be no good prospects of ever seeing it again. Further military action against the east would be just working out bitterness and balked fury, neither of which has any place in a truly reconciliatory government, and would not achieve anything constructive even if Ukraine could afford to bankroll it, which it can’t.

  43. Moscow Exile says:

    I think the site is under attack.

    Strange thing happening: cannot link in to past comments at top right, where there is just a list of links to comments in threads long gone.

    • marknesop says:

      Nope; that’s Anatoly, linking a bunch of stuff to Da Russophile from old posts.

      • AKarlin says:

        Sorry if anything strange went down. I was just doing some tidying up on DR in preparation for archiving it, which involved updating a lot of posts with their proper categories/tags/author labels, so that was probably the cause of any inconveniences here. I also merged all the The Russian Spectrum posts into Da Russophile.

        About the blog itself – I’ll have one last demographics update, then the farewell post itself. The blog itself will stay online of course – I devoted far too much time to simply have it vanish – but there will be no new material except for the very occasional update (say, if I ever do manage to finish Dark Lord of the Kremlin). Any future writing of mine on Russia will be either at http://akarlin.com/ or on other websites/journals/etc.

        Thank you all for commenting at Da Russophile.

        • marknesop says:

          Not at all, Anatoly; it’s always good to hear from you. Da Russophile is a great blog, and I’m sorry to see it go although I understand you are busy and know how much time it takes – I have only this one and it’s all I can do to stay reasonably current. I’m sure others here join me in looking forward to seeing you at your other sites and publications, and I’ll be sure to update my links. Geroyim slava!!

  44. et Al says:

    So, the Moscow Slimes has given up!

    Dear reader,

    Due to the increasing number of users engaging in personal attacks, spam, trolling and abusive comments, we are no longer able to host our forum as a site for constructive and intelligent debate.

    It is with regret, therefore, that we have found ourselves forced to suspend the commenting function on our articles.

    The Moscow Times remains committed to the principle of public debate and hopes to welcome you to a new, constructive, forum in the future.

    Regards,

    The Moscow Times
    ###

    Considering that by far the most comments were russophobic and bigoted, and rarely ‘constructive or intelligent’, I am surprised that they see this as a bad thing. Methinks MT is being a tad dishonest here. The simply refuse to pay above a set (obviously very low) limit to moderate their pitiful comments section. An extremely dumb move on their part as traffic will go elsewhere. Hopefully it will be the start of its own death which they will no doubt blame upon the pressure brought to bear against them by the Kremlin. Despite the odd reasonable article, may it Go To Hell (as in out of existence) and stay there.

  45. et Al says:

    The Beagle: Chief MH17 Investigator on German Claims: ‘We Will Need Evidence’
    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/mh17-chief-investigator-says-no-actionable-evidence-yet-in-probe-a-999485.html
    In an interview, the Dutch official leading the investigation of the crash of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 over eastern Ukraine addresses reports that German intelligence is convinced the plane got shot down by pro-Russian separatists.

    SPIEGEL: Germany’s foreign intelligence agency, the Bundesnachrichtendienst (BND), believes that pro-Russian separatists shot down the aircraft with surface-to-air missiles. A short time ago, several members of the German parliament were presented with relevant satellite images. Are you familiar with these photos?

    Westerbeke: Unfortunately we are not aware of the specific images in question. The problem is that there are many different satellite images. Some can be found on the Internet, whereas others originate from foreign intelligence services.

    SPIEGEL: High-resolution images — those from US spy satellites, for example — could play a decisive role in the investigation. Have the Americans provided you with those images?

    Westerbeke: We are not certain whether we already have everything or if there are more — information that is possibly even more specific. In any case, what we do have is insufficient for drawing any conclusions. We remain in contact with the United States in order to receive satellite photos.

    SPIEGEL: So you’re saying there hasn’t been any watertight evidence so far?

    Westerbeke: No. If you read the newspapers, though, they suggest it has always been obvious what happened to the airplane and who is responsible. But if we in fact do want to try the perpetrators in court, then we will need evidence and more than a recorded phone call from the Internet or photos from the crash site. That’s why we are considering several scenarios and not just one.

    SPIEGEL: Moscow has been spreading its own version for some time now, namely that the passenger jet was shot down by a Ukrainian fighter jet. Do you believe such a scenario is possible?

    Westerbeke: Going by the intelligence available, it is my opinion that a shooting down by a surface to air missile remains the most likely scenario. But we are not closing our eyes to the possibility that things might have happened differently.
    ###

    I don’t normally post whole articles, but this is an exception. Poor Spiegel caught no fish!
    I agree that the most likely scenario is downing by a BUK, but whose and the sequence of events are still very open.

    • marknesop says:

      I have to say that in the minifilm “MH-17 – Untold Story” the German former pilot was extremely compelling. Especially intriguing – for me, because it was new to me – was the revelation that the combat ceiling for the SU-25 had been altered in references on the internet so as to make it appear it could not fly anywhere near as high as it actually can. What logical reason could there be for doing that? Also, as I mentioned earlier, the cannon-fire experiment done by the Russian Air Force yielded shell holes in airframes which look startlingly like those in the cockpit area of MH-17, especially the exit holes. There would not be both exit and entry damage on the same side in the event of a missile warhead explosion: this is impossible unless there was more than one missile. Additionally, eyewitnesses who examined the wreckage of the cockpit said the interior was a bloodbath, like a slaughterhouse. None of the passengers appeared to be shot up or otherwise to have bled a great deal from being struck by projectiles. The Dutch conceded they were analyzing fragments in the bodies of flight crew, and those should prove enlightening if the results are ever actually released.

      I am not greatly encouraged by what the Dutch say here, because they’re saying what they have to say – we’re weighing all the options and we’re being guided by the evidence – in order to appear impartial. But I have no confidence they actually will be, and I expect a whitewash leaning heavily on the “We may never know” scenario.

      It is interesting to see that The Chicago Tribune picked up the story, with amplifying data that the Dutch investigators will ask Moscow for its evidence which it says proves there was another aircraft in the vicinity.

      http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/545/article/p2p-81795764/

      In a normal climate this might indicate the beginning of acceptance, but with things as polarized as they are now I suspect the Dutch just want to assess how confident Moscow is – after all, the investigators should already have all that evidence – to explore the possibility of discrediting it.

      • davidt says:

        What is most interesting to me is that the US has not provided any intelligence to the Dutch:
        http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2014/09/dutch-mh17-investigation-omits-us-intel.html
        Yes, the Dutch are so open minded that, when preparing the preliminary report, they did not speak to Russian experts, spending 3 weeks in Kiev instead. (This is according to Lavrov.) That certainly is using your time wisely.

      • Jen says:

        Another report, this time from The Melbourne Age, which is repetitive unfortunately but noteworthy for its first two paragraphs and the last paragraph:
        http://www.theage.com.au/world/mh17-crash-dutch-prosecutors-to-ask-russia-for-proof-fighter-shot-jet-passenger-down-20141028-11cqhx.html

        The Dutch investigators are now leaning towards the scenario that Ukie fighter jets shot down MH17 while covering their bums by saying that the BUK missile was more likely to have brought down the Boeing. They are under pressure from their own politicians and from victims’ families to get moving and say something more definite about the perpetrators. (They’ll have to wait until the Ukrainian Rada election results have all been finalised bar the odd fight, assassination and “disappearance” or two.)

        • marknesop says:

          And again, sorry, I’m probably being a pessimist, but I believe the Dutch want to see the Russian evidence only so they can explore it for the possibility of discrediting it.

          • Fern says:

            You’re probably right but these latest reports suggest that the relatives of those killed on the flight are now starting to press for answers. There have been many other instances where pressure from the families and friends of people killed in disasters has brought truth to light. Those who died on MH17 were largely middle class, educated professionals – their relatives know how to organise, how to campaign. I can’t see them being fobbed off as easily as western MSM journalists have been.

            • Jen says:

              The Dutch investigators better hope and pray that the relatives of the Dutch victims never discover and contact the German aviation law expert Elmar Giemulla.

  46. ThatJ says:

    In Historic Shift, NATO-Member Poland Is Moving Thousands Of Troops To Its Eastern Border

    In the first sign that, just in time for winter, the tentative European jawboning alliance against Russia is collapsing (since the “costs”, sanctions and other economic means inflicted upon the Kremlin ended up backfiring and pushing Europe into a triple-dip recession instead), earlier today Poland announced that it will move thousands of troops toward its eastern borders, i.e., Ukraine, in what AP dubbed a “historic realignment of a military structure built in the Cold War.”

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-27/historic-shift-nato-member-poland-moving-thousands-troops-its-eastern-border

    U.S. and EU hail pro-West election outcome in Ukraine, Russia guarded

    (Reuters) – Pro-Western parties will dominate Ukraine’s parliament after an election handed President Petro Poroshenko a mandate to end a separatist conflict and to steer the country further away from Russia’s orbit towards mainstream Europe.

    U.S. President Barack Obama hailed Sunday’s election as “an important milestone in Ukraine’s democratic development” while top European Union officials said on Monday it represented a “victory of the people of Ukraine and of democracy”.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/27/us-ukraine-crisis-election-idUSKCN0IF00R20141027

    When Stress Tests Fail – Italian Banks Are Collapsing

    Despite the ban on short-sales – which has never worked in the past to do anything but instil fear in traders’ holding long positions – Italian banks are in free-fall following the utter failure of Draghi’s stress tests to encourage confidence in the European banking system.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-27/when-stress-tests-fail-italian-banks-are-collapsing

    • marknesop says:

      On Poland, my first thought was the same as that of a ZeroHedge commenter – that rather than being deliberately provocative towards Russia, Poland fears an inrush of Ukrainian refugees which will strain its social safety net past the breaking point.

      On the election, the papers are beginning to strain the limits of amusement in their acrobatics to avoid the term “oligarch” as applied to Poroshenko. Realizing that “tycoon” has had a bit of a workout of late and is beginning to attract ridicule, the writer has opted for “confectionery magnate”. Hilarious.

    • Fern says:

      How many mile(stones) to Babylon? Since Ukraine has been holding elections pretty often since independence following the break-up of the Soviet Union, I’m struggling to see how this one is somehow more ‘democratic’ than earlier ones, particularly given the turnout and the fact, largely ignored by the MSM, that the Communist Party is banned and the Party of Regions largely intimidated out of existence so it’s not really possible to vote for an opposition party.

  47. Moscow Exile says:

    Fun and games at the Shitty Schuster Show!

    Oleh Lyashko is called swindler and a homosexual!

    In the studio, there are commanders of “Battalions” and police Colonel Andrey Anatolievich Teteruk addresses the audience – in Russian: Lyashko mouths it off to him in his peasant tongue.

    “And who exactly might you be?” says Radical Party leader Lyashko in an affected manner.

    “The commander of ‘Peacemaker’ Battalion’, police Colonel Andrey Anatolievich Teteruk, and we are specifically checking you out”, warned the colonel.

    “There’s no need to threaten me here! Every week I’m at the front”, says Lyashko

    “According to what you say!” answers Teteruk and states that people like Lyashko should not be allowed in the Parliament building, not even to approach its threshold.

    Lyashko begins to list off commanders of the units according to their “merits”.

    Semen Semenchenko then comes from the auditorium to help his comrades out.

    “Respected Lyashko, the time for clowning is over.Your time has expired”, says the head of the “Donbas Batallion” in Russian. “You are a swindler and a crook. The ‘Ukraine Battalion’ does not exist and never has. The people have had time to evaluate your trustworthiness and no one trusts you.”

    Lyashko begins to curse. Teteruk asks him not to mention God’s name when discussing worldly things and Semenchenko immediately brings into the discussion Lyashko’s sexual orientation.

    “You changed the orientation given to you by God” says Semen Semenchenko to Lyashko.

    The squabbling continues. Schuster the Shit says the dialogue is now hitting below the belt and the audience applauses.

    What a shower of delinquents!

    • Fern says:

      Gosh (said channelling Lady Ashton), that’s torn it. Doesn’t this fool know that while Europe is perfectly willing to turn a blind eye to Maidan snipers, Odessa arsonists, indiscriminate shelling of civilians, the use of ballistic missiles against cities and the largest refugee crisis since the end of WW2, it will draw the line at homophobia?

  48. ThatJ says:

    7 Things The Middle-Class Can’t Afford Anymore

    Though there is some debate over the exact income a middle class household brings in, we do have an idea of who the middle class are — most working class people. Today’s bourgeoisie is composed of laborers and skilled workers, white collar and blue collar workers, many of whom face financial challenges. Bill Maher reminded us a few months back that 50 years ago, the largest employer was General Motors, where workers earned an equivalent of $50 per hour (in today’s money). Today, the largest employer — Wal-Mart — pays around $8 per hour.

    The middle class has certainly changed. We’ve ranked a list of things the middle class can no longer really afford. We’re not talking about lavish luxuries, like private jets and yachts. The items on this list are a bit more basic, and some of them are even necessities. The ranking of this list is based on affordability and necessity. Therefore, items that are necessity ranked higher, as did items that a larger percentage of people have trouble paying for.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-27/7-things-middle-class-cant-afford-anymore

    Quantitative Easing Is Like “Treating Cancer With Aspirin”

    Shortly before leaving the Fed this year, Ben Bernanke rather pompously declared that Quantitative Easing “works in practice, but it doesn’t work in theory.”

    There is, of course, no counter-factual.

    We’ll never know what might have happened if the world’s central banks had not thrown trillions of dollars at the banking system, and instead let the free market work its magic on an overleveraged financial system.

    But to suggest credibly that QE has worked, we first have to agree on a definition of what “work” means, and on what problem QE was meant to solve.

    If the objective of QE was to drive down longer term interest rates, given that short term rates were already at zero, then we would have to concede that in this somewhat narrow context, QE has “worked”.

    But we doubt whether that objective was front and centre for those people – we could variously call them “savers”, “investors”, or “honest workers”.

    As James Grant recently observed, it’s quite remarkable how, thus far, savers in particular have largely suffered in silence.

    So while QE has “succeeded” in driving down interest rates, the problem isn’t that interest rates were / are too high.

    Quite the reverse: interest rates are clearly too low – at least for savers.

    All the way out to 3-year maturities, investors in German government bonds, for example, are now faced with negative interest rates. And still they’re buying.

    This isn’t monetary policy success; this is madness.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-27/quantitative-easing-treating-cancer-aspirin

  49. marknesop says:

    Returning to MH-17, the west must really be taking seriously the possibility that a Ukrainian jet shot down the airliner, because they have rolled out The Hero Of Damascus, the famed “Brown Moses”, Eliot Higgins to discredit the theory, or at least to so thoroughly confuse interested parties with his left-field musings and obfuscations that they will give it all up as a bad job.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/rt-mh-17-propaganda-2014-10

    Thrill to Higgins’s musings on the nature of holes! Be amazed as he triumphantly announces the holes in MH-17 are a different size, ergo it could not have been cannon fire as the Russian experiment suggests (blithely ignoring that MH-17 fell from 33,000 ft as well as being shot up, while the target aircraft in the experiment just sat on the ground). Oh, and he is estimating the size of the holes by eyeballing them on pictures. He has no idea how big the holes in either example are.

    • Southerncross says:

      I’d just like to remind everyone that Eliott Piggins is an unemployed media studies dropout who spends his abundant free time playing video games instead of learning Arabic, studying chemistry or attempting to lose weight.

      Remember that his methodology boils down to:

      When not engaging in research so half-arsed it would embarrass a third former, he enjoys harassing blogger SyrianGirl. Piggins hates her because she, an aspiring quantum chemist undoubtedly better-looking than Piggins’ gainfully employed wife, posted some youtube vids demonstrating that Piggins was full of shit.

      (Skip to about 18:00 or so)

      Piggins had his buddy Dan Kaszeta call her university to accuse her of trying to use the uni chemistry lab facilities to prepare a chemical weapon.

      Until very recently, Piggins was glad to count world-class shithead Robert Caruso among his contributors. For those of you not familiar with Caruso:

      http://www.activistpost.com/2014/10/mainstream-journalist-reveals-agenda.html

      And despite his notoriety, Eliott Piggins is so poorly-regarded by the powers he serves that he has to beg for money on Kickstarter like a conman or an independent film director.

    • kirill says:

      As a physicist I see no inconsistency between the obvious exit holes in the MH-17 section and the Russian test. You will note that the Russian test had a few entry holes. MH-17 could have been riddle with cannon rounds, so the density of exit holes would be much higher.

      At least Russia has done an experiment for the world to see. All that Washington’s minions have is some top secret ATC tapes from Borisopol and an NDA agreement with veto rights signed by Holland, Ukraine and the rest of the Washington stooge states. What a total fucking joke of a coverup.

      • marknesop says:

        He seems to be highlighting that the entry holes in the scrapped fighter used as a test platform are larger than the entry holes in MH-17. But some entry holes are likely made by debris, and the exit holes look virtually identical. I’d guess – without checking – that the skin of an airliner is likely thicker and more resistant to deformation. Fighters are not meant to be hit, there is no sense making an armored fighter or it would be too heavy to fly.

        All of the narrative now, though, is dedicated to pouring ridicule on the Russian contention that a fighter plane could have done it. There have been no further efforts to prove it was an SA-11 although some serious inconsistencies have been introduced. They just keep saying it was, as if repetition will make it so. And all the while the investigation is under a cloud of complete secrecy – except for the little gang allowed to see the results as the investigation progresses, one of which members is a suspect.

    • Jen says:

      It obviously does not occur to Brown Noses Higgins that when cannon fire is concentrated on parts of the cockpit, some holes inevitably become enlarged from being chewed out by multiple bullets. For him, cannonfire does not strike the same spot twice.

      • marknesop says:

        In his examples he seems to be pointing to panels near the nose, or perhaps even underneath it, which were not the focus of direct fire and are therefore susceptible to being hit by shrapnel and small, harder pieces of the frame. The entry holes in the critical area – the cockpit surround – look just as big to me and there is as yet no satisfactory explanation for why there are entry and exit holes in the same panel.

        The Ukies probably thought – naively – that all the evidence would be destroyed by fire. When that did not happen they shelled the wreckage like madmen, hoping to introduce confusion. But the cockpit panel was displayed and photographed early, I think within a day or two of the crash. Global Research has a great high-res shot of it which was used in analysis.

        There is also a pile of photos here; note that no other pieces of the plane show significant damage except the obvious – being ripped apart. No holes that look like they were made by “high-speed projectiles”. There’s no way that was a missile.

        • yalensis says:

          One commenter on militaryphotos commented that plane has 2 layers of skin: a thinner one on the outside, and a thicker one on the inside. (I don’t know if this is true or not, I’m just repeating what he said.)

          When a bullet enters the thinner outer layer, it would puncture a hole having edges bending inward, as one would expect. When the bullet reaches the thicker outer layer, it meets more resistance and slows down, causing a puffy effect and crenelling. Some of those holes might look like exit holes to the untrained eyes because they are puffy; but in reality they are entry holes.

          I believe that was his argument. Can’t find that particular thread any more, it was many many pages back.

        • yalensis says:

          The cockpit is the main piece of evidence in this crime. Nothing else has remotely as much value. The cockpit should have been secured and taken to a lab right away.
          The only other valuable forensic evidence would have been the bodies of the pilots, and nobody is saying a word about what happened to that evidence.

          Nothing else in the crash has much value, forensically. The investigators spent too much time examining the bodies of the passengers. Those bodies have no value forensically, all they show is what happens to a human body when it falls to the ground from a great height. The bodies should have been just collected and returned to the families as soon as possible, there was literally no need to examine them.

          • yalensis says:

            Yeah, and the Ukies shelling the site trying to destroy the evidence – that was also a bit of buffoonery. It would have made sense only if they could have lobbed a shell right onto the cockpit and destroyed that main piece of evidence. And Ukies had already proved that they can’t shoot straight.

            • marknesop says:

              They only have to prove there was shelling in the area at a time while the wreckage was there, but before the investigators showed up, and that some of the ordnance was light stuff like 30mm. Voila! those holes were made after the wreckage landed.

          • marknesop says:

            Well, the entire plane has value, and everything in it, from at least the perspective of showing what’s not there: the signs of a large aircraft which was the victim of attack from a fairly large surface-to-air missile. They will find, I believe, that the focus of attack was the cockpit, and find relatively little strike damage anywhere else, all of which might be explained by strike damage from fragments and ricochets. That’s unless their was another air-to-air attack. Some analysts suggest the tail was also blown off, but I would remind that this is some 200 feet away on a 777, and it is unimaginable the same weapon that chewed up the cockpit, in the same attack, caused the tail to blow off but did not harm any of the airframe in between. The tail came to earth so far from where the cockpit did that I have my doubts about that, too, but we will see.

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