What if Trump Were Running Against Putin? The Struggle to Sell Clinton as a Democratic Inevitability.

Uncle Volodya says, "And thus I clothe my naked villainy With odd old ends stol'n out of holy writ; And seem a saint, when most I play the devil.”

Uncle Volodya says, “And thus I clothe my naked villainy, with odd old ends stol’n out of holy writ; and seem a saint, when most I play the devil.”

The fortuitous discovery of perhaps thousands of emails exchanged with Hillary Clinton’s private email server, recovered from the computer belonging to sexual cluster bomb Anthony Weiner and his estranged missus – Clinton Chief of Staff and vice-chair of her election campaign Huma Abedin – has once again interrupted the manufactured momentum of Clinton inevitability. First and foremost, it reemphasizes the transient nature of Clinton’s understanding of ‘truth’; she clearly did not turn over to the FBI all emails on the server which were not of a personal nature. Or perhaps it is the concept of ‘personal’ with which she has an imperfect understanding, so that it includes ‘things which might get me in trouble’.

Several sites have attempted to make sense of this election campaign, which is noteworthy as it pits perhaps the two most despised people in America against one another for the increasingly tawdry prize of President of the United States. Let me say that again – the only thing unusual in these times of negative campaigning and character assassination is that a popular candidate has not emerged – it remains to be determined only who is less hated. Anyway, of those sites, the best I have seen can be found at the Archdruid Report (thanks, Cortes); poignantly entitled, “The Last Gasp of the American Dream”, it is at pains to explain – among other things – that the claim this is the most important election in American history is simply a flailing attempt to lend some dignity and appearance of deliberation to a process that has become nine parts entertainment mixed with one part immature graduation kegger. There’s an old military parable which is a cruder analogy of “You can’t put lipstick on a pig”, and it’s, “You can’t buff a turd”.  It is, frankly, impossible to invest the ongoing election process in America with anything like dignity, and it is instead increasingly apparent to uncomfortable Americans and gobsmacked internationals that it is a desperate contest by a serial liar to prevent an interloper from outside the insular American political class from occupying the highest office. The Clinton campaign’s subtext that repudiating Clinton is spitting in the face of women everywhere is a cheap trick – no further demonstrations are necessary to prove women can do anything men can do which does not require superior upper-body strength, and there are a few women who can do even that. Speaking in the broadest and most general terms, there are some fields in which women are a little better than men, and some in which they generally do not perform as well. But there are virtually none women just can’t do, and it should be clear that gender has nothing to do with a natural ability to assume the office of president.

Having led in with that, we’re going to change direction a little. Things here generally have a Russian angle, and this is no exception. We’ve all seen the ludicrous accusations that Russia is backing Donald Trump, and is inveigling to rig the election for him – might even tamper with the votes counted by voting machines which are not connected to the internet, while Moscow feeds Trump a steady stream of hacked emails it steals from honest politicians, which begs the question of how they could be incriminating if that were the case. But that’s not the angle I want to look at, either. Nope – what I’d like to review today is the unremitting demonization and public vilification of Donald Trump, in the framework of America’s political dissections of how autocratic and savage Russia treats its political opposition. So what I’d like you to imagine is that Donald Trump is running against Vladimir Putin, for the presidency of the Russian Federation.

In 2007, onetime chess champion and part-time aggrieved political dreamer Garry Kasparov told the New York Times that the Russian government led by Vladimir Putin had blocked his presidential run by putting the word out that nobody in Moscow was allowed to rent a building to him, so that he and his unregistered political organization could hold a nominating convention, without which he could not register as a candidate. Since those who own such buildings in Moscow take their rental orders directly from the Kremlin, it is impossible to imagine they just don’t like Kasparov and don’t want to rent to him; no,  “It was clear that there had been an order from above to prohibit us from gathering anywhere.” Couldn’t have had anything to do with his holding Bosnian citizenship at the time and living in New York.

What would the New York Times think, I wonder, about an article in Russian activist media which suggested Garry Kasparov was a threat to Russian national security because of a comment he had made about another politician’s dangerous access to classified information, owing to his inability to control his sexual appetites? An article which went on to say that since Garry Kasparov had had a number of affairs and bragged about them, he was in effect admitting that he himself was a national security risk? That’s the article RedState published on Donald Trump. Who was the politician he assessed had dangerous access to privileged information? Anthony Wiener. Was Trump right? You tell me.

In 2014, Russian real-estate lawyer and self-professed anti-corruption activist Alexei Navalny was arrested for breaking the conditions of his house arrest by appearing at a demonstration. The Washington Post was openly admiring of his chutzpah. When he was given a suspended sentence with no jail time for a fraud conviction, State Department spokesman Jeff Rathke called the Moscow court decisions a “disturbing development designed to punish and deter political activism.” The following year, the daring political activist sawed off his ankle bracelet and announced he would not comply with the conditions of his house arrest, and he was fined the equivalent sum of $10.00 for destroying state property. Barbarism!!

I wonder what those publications would think about an article in the Russian press which announced that Alexei Navalny might be sent to prison for three years because the registration on his private jet had expired three months before. An article that managed to work in the opinion that Alexei Navalny was an odd colour. I suspect they might scream as if they were being microwaved alive.

Look, you get it. The American press demands the coddling of opposition politicians in Russia to the extent that the ruling government must almost help them win, while at home a standard prevails which mocks and reviles the political opposition in everything from ads for underwear which will let women menstruate on a picture of Trump’s face to articles which announce the dropping of a rape lawsuit against him as if it were affirmation of his guilt.

“Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. If national pride is ever justifiable or excusable it is when it springs, not from power or riches, grandeur or glory, but from conviction of national innocence, information, and benevolence. Officeholders are the agents of the people, not their masters.” Once the possibility of holding influential public office in the United States of America uplifted, inspired. Now, as the character of Colonel Nathan Jessup spits in “A Few Good Men”, politics is a punchline.

That might not be so hard to understand if America did not have such lofty democratic demands of its enemies.


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1,649 Responses to What if Trump Were Running Against Putin? The Struggle to Sell Clinton as a Democratic Inevitability.

  1. Moscow Exile says:

    From today’s UK Telegraph:

    Moscow’s jet set in shock as Russia’s ‘Lady Di’ dies in Swiss car crash

    27 NOVEMBER 2016 • 2:13PM
    Russia’s jet-setting social elite have been left in shock after the glamorous granddaughter of a Russian billionaire who was controversially jailed after falling out with Vladimir Putin died in a car crash in Switzerland.

    Diana Lebedeva, 19, died when the luxury BMW she was travelling in spun out of control and crashed into a lake in the early hours of Thursday morning, Swiss and Russian authorities have confirmed.

    Bugger all in the Kremlin controlled media about Lebedeva’s death.

    Checked out Yandex search for news of her death: sweet FA, though there are links to Instagram and vKontakte (Russia’s most popular social network) about her.

    Clearly the Kremlin controlled media considers her sad demise not newsworthy enough for all the stupid Russians here.

    • kirill says:

      Well, that just proves Putin did it.

      • Moscow Exile says:

        Clearly so! After all, according to the Telegraph Putin had “controversially jailed” her grandfather after he had had words with the evil swine.

        Nothing at all to do with the Lebedev, former CEO of Menatep, having been found guilty of tax evasion, embezzlement and money laundering.

      • Jen says:

        All that remains is for VVP to explain how he managed to tamper with the BMW’s brakes even though he was nowhere near Switzerland before the accident happened.

        Seriously though, gotta wonder what Lebedeva and her boyfriend were doing speeding around the lake after midnight and before daylight on Thursday morning.

    • marknesop says:

      Similarly, her only similarity to ‘Lady Di’ was her death in a car crash.

  2. kirill says:

    NATzO propaganda causes brain damage.

  3. davidt says:

    From Fort Russ, this is wonderful:

  4. Moscow Exile says:

    Russian flash-mob at the Kievskiy Terminus, Moscow, singing Ukrainian folk song with their Ukrainian friends:

    This is all Sovok propaganda, I tell you!!!!!!


  5. ucgsblog says:

    Rosie O’Donnell hits new low by deliberately placing Trump’s son in the spotlight, by claiming that he’s autistic, and she’s just doing that to raise autism awareness. I don’t usually post the Daily Fail, but since Rosie was being a bitch to a kid and hates the source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3975150/Rosie-O-Donnell-defends-speculating-Barron-Trump-autistic-revealing-daughter-3-condition-furious-backlash-parents.html?ito=social-facebook

    “The comedian penned an emotional message to fans on her website on Saturday after sparking fury among Twitter followers earlier in the week when she shared a video which suggested the president-elect’s 10-year-old son is autistic. Insisting that her post was ‘from the heart’, she said it had ‘nothing’ to do with her old foe Donald Trump. ‘I have no ill will for his children or any children,’ said O’Donnell, adding that her own daughter, three-year-old Dakota, was diagnosed with high functioning autism in September. The row began on Monday when O’Donnell shared an anti-bullying video of Trump’s son. It speculated that he may be autistic based on the way he clapped during an appearance at the Democratic National Convention.”

    Of course the problem is that if you shine any light, especially the spotlight, on autistic kids, it can drive them insane. Doing so to Trump’s kid is simply taking sour grapes to new heights. Apparently nothing is sacred anymore, not even kids. It’s not the first time that Trump’s children were attacked, as there as an article portraying Ivanka as “having a conflict of interest” for advertising accessories she owned, during an interview that she was invited to give. Another portrayed Eric as controlling, when he went to vote with his wife. Naturally the people were less than pleased:

    “Rosie, as a parent of a child with autism – I am extremely insulted. This wasn’t meant to help raise awareness. Just plain cruel,” said one. “I am the mom of an 11 yr old with ASD and I am in tears that Rosie did this!! Shame on her!!”

    “Is Rosie O’Donnell really going after Barron Trump? That’s low even for her. Attacking children bc you don’t like their parent (s) is wrong. I think it’s disgusting and evil what Rosie O’Donnell said about Trump’s son. It’s one thing to attack a politician but it’s evil to attack their children”

    O’Donnell claimed that she shined the spotlight on an allegedly autistic kid out of well-wishes, and that it was entirely independent of her political beliefs…

  6. Cortes says:

    More on Propornot:


    When writers such as Roberts are included as Stooges the narrative has clearly slipped the leash.

    • marknesop says:

      It occurs to me that the outcry against Propornot is giving it lots of free publicity. However, I no longer feel slighted at being left out; Glenn Greenwald and The Intercept was also not included, and I venture to say Glenn Greenwald blows the doors off most of the sites that made the cut.

      • Jen says:

        Yes but KS isn’t owned by a billionaire who’s admitted to ponying up money for Victoria’s Nuland cash’n’cookies donation drive for Ukraine.

        • yalensis says:

          You don’t know for a fact that Mark is not a billionaire.
          He claims to be as poor as a churchmouse, but he could be lying!

          • marknesop says:

            Yes, I was going to mention that – I don’t recall ever claiming to not be a billionaire, although I don’t think I ever claimed to be poor, either- but I was confused as to whom Jen was actually referring to. Glenn Greenwald is a billionaire who covertly supports Victoria Nuland?

            • shargash says:

              The Intercept is a vanity project of billionaire interventionist PIerre Omidyar. Omidyar seems to be something of a George-Soros-wannabe.

              • marknesop says:

                Interesting; I didn’t know that, although I have of course heard of him.

                Perhaps that’s why it was not mentioned, then; I mean, Glenn Greenwald? Edward Snowden? Come on.

          • Jen says:

            The Intercept was set up by Glenn Greenwald, Laura Poitras and Jeremy Scahill (and Greenwald and Scahill are its editors as well) but it is financed by Pierre Omidyar through First Look Media.

            I thought Mark claimed to live in a nice house in Vancouver – he had photos of it on the blog – but I suppose for all I know his entire family including the in-laws actually live under the floorboards and only come out at night to take food out of the pantry while the family living above who own the house are fast asleep.

            • marknesop says:

              I live in Victoria. And the house is built into the side of a hill, so the crawlspace underneath is probably about 10 feet high on the downhill side. So plenty of room down below for the in-laws if I chose to put them there. But we get along very well, a big happy family. They had a suite downstairs in the last house we lived in, but this time around they just have their own bedroom and share all the common areas.

  7. Patient Observer says:

    Liberation of Aleppo seems to be going well:


    In just two days, the Syrian Army liberated five blocks – 2,000 buildings – in rebel-held eastern Aleppo, the Russian Center for Reconciliation in Syria reported. Over 900 civilians, including 119 children, have escaped in the last 24 hours.

    “Only in the last 24 hours, 903 civilians, including 119 children, have left the militant-held area of Jabal Badro. Eight militants have ended resistance and left the eastern part of the city using the corridors provided by the Russian center for reconciliation and by the Syrian authorities,” a statement by the Reconciliation Center said.

    On Sunday, Syria’s SANA news agency reported, citing a military source, that the Syrian Army established full control over the Jabal Badro neighborhood in Aleppo.

    On Saturday, it also reported that government forces captured the Masaken Hanano neighbourhood and the surrounding area.

    The Syrian Army is now conducting a large-scale clearance operation in the Masaken Hanano district, where terrorists from Al-Nusra Front and other radical groups mined buildings and roads to prevent civilians from fleeing the area through humanitarian corridors established by government forces.

    At the same time, about 1,500 civilians, mostly women and children, managed to flee from the eastern Aleppo districts controlled by militants to the government-held areas, through the newly-recaptured Masaken Hanano district, SANA news agency reports.

    It was also reported that the terrorists are turning on each other – those who wish to take the escape route offered by the Syrian army are attacked by those who seek martyrdom. I’m sticking with December as the month Aleppo is fully liberated.

  8. kirill says:

    I no longer watch the CBC and only occasionally visit their website.

    • marknesop says:

      This implies that Syrian government forces are advancing to murder and destroy, while the gallant rebels are protecting the civilian population. Disgusting.

      • kirill says:

        The CBC never mentions that over six times more civilians are in the government controlled parts of Aleppo City than in the jihadi parts. This fact by itself would render their blood libel narrative null and void. Trying to paint the government forces as besieging “Aleppo” is pure 1984 propaganda. The NATzO media is firmly planted in the septic tank of propaganda and nonsense.

        • Patient Observer says:

          If its any consolation, nothing, nothing can beat NBC news for lies piled on lies.

        • Chinese American says:

          As yesterday revealed, it’s more like fifty times more civilians instead of six times. Over a third of the eastern Aleppo pocket have been liberated in the last few days, and the highest estimate of the number of civilians found so far is about 10,000, as far as I’ve seen. Are all the rest packed into the southern half of the pocket? The “quarter of a million” number that have been repeated endlessly in the media is also part of the nonsense.

          • kirill says:

            I agree. But my point was still valid since the ratio and the direction to where the civilians flee are systematically ignored in the NATzO MSM. Orwell’s Big Brother would be proud.

    • Patient Observer says:

      This story via Yahoo:

      A stunning admission last week by a French academic about the true nature of the so-called “secular” elements of the Syrian rebels exposes the lies behind the official media and foreign policy establishment narratives pushing for regime change in Syria. As first noticed by Professor Max Abrams of Northeastern University, a study published by the Washington Institute for Near East Policy authored by French professor Fabrice Balanche on the status and composition of the Syrian “rebels” admits that the vaunted “secular” rebels are anything but.

      Shocked! Who could have known this until now! An honest mistake! Definitely some red faces!

    • astabada says:

      Nobody dares to say that the civilians are fleeing to West Aleppo, rather than following the mujaheedin in their retreat South.

      Why would they flee in the hands of their slaughterers? Mysteries of Western Journalism.

  9. Patient Observer says:

    Let’s do the math. The West claims that there are 300K to 400K civilians in West Aleppo. The actual number may be around 20K. So, when West Aleppo is fully liberated and only 20K civilians turn up, obviously Assad murdered the balance. That puts the death of up to 380K civilians on the bloody hands of Assad. These stories write themselves.

    • et Al says:

      It’s the same schtick they pulled almost 25 years ago in Bosnia, claiming that 250,000 ‘Bosnians’ had died. No one bothered to tally the casualty figures put out by the sides, take the average and apply it. It was clear from the beginning that is was a low-intensity civil war, with the odd spike. It was only a few years after the actual statistics came in showing that a little over 100k from all sides died.

      As for east Aleppo, what is the basic food ration for one person? x250k, then how many truck convoys how often, take in to account a low level of mutual exchange which is known to go on, another small amount from smuggling and even the best (or is that the worst guesstimates?) come nowhere near 250k. You can also bet that the ‘moderate jihadi headchoppers’ got prime pick of everything that did manage to get in to east Aleppo, much as the ‘Bosnian’ Army did with all those UNHCR & private ‘humanitarian’ convoys.

      So, not a single lesson learned in almost a quarter of a century by the Pork Pie News Networks. In short, if you are going to have a humanitarian crisis, the bigger the number, the better, never mind the bs. UN ‘personalities’ have also played the hysterical crisis with great aplomb too.

        • et Al says:

          Independent: Minister heckled after suggesting humanitarian airdrops in Syria could put British aircraft in ‘harm’s way’

          British aircraft could be placed in “harm’s way” if they were used to drop aid to besieged Syrians in eastern Aleppo, a Foreign Office minister has said as he was heckled by MPs in the Commons.

          Tobias Ellwood, who was responding to an urgent question on the humanitarian crisis in the war-ravaged region of Syria did not rule out the proposal but questioned if sending aircraft would “compound matters or improve” them.

          But Mr Ellwood – who also warned Russia that using food as a weapon of war was a “war crime” – was heckled after failing to commit to the humanitarian relief by MPs after Labour’s Alison McGovern urged the Government to consider the “last resort”.

          “But what are you doing now?” shouted another MP in the chamber…

          …The letter said “the time for excuses is over” and added that “nearly 100,000 children are facing the slowest, cruellest death because we cannot reach them with food and medical supplies.”

          Ms McGovern had read out a statement from the Syrian Civil Defence – also known as the White Helmets – which warned Britain that Aleppo is “in a state of emergency” and that 279,000 people have been “under siege” for 94 days…

          Quite funny in a deeply perverse way. The government minister knows that there are no where near 250k+ starving civilians but that is exactly the line being peddled by his own government. MPs are just feeding it back to him but he cannot tell them that it is total bs which is why he has to scrabble around for an excuse that supplying food will only make matters worse. He’s caught in his own government’s lies. Elvis!

          • Patient Observer says:

            CBS Evening News had a story on east Aleppo that stated several thousand refugees were “fleeing” the advancing Syrian forces; apparently by fleeing “through” the advancing army lines. The story further stated that Russian forces, who were attacking civilians, are now feeding them and putting them on buses for transport to safer areas. The civilians were in bad shape with many claiming to have lost family members to hunger. Odd, how the rebels seem to have no lack of food. The jerk reporter said that many other civilians were fleeing deeper into Aleppo with the implication that this was preferable to going to the Syrian side. Of course, no proof was provided; simply an assertion intended to diminish the relief brought by the successful Syrian army advance.

            In any event, the MSM seems to have accepted that the battle for Aleppo is lost.

            • Patient Observer says:

              And the latest from MoA:

              November 27, 2016
              The whole north of the Jihadist held part is liberated, some 40+% of the territory. A new map is here. Up to 10,000 civilians fled to the government areas. (This makes a joke out of the UN 250k claim.) The water pump works for all Aleppo are back in the hand of the government. Supply is to resume


      • kirill says:

        The Toronto Star did a piece on the discrepancy in the case of Kosovo where at one point there were supposedly 600,000 dead or missing Albanians and concluded that Serbs were evil war criminals anyway. The ends justify the means….

  10. Patient Observer says:


    Stern noted that Armata is a tank “that can’t be stopped” and that the West “will need at least 20 years to catch up with Moscow.”

    Many would ask why “the West is far behind and how this could happen,” but according to the magazine, the answer is quite simple: NATO countries have simply forgotten about the existence of classic tank battles while Russian engineers have avoided this trap. “Without hyperbole, Armata represents the most revolutionary step change in tank design in the last half century,” the paper wrote. “Unsurprisingly, the tank has caused a sensation.”

    Many western military writers went through denial, then anger and now acceptance. The Abrams is obsolete in virtually every category including armor, fuel efficiency (i.e. combat range) main gun, crew protection, crew comfort and most especially in sensors and countermeasures.

    You tube is replete with videos of Abrams tanks being opened up like tin cans by Russian antitank missiles. Here is a relevant video – a T-90 in Aleppo surviving a TOW missile attack:


    • kirill says:

      While the USSR built “small” tanks under 45 metric tons, NATzO built armoured discos weighing upwards of 62 metric tons. Less mobility and less fuel economy all in one nonsensical package. It is clear that active protection is the only hope for modern tanks and that more tank weight through heavier armour is a dead end.

      Even though the T-14 Armata is much bigger in size than the T-72 it still weighs under 50 metric tons and is coupled to a monster diesel that gives it world leading power to weight ratio. It can fly in reverse. The T-14 achieves its low weight by not having to armour a disco turret (i.e. one which is spacious enough to dance in). The crew capsule is compact but not excessively and it is well protected.

      All of the NATzO MBTs have the same basic layout as the Abrams and are all obsolete.

      • marknesop says:

        Armoured discos; good one, I choked a little. It’s true the Americans have a thing about size, and consider smaller weapons systems to be ‘puny’, as if you cannot get punch in any smaller package.

        Early variants of the T-72, however, revealed a danger in that small, low-silhouette turret – the gun employed an auto-loader, and there was so little room behind it that the auto-loader frequently loaded the gunner’s arm into the open breech. Consequently they had to bring the gun near-vertical when loading, which defeated the purpose of the low-visibility turret, especially when the tank is dug in and partially concealed.

        I’m not sure what they did to correct the problem, but they apparently did.

        • kirill says:

          I encountered discussions on the arm eating auto loaders before. From I can tell these stories are bunkum. From another board post:

          “Biggest myth ever, can’t believe I did post this before;

          Russian autoloaders eat arms

          They don’t and never did. The loading mechanism in a T-72, for example, has “potentially dangerous areas” covered in metal. It’s impossible to have your arm loaded unless it is deliberate.

          From what I have heard, early T-64’s would snag on the gunners clothes every once in a while. The autoloader was modified as a result, and the problem disappeared. ”

          Mike E appears to be informed by other posts on other boards.

          I do not know where the “bring the gun near vertical” came form. I have never heard of such a thing and it would have been common and filmed if true. I have seen video of T-72 and T-90 autoloading and there is no indication that the gun elevation is changed.

          • marknesop says:

            You could be right; I have no proof that any such thing ever happened, it was just gossip I heard somewhere, and it may well have been completely inaccurate.

            Autoloaders are a known danger area, and it does seem curious that Russian designers would not take steps to eliminate all foreseeable risk. The allegation that they had to bring the gun barrel up was supposedly to access more space below the breech because of the cramped turret. But the operator who fires the gun is probably not right behind or beside the breech anyway. I don’t know much about crew positions in a Russian tank, perhaps Paul knows.

    • kirill says:

      Drivel. Not one mention of the fact that the Nazis burned 80% of their military resources on the eastern front. So yes, the USSR did defeat Hitler “with some help from the “Allies””.

      As for fabrication, that word itself shows this subject to be flagrant revisionist BS. This word has the specific meaning of complete concoction and is equivalent to the claim that the event did not happen. This is patent nonsense.

      “There was a battle, but there were more than 28 men, everyone didn’t die, and some surrendered.”

      The correct term is “embellishment” and excuse me while I don’t give a flying fuck. As if the “Allies” did not embellish their war activity. They did it to a pathological level and basically claim that their 20% sink of Nazi military resources (in places like North Africa) “won the war”.

  11. Moscow Exile says:

    Немецкие депутаты призвали ЕС ввести новые санкции против России

    German MPs have called on the EU to impose new sanctions against Russia
    The Chairman of the Bundestag Committee on Foreign Affairs, Norbert Röttgen, and a deputy from the party “Union-90/Green”, Franziska Brantner, have demanded that new sanctions against Russia be imposed because of Moscow’s actions in Syria. In addition, they believe that there needs to be created an “air bridge” to Aleppo….

    The message said that Russia is committing “atrocities” in Syria and this needs to end. “The perpetrators of these crimes are flying around for gifts on Christmas Eve in Munich and Paris, and in Syria at this time, women and children are dying”, wrote the MPs. With regard to the organization of the “air bridge” to Aleppo, according to Norbert Röttgen and Franziska Brantner, it is risky, but necessary. “We have really been trying a long time to provide assistance to all those who need it and who have been were forgotten for many months”, said the Deputy.

    Remember the names of these pieces of shit, Russia!!!

  12. et Al says:

    EU Observer: ‘Secular’ EU told of Christian suffering in Middle East

    …”They [Christians] need support, material support, concrete support and a safe place,” Bishop Heinrich Bedford-Strohm, chairman of the council of the Evangelical Church in Germany, said at a press conference.

    He recalled his trip to nothern Iraq two years ago, when Isis, a jihadist group, took over large swaths of territory where Christians have lived for thousands of years. ..

    …Arie Folger, the chief rabbi of Vienna, said he was “very concerned the plight of Christians in certain parts of the Middle East has not been considered a matter serious enough for European countries, for Western countries in general, to get involved and react.”…

    …According to estimates, after the US-led invasion of Iraq in 2003, only 500,000 Christians remained, mostly in the northern part of the country, out of the original population of 1.4 million. Hundreds of thousands have left since Isis took over the territory more than two years ago.

    They are spread across refugee camps in Lebanon, Jordan, and Turkey. Some have made their way to Europe.

    “Without help from all these countries, we cannot do anything. We don’t trust the government in Baghdad,” Nicodemos Daoud Matti Sharaf, the Syriac Orthodox archbishop of Mosul told Euobserver in Erbil in early November. ..

    …“We hope for an internationally protected Christian autonomous region,” he added, saying that what happened to the Christian community in northern Iraq under Isis amounted to genocide. ..

    Let’s get this right, western action has been the single most significant cause leading to the removal of Christians from their homelands in the Middle East where they have long existed in peace and security. Regime change has been f/king catastrophic for Christians. The conclusion by the ‘responsible’ religious f/kwits is more intervention?!!! How about not *(£*&%ng intervening?

  13. Moscow Exile says:

    Wagenknecht telling the Bundestag what a political shithole the Ukraine is:

    She told the Bundestag the truth about events in the Ukraine. She compared Ukrainian oligarchs with Afghanistan warlords, who also finance their nationalist private armies. She also spoke of the the deplorable condition of the country’s economy, saying that the majority of the population remains below the poverty line. Wagenknecht stated that the burning of people in Odessa was not Russian propaganda, and went on telling the Bundestag the terrible truth about what is happening in the Ukraine, that in that country there flourishes a Nazi movement etc…

    Switch auto-translate on for English (sort of) subtitles.

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