The Credibility Gap That Ought To Be

Uncle Volodya says, “The habit of disguising ideology as expertise has created a deficit of legitimacy.”

Leap aboard the Lyttenburgh Omnibus; what follows is a looonnngg guest post by Lyttenburgh, one which is going to be like the blind men who are trying to describe an elephant. “An elephant is like a rope”, says the one who is holding the trunk. “An elephant is more like a tree” says the one standing at the foreleg. “An elephant is warm and squishy”, says the one standing….well, never mind that for now. I suspect it is going to be about different things for different readers, but I believe I can promise it will make you think. We are all aware that English is Lyttenburgh’s second language, and he has a unique – though accomplished – delivery which I have not edited (much) so as to preserve its colourful flavour. Without further ado, light it up, Lyttenburgh!

On the current problems of Shamanism of the Global North.

“Let’s decide already,”  the PhD began seriously,  “what we’re talking about.

Okay. The second question: how do you personally feel about the problem of shamanism in certain areas of the North?

The PhDs laughed. Gleb Kapustin also smiled. And patiently waited for the PhDs to finish laughing.

“No, you can, of course, pretend that there is no such problem. I’m happy to laugh with you, too… ” Gleb smiled generously again. Especially he smiled at the PhDs wife, also a PhD, a PhDess, so to speak.  “But from that, the problem as such will not cease to exist. Right?”

” Are you serious about all of this?”  asked Valya.

“With your permission, ”  Gleb Kapustin rose and bowed slightly to the PhDess. She blushed.  “The question, of course, is not a global one, but, from our point of view, it would be interesting to know.”

“But which question? ” exclaimed the PhD.

“Your attitude to the problem of shamanism. ” Valya again involuntarily laughed. But she quickly stopped and said to Gleb, “Excuse me, please.”

“It’s nothing”, said Gleb. ” I understand that maybe I did not ask a question within your specialty…”

“There is no such problem!”  the PhD again rushed with a categorical answer. That was his mistake. He should’ve known better. Now Gleb laughed. And said:

“Well, that solves it!”

The local folks looked at the PhD.

“Good riddance”,  Gleb said. “There is no problem, but these …” Gleb showed something intricate with his hands,  “they dance, they beat their tambourines… Yes?” But if you wish… ” Gleb repeated ” If-You-Wish they do not exist. Right?”

Vasiliy Shukshin

Paging through old blogposts of the fallen Russia-watcher, I’ve been always thinking about Russia and the fates (c). “How come?” and “Why?” are the questions I most often ask myself – facepalming all the way.

For my more than 6 years of Russia-Watching (as, if you will, an “insider” from Russia’s side) I saw a… process… so to speak… of this field both changing and staying the same. i.e. I saw a general trend of it getting worse and worse. No, seriously – the book of Ecclesiastes makes more fun reading, and leaves a much more positive lasting impression afterwards, than any attempt to delve deep into the Wonderland, which is the collective world of those who, correctly or not, are considered to be gurus of Russia Watching.

If you’d like a (probably completely inaccurate, but very colorful) comparison, then the modern and much lauded Global Village of the highly opinionated people is a village indeed. They have at their fingertips the highest amount of data ever accessible to humanity and who either don’t access it at all, or access it without thinking, replacing with this raw, undiluted knowledge without the understanding.

But don’t worry – the globalized world of all-knowing know-nothings is not really a Village! It’s a Cave. Populated by the primitive cavemen. Yup.

Primitive early humans had their own primitive, early worldview. One of the many things they did believe in was the Magic. Before going out and try to hunt a savage beast that could easily defeat and devour one of them, they took all possible precautions. Besides arming themselves with spears they will surely go and visit their local Guru, Shaman, a Wise Person, reputedly all-knowing about the unsafe world beyond and above. Here in Guru’s personal Cave (who, despite not engaging oneself in the daily chores of the Tribe, was always well-fed and taken care of no matter what) they underwent the Ritual, which was, they were assured, to make them successful in their hunt and helping them slay the Beast. After working themselves up into rage, the hunters will then participate in the piece de resistance of the ritual – they will come to one particular wall in the Shaman’s cave where the dreaded Beast is pictured and start hurling their spears at it, imaging that this flat surface with some pigment on it is something more, that it IS the Beast itself, and that they with their sticks do magic – that they are harming the Beast even without engaging it.

Our continuing existence today demonstrates that the Hunters of yore were, mostly, successful in their beast-slaying food-procuring expeditions. The same cannot be said about modern Us. It’s because of the progress, and the urgent need for one. Primitive Hunters were not content to stay Primitive – they had all the incentives to see their “Spears”, to be something more than Pointy Sticks, they fought the Beast, survived the encounters, gained invaluable experience and passed it on to other hunters. Moreover, they took a logical jump from “engaging your enemy from afar” on the example of spear-throwing sessions during the Ur-example of the future “5 Minutes of Hate” at the cave painting of the Beast, and they DID invent something to make it a reality. Because more often than not Shaman’s magic sucked. Still, the sly wily bugger got his share of the kill and was taken care of.

Nowadays, wherever you cast your gaze you find instead our modern-age Cavemen engaged in fighting their Beast of choice in its harmless, painting-on-the-wall incarnation, and calling that process a real fight – while abstaining from the real, physical, up close thing completely. This arrangement is to the mutual enjoyment of both the highly opinionated Hunters/Warriors for such and such cause, who simply MUST have their very valuable opinion (and we are told that ALL opinions are valuable, even the wrong ones, and that trying to suppress the factually incorrect opinions is a despicable Censorship punishable with the Civilian Death) while avoiding making any effort over themselves and to the modern day. And Wise People/Gurus can still live in comfort while basically doing nothing, compared to their less wily and sly Cavemen.

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There shall not be found among you any one that makes his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that uses divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.”

– Deuteronomy 18:10-11

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Magic(k) operates on one basic principle – it works with the Symbol (image, representation, effigy, etc.) of the Target with the aim to influence it – like throwing Pointy Sticks at the painted Beast. Or the Symbol of an Action is enacted, to bring forward said action in reality – like beating in the drums, calling forth the rain. i.e., if the event “A” is followed by the event “B”, then in order to cause the event “B” you must symbolically recreate the event “A”.

These truly venerable principles are alive and well to this day. Symbolic dumping of “Russian” (actually – Latvian) vodka by the proponents of the Universal and LGBTIQ+ rights serves the ritual denunciation of the “widely condemned” ™ Russian law about “gay propaganda”. Changing your social media userpic to #JeSuis[something currently trending] serves to show solidarity and (magic(k)al) reversion of the aftermath of this or that tragedy. Ritualistic demolition of yet another statue to Lenin in now Free and Independent Ukraine ™ serves as the Symbolical (i.e. – magic(k)al!) act of severing all ties with the past, while summoning the Bright European Future. Also, the now toppled bronze Ilyich could always be sold to the scrapyard dealers .

It might all look funny, clumsy or even sickly adorable – on the outside. Unfortunately, the laws of the magic(k) are implacable and are not the stuff of the jokes. In the end, the most powerful medium and symbol to conduct it is the Blood. Seeing that beating the drums failed to summon the rain, Shamans and Gurus of the world (and blindingly trusting them ordinary population) won’t take the cue that, you know folks – magic doesn’t work, so you better start working hard if you want to survive. No – they will resort to the plan “B”, where “B” stands for “Blood”. They always do. When all the whining and highly publicized coverage by the Free and Independent Media of this or that “peaceful protest” fail to result in the desired magic(k)al effect – a Sacred Victim is bound to be sacrificed. If your country 3 years after the glorious Peremoga of the Revolution of Dignity looks worse than under the Zlochinna Tyranny – you find the scapegoats, lots of them, and sic the crowd (and the TerrBats of the NatzGuard) on them. And when you lose elections to a Deplorable – use your magic(k) to start a Witch Hunt.

Nowhere is this Shamanistic, magical approach more apparent than in the sphere of Russia-Watching, Russian analysis and, the so-called “Putinology” (a personified “Kremlinology” v. 2.0.). The sad thing is – people, so-called professionals, “respected scholars” with a lengthy shop-list of awards and recognitions, published in all handshakable mainstream Free and Independent Western Media ™ – virtually all of them SUCK. And when they suck – it blows. Nevertheless, the wide desperate and ignorant cavemen masses of the so-called “thinking” people keep coming to them, not hindered by the fact that the faces of their Holy Gurus are always smeared by crap they eat regularly.

One of such lauded, respectable and nearly worshipped by both the ignorant masses and the political class of the Western establishment (which is also none the wiser about Russia than the people they rule over) is Mark Galeotti,  owner and proprietor of the “In Moscow’s Shadows” blog full of self-aggrandizement and Russophobia du jour.

Actually, it doesn’t matter who in particular we gonna discuss as the example of the present day horrifically degraded level of the Russia-Watching professional (read: paid) or not. They’re all more or less the same. Modern Gurus fulfill several important functions to their easily panic-stricken passive-aggressive and tad bit butthurt flock. First of all, there is a task of Explaining the World. It’s done in the typical Shamanistic way, i.e. with as little scientific support as possible, while committing an absolute maximum of false cause and effect equivalences. Why the rain pours and the lightning flashes in the sky? Why, because the Sky Spirits are unhappy with us! Is it true that Putin is trying to re-create Russian Empire/USSR? Why, of course – otherwise why would he order the return of the old Soviet anthem and embrace the pre-Revolutionary paraphernalia? This type of “analysis”.

This magical worldview operates on providing the Masses with 2 essential thing. First – the Poison. People are told that the world is ultimately Unknowable by them (emphasis here – on “them”). This serves, primarily, as a venue to scare these poor “them” (because, what’s bigger than the fear of Unknown?), while, simultaneously putting them at a resigned ease of a wounded animal, who found itself sucked into the swamp. People in the West don’t really know a thing beyond the obvious stereotypes about Russia – now you ensure that it stays the same, by claiming that any knowledge they access pertaining to the real picture of Russia and which is not vetted and approved by the Shamans is a false one. Thus, not only the minds of the people are poisoned – entire wellsprings of knowledge are poisoned as well, along with the desire to independently go forth and get the world around you known.

Pre-existing fears are worked with, i.e. they are pandered to and exaggerated. Everyone now in the West knows about “Russian Aggression in the Baltics” ™. It doesn’t matter that any given American can hardly point out where Estonia is, or who knows a thing or two about Lithuanian medieval history, but your average member of the Flock knows like a Gospel (now fallen out of use, ‘cause, you have to actually read it) that The Russians shall not have Constantinople Vlad Putin must be stopped from invading Europe. The best way to conduct that is to be super aggressive towards Russia. Pathetic dangerous weaklings “understand only the language of  force” (c) and “the negotiation from the position of strength” (c) are the must. The West is bound to Win! After all, “We’ve fought the Bear before”!

See? Our Shamans prove themselves the Medicine Men! After delivering poison, they are right here peddling their Cure, while ensuring that they will remain the monopolists on the market and that no one will denounce their snake-oil wonder drug as a fraud. In this, they are no different from drug pushers indeed – they get the people “hooked” on their expensive poison, and then use the same poison to “cure” them from their developed craving addiction… for a time.

They are a class of  parasites (both in the biological and the Ancient Roman sense). And they are here to stay and feed.

________________________________________________________________I.47. If a man or a woman practice sorcery, and they be caught with it in their hands, they shall prosecute them, they shall convict them. The practicer of magic they shall put to death.

– Assyrian Law, c. 1075 BC.

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Magic(k) is awe-inspiring to the people ignorant of its inner workings. When your computer suffers some trouble, glitch or problem – as they often do – you, for the most part, go to techno-shamans of the Technical Service, who, by means arcane and profane (the last thing is obligatory) try to cajole the Machine Spirit to perform the task properly. Awed by their shiny instruments, mysterious slang and ease with which they make the impossible (for us, mere mortals) become a reality, an adoration replaces all other thoughts in the brain. So we are willing to follow their advice, to do as they say in fear of, accidentally, incurring the displeasure of the Machine Spirit again, and don’t try to do anything ourselves.

At the same time we are willing to pay any price they charge, to acquire any bell and whistle they claim would be working as a magic(k) talisman and ward for our temperamental Machine Spirit, and, most of all, we are left beholden to them. After all – you’ve just witnessed a work of magic(k), something impossible (for you) made possible (by them). How can you question this authority?

The tragic fact of human life is that we can’t know everything. None of us has the time, or inclination, or the capacity to become an all rounded specialist in all possible fields. So we will have to delegate our trust to often complete strangers, who are specialists in their respected field and that other people will trust us in return, when they will be in need of our skills and knowledge. Ideally, such a system is easy to maintain. If you do deliver a net positive, satisfactory or even above the average result as a specialist there is a good chance that the people around you will keep regarding you as the worthy depository of their trust. If you repeatedly fail to do that due to any combination of factors, the trust in you will disappear sooner than the unlucky caveman hunter’s body parts into a bestial maw.

But we don’t live in the ideal world – and yet strive to perfect the world currently existing, as to make it more resembling said ideal. Rightfully not trusting human nature, we have Rules and Regulations since time immemorial. Amazingly straightforward Assyrian laws punished the architect of a collapsed house with death, and the doctor, whose patient dies due to his actions, should also have his life taken. Thus it’s been ensured that even if the people themselves would be incapable of punishing the one whom they trusted, there will be some external force (e.g. the state) that will do so.

None of these seems to work with the post-modern magic(k) of the Gurus and the Shamans of the Global North. They suffer no consequences for misplaced trust, for either making mistakes or lying outright repeatedly to the very people, who held them, previously, to be the Voices of God(s). They always have an appropriate explanation! What, your horoscope predicted a good fortune and success in all endeavors in the coming week but the opposite happened? Why, the Venus was in Mercury, d’uh! Russia failed to act in accordance with your prediction? Oh, you know – those Russians! Sounds lame? Because it is. It is lame. But no one is calling their bluff – the Flock lacks both the knowledge and the will to exercise this knowledge in order to get their Gurus in line. And, besides – the Shamans are on your side, buddy! Arguing against them is like, siding with the Beast – the dark, always hungry ravenous Beast that’s simultaneously everywhere in the surrounding Darkness beyond the cozy Cave – and nowhere to be found.

By means foul and fair the so-called Russia-Watching experts acquired their own “street-cred” years ago – and now they just live off it, like the rentiers. Maybe there was genuinely a time when they were spry and active, and did try to make an effort over themselves while writing articles, conducting the research or pontificating on this or that issue. Say, when the field of Russian studies and Russia watching became a barren desert following the collapse of the USSR in 1991, only to become a hunting ground for a few crazies with outdated or just simply too wrong to sustain beliefs, they established their respectability just by stating things less crazy and more grounded in reality. When everyone and their dog were barking, that “Russia is dying out fast” (c) or “The territorial collapse of Russia will happen any moment now” (c), they cited hard data showing the amazingly persistent (and still alive and kicking among the Flock) myth about the “Dying Bear” to be a matter of fiction. As for the “Crussionality” of Russia, they had to be more circumspect – after all, denying it outright would be akin to saying that the Beast will always threaten the Flock. So, if these Shamans had the “Hawk” as their Totem, they just postponed the “inevitable” (while not contradicting it), while their colleagues following the “Dove” spirit claimed that the Beast, while still sub-human animal with no positive qualities at all, is too old and frail now and of no danger to the Flock.

With their credentials established, trust gained and then steady flow of income assured, the Gurus became lazy and opinionated. They no longer conducted the actual research or used their brainpower for the lowly matter of real analysis. No, they found out that they can still maintain their life-style, all perks and benefits plus the love and adulation of the not so Enlightened Masses, simply by conducting the most primitive of the rituals. Instead of Research and Facts, they now peddled as the Real Thing their own Opinion. Their opinion was so wrapped in thunder and bluster of the ritualistic magic(k), that the Flock (already not the ones to question their trusted objects of worship) was incapable of distinguishing something that might not be true with the truth itself.

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“…You, who talk of superstitions, have you realized that this house is a house of spells? Don’t you know it is chock full of charms and magic rites, only they are all done backwards, as the witches said the Lord’s Prayer? Can you imagine how a witch would feel if two words of the prayer came right by accident? Crundle saw that this clown from the country was reversing all the spells of his own black art. If salt was once thrown over the shoulder, all the great work might yet be undone…”

– Gilbert K. Chesterton, The House of the Peacock

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To showcase how the supposedly “professional” (read: paid) analysis of Russia, its past, present and future, have become a shallow exercise of empty formulas and chants of no substance, I’ve chosen the recent activity of the Big Name in the World of Russia Watching – Mark Galeotti. My hope is that my attempt will show all those who are willing to see, that this one Guru (and many, many like him) is not only “naked” like a pretentious king from Andersen’s fairy tale, but also covered in some icky and non-hygienic substance of repugnant manner.

With the power granted to me by Time itself, I will dissect and analyze some of the “analytical pieces” and predictions made by the esteemed (by some) Mr. Galeotti in the November 2015 – March 2016 period, plus some earlier predictions made about 2016 in general, and compare it with the reality at hand – nearly a year after these “prophecies” were made.

Mr. Galeotti is not a shy one. He rushes head-first into the ugly business of making predictions about Russia’s future, knowing full well he won’t suffer the consequences. This “Three Russias” fantasy by Galeotti reads like a “program statement” of what he wants to be true and in accordance to which he conducts his further analytical activity – ignoring the facts and changing circumstances when needed. The following theses were made by Galeotti, the all-knowing Guru of How Russia works:

A) Russia is facing increased dissatisfaction of the general population with the “Regime”, as it is exemplified with the “increased” labor “unrest” (gee, if he calls the heavy trucks dalnoboishiki drivers protest an “unrest”, then how’d we call a riot in Ferguson and all the fracas past Trump’s election?).

B) The three causes of the “failing standards of life” of Russians are the fall of the oil prices, the international sanctions and “official corruption”. We are not told how, why and to what degree.

C) On Duma Elections of 2016: “[I]t will crucial to the government to ensure a high turnout and strong support for its chosen candidates”. Why? We are not told why. We are kinda bludgeoned to assume that low (as in – European and American low) turnout in elections would be something bad for the “Regime”. We are also told that while not an outright revolt (as some Westerners did hope back in early 2016!), the combination of “active anger from the working class (increasingly Putin’s main support base)” and the krealkian bitching over (naturally!) “blatant rigging of the elections” could “prove a serious embarrassment… – and a major challenge” for Putin. He also predicted that “the more vocal and effective Kremlin critics [will be] systematically excluded, vilified and pressurised”.

D) Finally – the main part. The pulsating core of Galeotti’s Credo, on which he bases all his analysis – an attempt of strawmanning and an illusion of choice. It’s a staple of Russia watching. A must-have. In reality, it’s nothing more or better than a juvenile faux “prison folklore” attempt to troll your equally juvenile (and, therefore, not so bright) interlocutor, with the “riddle”, when your interlocutor is faced with the moral dilemma of choosing sitting arrangements for oneself and one’s mother, while having to do with two chairs of  unusual construction. In Galeotti’s edition these “two chairs” are rebranded as “Three Russias” (no proof provided to, well, prove his point that they exist in the first place, besides the usual bleating of chants and spells) and Putin is forced by Mighty Marko to deal with the dilemma – or else! And no matter what Puny Putin (compared to Mighty Marko) chooses – he will lose, and his Regime will face the inevitable, right-around-the-corner-but-not-quite-immediate collapse.

E) Mr. Galeotti calls his exercise in soothsaying “a potentially upbeat one” (c). That, I remind you, was done by the people and for the people who considered the election of HRC an inevitability.

That’s the core of his predictions for Russia in 2016. Well, how did he fare in this regard? Abysmal. No – pathetic. Yeah, that’s the word – pathetic.

Galeotti insisted that the upcoming (for him, now safely passed for us) Duma elections of 2016 in Russia will be seen as “a referendum on the regime” (c). Whyyyyy? We are not told. Again. Nevertheless, United Russia won the elections, steamrolling through all opposition like an unstoppable Juggernaut. Butthurt (as always) free and independent media-sources had to admit that EdRo won fair and square – i.e. without unnecessary ballot-stuffing, carousel voting and other vote-rigging shenanigans. Galeotti also began with a strawman in his prediction, claiming that only the UR and “its affiliated pseudo-parties” will control the Duma in the aftermath of the elections, while all brave, talented and potentially successful Real Opposition Parties would be brutally shafted by the Regime.

If we are to believe Mr. Galeotti’s narrative, then according to dear Marko, “the liberal leader” Mikhail Kasyanov’s ParNaS, Grigoriy Yavlinskiy’s “Yabloko” and once again re-animated pathetic rotten liberal undead of a party “Party of  Growth” (all very handshakable so-called liberal, democratic parties), plus 30+ “independent candidates” funded and supported by Mikhail Khodorkovsky’s “Open Russia”, were Kremlin Stooges (™). Because the Regime not only allowed them to run in the 2016 elections, it also (unbelievable!) allowed them to have a free time on the national (read: Kremlin controlled TV) where they amazed the commoners with their agitation and propaganda, and also engaged each other in the political debates – uncensored and unhindered. Horror, horror!

And with all these incentives, the long-suffering Russian people still voted for the “Party of the Crooks and Thieves” (™), plus for the Systemic Opposition. Even Yabloko finally fell below 3% of the vote, a direct result of their anti-Crimean rhetoric – not some dark Kremlinite magic. Galeottis of this world not only exploit other people’s ignorance for their own profit – they are themselves often clueless and ignorant when it comes to Russian realities, of which they are supposed to be “experts”. All and any accusations of something untoward done by the “Party of  Power”, or of some suppression of the votes for the “True Opposition”, i.e. these typical conspiracy theories that “the vote results doesn’t really reflect the opinion of Russian people” (remember how earlier I mentioned Shaman’s desire to poison the well of knowledge?) comes crashing down if you compare the results of regional elections with the federal. The correlation is obvious to anyone – both the total percentage of votes given to United Russia, let alone in the number of the single-mandate districts won by the EdRo candidates, not to mention the general pattern of the voter’s turnout for the last 2 years.

Elections happened and… nothing happened. One might expect this from some old, boring, “civilized” European country, but, apparently, not from Russia. Because, indeed, there was a faction expecting blood-curdling news coming from  Northern Mordor – a faction supported, to a degree, by a team of professional soothsayers like Galeotti. For them, Russian “Regime” must time and again “prove” its legitimacy to… someone. Once again – they don’t regard Russia as a normal country. No one really spends so much ink and energy writing how, say, Danish government must once again prove their “legitimacy”. Why? Apparently, Danish legitimacy could be sourced by the Heavenly Mandate coming from the twin capitals of the Western World – Washington, D.C., and the Brussels. Works kinda like the Pope’s blessing for the monarch… only with less theology. Oh, and on the inside these old, boring, predictable European countries have their own Regimes legitimacy ensured by the Competent Minority, i.e. by the Creative Class and Big Capital.

Russia, understandably, does not fit into this Procrustean frame – it frankly never did, what with Russia being an Orthodox country and the so-called European Christendom starting out as Roman Catholic. The way Galeotti wrote everything he wrote demonstrates not only his ignorance. While soaking every line on every page of his diatribes with an enormous dose of disdain, typical for a person, who won’t work for a living with his hands even if his own Shamanistic life would depend on it, he stumbled upon the fact that the working class Russians (i.e. the absolute Majority of Russians) DID support Putin. This, paradoxically, makes him less legitimate from the Western point of view – as Galeotti will surely tell you.

So the Gurus had to lie. They had to present the “the growing rash of local labour and social protests” (without providing evidence, naturally), as the proof that Putin’s personal popularity is made up, and that the “unrest”, or better yet (for the West), the proverbial Russian Revolt (Senseless and Merciless (™)) is around the corner, as the facts – not as their deluded opinions.

Galeotti, in his “upbeat” prophecy about Russia in 2016, talked about “labour unrest”, “suicide rates” and “support for local civic initiatives” seen by everyone with the eyes to see as the sure signs of the Regime’s unraveling and the quiet, huddled masses of Russians reacting to that. Did it come to pass?

A little bit of history about the “labour question”, and then we will tune back to the “Downtrodden Russian masses”, and how they reacted to the policy of the Regime. First, the data about the strikes in the Russian Federation’s modern history:

By Heaven Above – what do I see here!? The peak of the strikes happened during the Blessed Democratic 90s?! Why – the West, probably, doubted the legitimacy of Boris Yeltsin’s (Truly) Bloody Regime and predicted with glee its downfall any day now! And the second peak coincides with the still very controversial and the one and only, to boot, genuinely widely unpopular reforms of Putin – the so-called “monetization” of the benefits for the retirees and receivers of the social payments. Were there also talks about the Regime’s imminent collapse then?

The answer to both of these questions is a resolute “No”! Boris the Drunk was the Friend of the West. And even post-Khodorkovsky Putin was still fairly handshakable person, whose soul-possessing trait had been confirmed by the today’s newest darling of the Free and Independent Press (and back then – by Buffoon in Chief) George W. Bush.

Right, but what about the 2008-2012 period? After all, the World Financial Crises surely had done its share of damage to the Regime in Russia! What about the pinnacle of the working class protest, the “strikes” in this period?

According to not “neutered by the Kremlin” yet Lenta Ru, 2012 saw the absolute 5-year maximum of worker strikes in Russia. The progression since the beginning of the World Financial Crisis was the following:

2008 – 93

2009 – 272

2010 – 205

2011 – 262

These were the alarming days, full of (for the time being) vague allusions, like the fact that according to one think-tank’s research, the index of social anxiety has reached the early 90s level. These, I remind you, were the times of the fashionable Bolotnaya Fronde, and when a not so insignificant number of the so-called professionals fell into the trap of wishful thinking, passed as their own analyses.

And so – what can be said about Neo-Putin labour protest?

Huh. How odd! One can imagine that the egg-headed Gurus (with no knowledge of Russia, labour relations or economics) just chanced upon a trend that was, well, trending right before their eyes and then just simply extrapolated it into the future because, obviously, what else is our life if not one giant exponent? Just ask the Sci-Fi authors from the 1950s about the all-conquering atom. Or their counterparts slightly down the historical road who couldn’t ever imagine that humanity by 2010s will not only abandon all attempts to break through to other planets, but instead trust blindly the commercial spacecraft design to a modern version of the carney-barker and all-round fraud Elon Musk. And while you are doing these inquiries, go and troll “futurists” of 1920-30s on whether the fabulously novel invention known as the “airplane” managed to replace the car as the go-to common mean of transportation for the masses.

In short, those who have eyes and can see are gonna notice that despite all doom and gloom, the deepest heart desires of Galeottis of this world failed to materialize. Moreover – Russia have withstood much more serious problems and “unrest” with not much ado.

Right, what’s next? Suicide rates? Anti-Kremlin feisty pro-liberast RBK reports that 2016 was the 50-year all time low in suicides in Russia (yes, that’s right – lowest in FIFTY years), and that the trend of them dropping yearly was not interrupted in 2014-2015 period by the “annexation of Crimea” or the sanctions. Galeottis must be inconsolable! How come Russians are not killing themselves in droves over the lack of jamon and having to withstand the “diplomatic isolation of Russia”!?

Galeotti singles out something ambiguous as the “support for local civic initiatives”, as if it must be something anti-governmental by default. He doesn’t supply us with criterion by which we can judge what he means by that. Did the Russians became suddenly enamored with the foreign NGOs, or the foreign agent local NGOs? Nope. Did they vote for the “true opposition” in the protest of the Regime? No. Are we more likely to embrace freaks and weirdos, who claim to be the “true voice of the Russian civil society”? No again. Is there any sympathy for the “artist” (sorry for the word artist) Pavlensky among the ordinary Russians and his “art performances”, i.e. the acts of criminal hooliganism? Na-ah. Are Russians becoming in their values more like Westerners? What a silly question.

On the other hand – you know what’s true? That by the end of 2016, 81% of Russians considered themselves happy. And that during “crisis” 2014-2016 the index of happiness of the Russians never fell below 80%. Want more Zradas for Russophobes? I’m always happy to oblige! Nearly 150 000 Russians have returned to their ancestral Homeland in 2016 alone, thanks to the state-sponsored program of repatriation – 30 000 of them from the EU countries. Hard year, hard year indeed! Well, so much for the downtrodden masses.

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I know of a magic wand, but it is a wand that only one or two may rightly use, and only seldom. It is a fairy wand of great fear, stronger than those who use it – often frightful, often wicked to use. But whatever is touched with it is never again wholly common; whatever is touched with it takes a magic from outside the world.

“What is your wand?” cried the King, impatiently.

“There it is,” said Wayne; and pointed to the floor, where his sword lay flat and shining.

“The sword!” cried the King; and sprang up straight on the daïs.

“Yes, yes,” cried Wayne, hoarsely. “The things touched by that are not vulgar; the things touched by that-“

King Auberon made a gesture of horror.

– Gilbert K. Chesterton, The Napoleon of Nottinghill.

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Another quite predictable augury by Galeotti was made regarding the ultimate “futile” attempts of Russian “intervention” in Syria, with this ageing Guru demonstrating what an agile contortionist he is, turning himself into a human-pretzel, trying to unite his desire to jump on “Russia’s Syrian Quagmire” (™) bandwagon (he uses the term “mire”) and to dodge the blame for a factually incorrect and sometimes simply lying narrative of this prophesy.

The genre of “Russia in Syria” predictions is yet another one of those, when the supposedly mature and thinking analysts fall to the level of the above-mentioned prison themed “riddles”, with which they try to “contain” Russia in reality. Mark Galeotti surely does it a lot in his other “program work” of  “Russian Intervention in Syria can only Slow Down Assad’s Defeat” (25 November 2015).

As he points out elsewhere, Mighty Marko truly believes that Putin is surrounded by lying sycophants and, therefore, has no idea about the reality around him. These lackeys are either too afraid of the “Tsar” or have ulterior motives for distorting the information. Naturally, we are told to simply accept this dogma with no proof presented – and then carry on with the wild-wild ride which is the thought-train of one certain professional (read: paid) Russia Watcher, who, subsequently, bases constantly all of his conclusions on something he didn’t even bother to prove.

Magic of spells, chants and words is amazing thing – and as helpful as Dale Carnegie’s self-help books which, nonetheless, are sold by the millions. So it’s no wonder, that Galeotti resorts to it, repeating ad nauseum all the usual clichés and tropes about post-2014 Russia, that it is “diplomatically isolated”, that it’s “bogged down in the Ukraine”, that “attempts to persuade the West to lift its sanctions regime have failed” (no arguing here that Russia ever tried to do that in the first place!) and that Russia spreads chaos around the world for… evulz. Couple the fact that this meme (“Chaos as the only Russian export”) with, apparently, the sincere dogmatic belief of Galeotti that Putin is not a rational actor, and you have a recipe to create an ideal villain for the Western propaganda to crush repeatedly from the safe confines of their Cave.

Galeotti gives voice to his belief when saying the following:

“[T]hey’d like to get out of that particular mire, it’s costing them money and political capital, so given that the West isn’t willing to cooperate, they intervened in Syria and more or less said: “Look, we are willing to play nice in Syria as long as you basically allow us to rectify ourselves from the Donbas,” which is really what they’re after.”

Ah, Mr. Galeotti, Mr. Galeotti, sir! When you say “and [the Russians] more or less said” do you have, more or less, proof or is this yet another of your opinions pulled out of your all-knowing  aphedron? Hey, did you see what I just used here? I ran with the idea (unproved!) that Mr. Galeotti, literally, pulls insubstantial ideas out of his rectal orifice, and then capitalized on that claim even more by going an extra mile, with the claim that Mr. Galeotti’s end of the feed tract possesses the absolute knowledge! And you know what? This is exactly what Professor Galeotti does ALL THE TIME in his so-called analysis. Galeottis of the Russia-Watching world simply dictate us the terms of the narrative. You dare to disagree with them? Bash-bash you on your stupid head, you… stupid caveman!

Pfft – who cares about other damned facts?! Not Galeotti, that’s for sure. Otherwise, he’d know that Russian Ministry of Defenselily-livered market liberal zealot and ex-Finance Minister Kudrin, sickeningly handshakable kvetching hole of RBK and openly Russophobic rag Financial Times were of one opinion – the military operation costs Russia mere peanuts, figuratively speaking, probably in the area of 10% of the overall military budget. And it became apparent to none other than the guys in the Pentagon just one month after Galeotti made his prediction, and 3 (three) months since the inception of the campaign. The same article stresses that:

Russia’s intervention also appears to have strengthened its hand at the negotiating table. In recent weeks, Washington has engaged more closely with Russia in seeking a settlement to the war and backed off a demand for the immediate departure of Assad as part of any political transition.”

There you go, Mr. Galeottis’ claim about “wasting” political capital – in the trash can where it belongs. And that was, I remind you, just late 2015. Further down the road to the future (our present) all think-tankers will keep wailing and gnashing their teeth, that Russia “cheated” and “unfairly” inserted itself in ranks of decision makers and lords of fate for the entire Greater Middle East. Where was the promised “tradeoff” of Assad for Donbas – or vice versa? I remember how such speculations were all the rage for anyone who is someone in the tight knit of professional (read: paid) Russia watchers.

No, we are told – “Ignore that! Don’t pay attention to the man behind the curtain”. Didn’t Marko – The Magnificent Prestidigitator! – explain to the dumb-stuck audience in no-uncertain terms that:

Assad’s losing, the ground offensive they launched has bogged down, they’ve had a few minor gains but nothing else. All this current intervention can do is slow down the rate at which Assad losses, that’s the best they can really offer.”

and

Perversely, although everyone thought that Russia went to Syria to save Assad, what they are actually doing is going there so that Assad can be negotiated out rather than just losing power or facing a coup or whatever.”

And when asked about Putin’s prospects in 2016 vis-à-vis the West:

He basically burned his bridges in terms of friendship [with the West]: No one is going to be a friend of Russia in the West under the current regime”.

It was, I remind you, late November 2015, when all interviews with the Big Names of Russia-Watching were the same. I wonder – does Professor Galeotti feel himself, now, in the Year of Our Lord 2017, a tad bit… stupid? Humbled? Proved wrong? Or does the money he receives regularly for his chutzpah-filled auspices indeed, act as the best healing balm for a so-called expert proved time after time wrong and full of it?

Because come late February of 2016 and Mark Galeotti was singing a different kind of tune. Suddenly, a heretic notion has wormed its way into the esteemed Guru’s cranium – and writings. His Faithful would suddenly have to deal with the uncomfortable to even read and comprehend notion that “many of the rebel groups, some of which are little more than bandits and warlords’ retinues” are, maybe, not so brave, courageous and democratic after all. And saying out loud, in the early 2016, that “the rebels are a ragtag collection of units, leaders and movements, with often wildly different aims and approaches” – gah, what made the Professor so courageous after all?! Did the Kremlin pay him to write that?

What about yet another Downfall of the Regime (™) , propagated by the West – the one of Bashar al-Assad? Nothing… and Galeotti’s moaning could be practically heard while reading this comment:

The Assad regime, which had been on the defensive and even facing potential fragmentation, has been stabilized and revived. Moscow’s claim to a say in Syria’s future cannot now meaningfully be challenged.”

But-but-but! What about Russia’s diplomatic isolation then?! What about “wasted political capital”?

In the process, Western attempts to isolate Russia have been all but abandoned — most vividly shown in January, when US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland sat down with Russian Presidential Representative Vladislav Surkov to talk about the future of eastern Ukraine.”

Obviously upset (and extremely… astral-fisted) Marko the Magnificent had to admit:

“[T]he Russians defied Western expectations and their own track record. The furious “optempo” (operational tempo) was maintained, with sometimes a hundred sorties a day being launched. Planes were generally kept flying; there were not the disastrous mechanical failures one could have predicted.”

By withdrawing, Putin avoids getting sucked into an open-ended commitment, reassures the Russian public that this is no rerun of the 10-year Soviet war in Afghanistan, presents himself as a peacemaker, and reduces the risks to his forces in Syria….”

Suddenly, our brave and outspoken Mr. Galeotti becomes more and more morbidly subdued and quiet on that. What a miraculous transformation indeed – no doubt, a result of this particular Guru’s constant exercises aimed to open all of his chakras and clean his Third Eye’s connection with the Supreme Realm of Gods and Spirits! And, btw – from this very moment onward his articles will go downhill – less blister and jingoism and more whining and pleading. Improvement in quality? Naaaah.

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Modern civilization has bred a race with brains like those of rabbits and we who are the heirs of the witchdoctor and the voodoo. We artists who have been so long the despised are about to take over control”.

– Ezra Pound

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But there were other – many-many of them! – screw ups in the analytical and saying of sooths field by Mark Galeotti – less global but screwy none the less. Here are some of them, “worthy” of mention.

1) Galeotti infamously claimed on the pages of such “august” magazine as  “Foreign Policy” that Putin “has even physically withdrawn…”, that “in today’s Russia, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu appears not to have been part of the final discussions on whether to seize Crimea” and, most of all, that Sergei Lavrov – of all people! – is sidelined by the increasingly insular and paranoid Putin. Obligatory unsupported claims of “a distinct neo-Soviet flavor that doesn’t even play well on domestic TV” from Galeotti are… obligatory.

This moment is probably as good as any to inform the general public that Professor Mark Galeotti has neither Diplomatic, nor military, no, Heaven forbid, actual political (as being in charge of anything) background. He, as I’ve been saying since the beginning of this essay, is a Guru – a person lacking needed experience in the vast majority of the spheres and who, nonetheless, gets his valuable and purely dilettante’s opinion taken seriously by everyone.

This is also a good moment to draw your attention to the fact that Galeotti claims to have access to many numerous “insiders” all across Russia… and that no one questions his bullshit claim. Like the one source of his, allegedly “close to the Foreign ministry”, which claimed that: “…what Assad was given is you are going to be going. We’re going to help you make sure that it’s as congenial a process for you and your family as possible, but frankly start getting your head around that, you are going to be going.”

We are talking about 100% reliable Mark Galeotti, trusting however imaginary obscure source way back in late 2015 – early 2016. Well… look at the world we live in now! Either our esteemed Russia Watcher was owned, or he made up the source to begin with.

2) An obligatory exercise in Putinology, when Mark Galeotti explains (without any proof, of course!) to the hoi polloi what Vladimir Putin wants; really, really wants:

In many ways Putin’s view of Russia these days is that he wants it out of the global order… Now he’s come back, in part because his views have changed, in part because he feels the West betrayed him and in part, I think, because he is increasingly looking at his historical legacy. In some ways his catchword these days is sovereignty, but when he says sovereignty it’s a slightly different sovereignty than we might understand it. His notion of sovereignty, to be blunt, is that Russia stands alone and that Russia should not be dictated to by any outside force or power—so not the United States, not the European Union, but also not necessarily international law, not necessarily international institutions. It’s frankly a very 19th century notion that we are strong enough to ensure that no one can tell us what to do. And it’s a sovereignty that is clearly linked to your capacity to defend it.”

Perceptive readers, who’ve read all linked articles provided by me here, might notice that in virtually all of them Professor Galeotti basically just repeats the same old and tried clichés one article/interview after another. He said the same thing in the previously mentioned article, when he talked about the horrible gall and nerve of Russia’s which, therefore:

“…deserves to have a voice, to be listened to, he feels Russia deserves to be able basically to veto the impact of international norms and organizations inside its own borders. His sense of Russian sovereignty is that the Kremlin should be able to control everything that happens within Russia’s frontiers and have influence over what happens beyond it.”

For Mark Galeotti, these are Bad Things! In this regard, he reminds of the slavishly faithful to their barin “house serfs” (rus. “дворня”), wistful and hateful when they see another ordinary peasant serf buying himself and his family out of the bondage and becoming a free man. Envy and horror drives them nuts, because serfdom became in their minds a norm and a preferable alternative to the repugnantly dangerous freedom.

3) Most hilariously (and unfortunately) of note, was Galeotti’s prediction that KPRF will turn into a serious challenge come the September elections in 2016. He wasn’t alone – a couple of other pundits on the West (most notably – Fred Weir from the Christian Science Monitor) raised their hopes high in regards of the KPRF future prospects, while, deep inside, they surely were trembling at the thought that their own Russophobia and the personal dislike of Putin made them to root for the gosh-damned-commies! Galeotti in one of his previous articles called the KPRF electorate lumpens (wow… how… thoughtful, humanistic and… handshakable!).

Galeotti is, of course, lying in his piece while perpetuating the fable that Bolotnaya protests were “the largest anti-government rallies since Soviet times”. Saying otherwise would draw attention of goldfish-attention-span Westerners to such “ancient events” as the iconic (back then in 1998) miners’ strike on Gorbaty Bridge in Moscow, or, indeed, to the hundreds-of-thousands-strong protests against the monetization of benefits in 2004-2005. No, the West desires to feel the Sympathetic Magic – to see kreakls and so-called members of the “middle class” protesting – not the filthy proletariat! They, for the west, don’t count.

Another extremely naïve belief held by Galeotti (and by a few western so-called “honest” journalists who bothered to report on KPRF in the 2016 electoral year) was that there appeared “a new generation of Communist Party members, disgruntled 20- and 30-somethings, for whom it offers the only structure able to articulate any kind of opposition politics. They are generally not Soviet-style communists, actually being closer to European social democrats”. Needless to say – not true. Believe me – the Russian LEFT is nothing akin to the SJW-ridden Western Leftists hell of Trots and Identity politics fanatics, though the West did have short period of wishful thinking and Galeotti serves here as an apt example of such misconceptions.

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Of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh

– Ecclesiastes 12:12

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In the late Perestroika period there was a gigantic paradigm shift, as the people saw old truths and their entire world around them crumble. Non incidentally, it was a time when the great “Healers” and “ESPers” like A. Chumak and A. Kashpirovsky became idols of millions all across the USSR and then Russia. People believed them more than they believed the political leaders and their promises of the miracle. Instead, the people chose to put their trust into words (and intricate hand waves) of peculiarly dodgy characters, who claimed to be “instructed in Arcane arts” by the voices in their heads and who propagated the ideas of “non-traditional medicine”.

They were superstars. They were media legends. They were unquestionable authorities for a people who suddenly rushed with reckless abandon into the dark area of thought of “Nothing is True – Everything is Possible”.

The most memetic achievement of Kashpirovsky and such was the fact that they were allowed on the central Soviet TV (obligatory – state controlled) in prime time for the retranslation of their “séances”. The power of mighty “wizards” was such, that they could “charge” various liquids, salves and objects with their “positive energy”. And they were SO mighty, that could do this even through the TV screen! A picture of 3 liter glass jars, usually used to can tomatoes or cucumbers for winter, now filled with water instead and now standing in line before the TV screen, while the entire family was watching with half-beating hearts the act of magic – these were the pictures of that era.

“Blessed Democratic 90s” (well, “Blessed” according to a certain rather tiny group of people) saw a sucking hell-hole of irrationality and massive all-believing psychosis taking a bold step forward to a full blown Abyssal Pit. It was a time of various totalitarian sects and cults running free and unhindered (Russia’s Western partners call it “freedom of consciousness and religion”), when people were willing to surrender their will, personality – and personal wealth – to various mystic Gurus. It was a time of financial pyramids and fraudsters, of banks going bust on a regular basis and of people willing to surrender their trust, their future – and their remaining personal savings – to various financial Gurus. It was a time when Kashpirovsky volunteered to help resolve the hostage crisis in the aftermath of the terrorist attack on Budyonovsk in 1995 – by using his mighty hypnotic powers to put Shamil Basayev and his goons to sleep. Kashpirovsky fainted at the sight of the hostages, bloodied and frightened, kept in an animal-like state in small tents, 20-30 in each.

It was the time when the Russians were told to “vote with their heart” and surrender their trust, their future – and a mere remaining handful of money somehow preserved to that moment – to the Great Democrat Boris Yeltsin.

…Magic. Hell, yeah… Do you think that you are immune to it?

Magic is a prosthesis of thought for a monkey-like creature which “thinks” itself human, but which, in fact, has not yet learned how to think (or, in our case, it has already forgotten how). Magic is this terrible Law of Simulacrum, unequivocally demanding to eat worthy fellow cavemen to become like them. Magic is the Law of Symbols, when for self-assertion it is important not what you are, but what you have.

Magic is the Law of the Herd, of flocks and generic thinking, when you are not separate, when you are self-identified in the world only insofar as you identify yourself with some gang (group, clan – or a “safespace” in the web). After all, what is “magic(k)”? Magic(k) by definition is the manipulation of information (words, symbols, signs) in order to manipulate reality.

That’s what they do – Gurus. The proverbial Legion of them. They lead the process (and in some areas – the Progress) so back in time to the magical, to the tribal form of existence, as was necessary for them to eke for themselves a lofty parasitic niche, which would allow them carefree irresponsible lifestyle for centuries to come.

And while I don’t hold high hopes for humanity to come back on the road of rational thought and march away from these self imposed intellectual Dark Ages any time soon, there is one nasty thought that makes me smile nevertheless. Even early civilizations, even Dark Ages primitives despised magic – and fought against it and its practitioners. Having for a change one particular parasite stripped of his patchwork “sacral” cloak, magic wand or stuff, of his poultices and potions and just thrown out of his cozy picture-covered cave into the world and told to pull his weight like everyone else – that would be nice. Because the patience of the Tribe is not boundless. And one day, one mistake and false incantation too many, the Guru, the Shaman will find on its own skin a plethora of problems typical for our Global North.

 

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1,914 Responses to The Credibility Gap That Ought To Be

  1. moscowexile says:

    Forbes, 3 days ago:

    JUL 6, 2017 @ 09:59 AM
    Sorry Senator McCain, Russia No Longer Just ‘A Gas Station Masquerading As A Country’

    Three years ago, Russia-hating Senator John McCain insulted the country’s escape from Soviet Communism by calling it a “gas station masquerading as a country.” His comments were at least partially true. Russia is a commodities economy, and oil and gas dominates the country’s budget. For the past decade, Russia has been trying to move away from its oil dependence. Goldman Sachs thinks they’ve finally done it.

    So, sorry Senator…Russia is much more than a gas station.

    Earlier this year, in fact, its biggest toy store chain, Detsky Mir, raised $355 million in an initial public offering on the Moscow Stock Exchange.

    The Russian economy is increasingly becoming self-sufficient and less oil-price dependent, Goldman analysts led by Geydar Mamedov wrote in a report from their Moscow subsidiary dated July 5. Goldman and archrival J.P. Morgan became two of the top three firms with the most M&A deals in Russia so far this year. VTB Capital was also tops.

    Russia’s Finance Ministry’s focus on capping state expenses and making the tax system more efficient is translating into higher non-oil revenues in the budget. This is designed to reduce the state’s dependence on oil prices and cuts the break-even oil price for the budget. The impact of oil price shocks on domestic inflation, and the ruble should decline sharply in the years ahead, says Mamedov.

    Russia had to redo its budget in 2014 when they priced oil to average out at $80, instead it was more like $60. They were forced to do the same in 2015 when they based oil prices on $60 per barrel for their budget. The cuts impacted military spending, but were also felt in poorer parts of Russia still reeling from the break up of the Soviet Union and back-to-back recessions.

    Russia’s budget revenues in the first quarter are up 30% year over year and 10% on the quarter, so this country is not going broke. (Sorry, Senator.) Oil and gas revenues are up 53% this year and non-energy-related revenues are up 15% yearly and 12% quarterly, which is more than can be said about oil. It is worth noting the dynamics in non-energy revenues of the budget, which are rising thanks to domestic demand and fights against tax evasion.

    The Finance Ministry’s “budget rule” — set to be made official in 2018 — requires all state revenues when the oil price exceeds $40 a barrel be transferred to the reserves fund, rather than used to increase spending. By putting the money away, instead of counting on it for government spending programs, it reduces Russia’s dependence on oil revenue and domestic economic activity becomes less oil-price driven. Goldman analysts believe the new budget rule should also lower the impact of oil prices on the ruble, as the Ministry of Finance will likely look to buy currency in exchange for these excess oil revenues. Given that the state receives in excess of 80% of the marginal oil revenue from the energy sector, these cash flows will insulate the balance of payments from the direct impact of a change in oil prices. The piggy bank will be fuller.

    Russian troll!!!

    • kirill says:

      The article avoids key information: oil and gas industry account for around 8% of GDP and the consolidated Russian budget depends 17% on oil and gas. Note that this “dependence” of the budget on oil and goes means precisely fuck all for Russia’s economic development level since the tax system targets the resource sector and offers the population a 13% flat income tax. So all the wanking retard NATzO journalists and pundits just demonstrate their malice and idiocy when they try to latch onto the “high” oil and gas tax revenue in Russia. The US and Canadian governments make most of their tax money off of the population through income taxes. So Russians have more tax freedom.

    • Cortes says:

      Meanwhile, Paul Craig Roberts has a look at the latest statistics about the health of the US economy:

      http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/07/10/ever-official-lies-us-government/

      Officially things could scarcely be rosier for the Potomac Panglossians; in the real world, not so much. The food parcels for high school kids are still being made up by volunteers and distributed each Friday in my friend’s area of Michigan.

  2. moscowexile says:

    Сдох, пёс смердящий…
    The stinking dog is dead …

    Yesterday, 9 July, during the celebration of the 110th anniversary of the birth of the leader of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, Roman Shukhevych, in the village Krakovets, Yavorovskiy District, Lviv Region, the Ukraine, died the chairman of the of OUN-UPA regional fraternity, Pyotr Vushko.

    The 91-year-old veteran of the UPA was making a speech in front of the crowd near the monument to Shukhevych and lost consciousness. Country doctors tried to revive him but paramedics who arrived 20 minutes later from Yavorov pronounced him dead.

    Pyotr Vushko was born on June 18, 1926, in the village of Kobylnitsa Voloshkaya in the former Yavorivskiy District (now in Poland). He joined the ranks of the OUN in 1944 under the name “Orlik”. He was sentenced to death by a military tribunal, but later the sentence was changed to one of 25 years in concentration camps and 5 years deprivation of his civil rights.

    Vushko was also head of the regional union of political prisoners and was a member of the board of the regional branch of veterans.

    How very sad.

    What a great loss to West Ukrainian society.

  3. moscowexile says:


    25.11.2015: In Yekaterinburg, Putin, the President of the RF, together with all the country’s top leaders, opened the gigantic 22-thousand-square-metre Yeltsin Genocide Centre, which had been budgeted at 7 billion rubles

    In 2017, Putin is going to have opened some one-and-a-half kilometres from the Kremlin a 7- thousand-square-metre, 1.33-billion ruble Moscow branch of the Yeltsin Genocide Centre.

    All of which is right and proper because even Hitler could not destroy our Soviet motherland to such a degree as did the drunken and destructive Yeltsin.

    Der Jeltsin war unser Unglück?

    • yalensis says:

      Fake news!

      Putin will never open a Yeltsin Genocide Center.
      However, the day will come (Baba Vanga told me in a vision) when Lenin will rise from his tomb and re-establish order. Including building a Yeltsin Genocide Center and Theme Park!

      • moscowexile says:

        At least neither Putin nor diddly Dima are on their knees in front of the Yeltsin memorial slab, which is how Pyotr Poroshenko, that porcine prick of a Ukraine president would have done in order to show the world his grovelling reverence for a deceased person’s memory.

  4. moscowexile says:

    Stars and Stripes

    STUTTGART, Germany— The U.S. military deployed Patriot missiles to Lithuania on Monday to take part in upcoming war games, marking the first such deployment of the sophisticated missile defense system to the small Baltic nation, Lithuania’s defense ministry announced.

    • marknesop says:

      http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/why-americas-enemies-fear-the-patriot-missile-defense-system-19833

      Unlike the older Nike Hercules system, Patriot was truck-mounted and mobile. A firing battery could roll into position and be ready to fire in a less than an hour. A battery consisted of a phased array radar set, engagement control station, electric power plant, an antenna mast group, communications relay group, and up to eight launching stations controlling four missiles each.

      But when they want to be covert and shoot something down and then blame it on someone else, they just sneak one launcher in because everybody knows the launcher will function independently just as well as the full system, just like the Buk.

      What? It won’t?

      Like all medium- to long-range SAMs, Patriot is a radar-guided missile and relies on radar to provide airspace surveillance, target detection, classification and tracking, and finally missile guidance to the actual missile. The AN/MPQ-53 radar system is used for PAC-2, the antiaircraft version of Patriot, while the AN/MPQ-65 radars is used by the ballistic-missile defense version, PAC-3. Both radars use passive electronically scanned array radars that use flat, billboard-like radar arrays similar to those on an Aegis cruiser or destroyer.

      Oh – and not everyone fears it, either.

      Third, defending the United States against a major Russian or Chinese ballistic missile attack is currently not feasible. A reliable and affordable defense that could protect America against a Russian ICBM and SLBM force that could launch some 1,500 ballistic missile warheads simply does not exist. While the Chinese force is much smaller, numbering several dozen ICBMs, it probably includes countermeasures that would seriously complicate disruption by missile defense systems.

  5. et Al says:

    I posted an article a page back by Max Blumenthal on Alternet’s Greyzone. Thanks to ‘b’ of Moon of Alabama for reminding us what a total little establishment & empire sniffing shit Blumenthal was before he switched sides, now even more so since his hypocrisy is on show for all to see. Enjoy ‘b’s delicious takedown.

    Moon of Alabama: Syria – The Alternet Grayzone Of Smug Turncoats
    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/07/syria-a-grayzone-of-opinionated-turncoats.html

    Max Blumenthal is a well connected and known author who has done work on the Palestinian cause from a somewhat leftish perspective. He is also an arrogant and ignorant showman.

    Blumenthal currently edits the Alternet Grayzone project. In their recent writings he and his co-writers profess to dislike the al-Qaeda led opposition in Syria. Yet it is exactly the same opposition they earlier vehemently supported.

    Yesterday the Real News Network interviewed Blumethal on his recent piece about CNN’s al-Qaeda promotion. The headline: Max Blumenthal on How the Media Covers Syria. During the interview Blumenthal laments the failure of progressive media on Syria:…
    ####

    Plenty more at the link!

  6. J.T. says:

    A little thinking out loud on the definition of “fake news”:

    Real thoughts on “fake news”

  7. et Al says:

    Sic Semper Tyrannis: The Saudi and UAE “crownies” are AQ supporters …
    http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/

    A leaked document in Qatar’s embassy and a letter to Qatari Foreign Minister Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al Thani on October 26, 2016, show Mohammed bin Salman and Mohammed bin Zayed’s support for certain key al-Qaeda members in the Arabian Peninsula,” Arabic language al-Badil newspaper wrote.

    Based on the documents, US Treasury Undersecretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence said that the Saudi and Abu Dhabi crown princes have established continued contacts with two Yemeni nationals, namely Ali Abkar al-Hassan and Abdollah Faisal Ahdal, who are on the US blacklist of most wanted terrorists.” southfront quoting al-badil newspaper…
    ####

    More at the link. This is wonderful shit slinging. If the Gulf will not hang together, then they will hang apart and go down in flames (hopefully),

  8. et Al says:

    A reminder.

    Consortium News: Hiding US Lies About Libyan Invasion
    https://consortiumnews.com/2017/07/07/hiding-us-lies-about-libyan-invasion/

    Exclusive: In 2016, when a British parliamentary report demolished the excuse for the U.S. and its allies invading Libya in 2011, it should have been big news, but the U.S. mainstream media looked the other way, reports Joe Lauria.

    By Joe Lauria (Corrects to show that a Times story was published.)

    In George Orwell’s 1949 dystopian novel 1984, the protagonist Winston Smith’s job was to delve into The Times of London archive and rewrite stories that could cause trouble for the totalitarian government ruling Britain. For instance, if the government made a prediction of wheat or automobile production in their five-year plan and that prediction did not come true, Winston would go into the archives and “correct” the numbers in the article on record.

    In writing a response the other day to a critic of my recently published book on Hillary Clinton’s electoral defeat, I was researching how the U.S. corporate media covered a 2016 British parliamentary report on Libya that showed how then Secretary of State Clinton and other Western leaders lied about an impending genocide in Libya to justify their 2011 attack on that country….

    …Hillary Clinton, who according to leaked emails was the architect of the attack on Libya, said four days earlier: “When the Libyan people sought to realize their democratic aspirations, they were met by extreme violence from their own government.”

    Sen. John Kerry, at the time chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, chimed in: “Time is running out for the Libyan people. The world needs to respond immediately.”
    ####

    Plenty more at the link and all the more reason that the Pork Pie News Networks need to be flushed away to make way for those who actually want to do their jobs and will not be fobbed, bought or intimidated off. Or co-opted.

    • et Al says:

      Via Antiwar.com

    • marknesop says:

      So say we; so say we all. And that’s the tried-and-true formula which has allowed Washington so many tilts at the regime-change windmill – mention extreme violence exercised by a brutal dictator who has no regard for human rights (which have passed into the realm of sanctity that none dares challenge), and stress the urgency which does not allow time for discussion. Act now, talk later. If a disaster ensues, it was worth the risk – it might have worked out. Time for the phase I have mentioned so many times before: say it with me, will you? “This is no time for finger-pointing. Nobody could have foreseen that this would happen. We all have to work together to solve the problem.”

      I’m sure it’s not a coincidence that John Kerry, known liar, claims to have personally seen ironclad evidence that Russia shot down MH17 – he saw the missile shot, and saw MH17’s trace drop off the scope. He knows.

      Show of hands – who believes him? Following on from that, why can he not be held to account for such a monstrous lie?

  9. et Al says:

    Neuters via Antiwar.com: Putin plane makes detour avoiding Poland, Baltics on way to G20: flight tracker
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-g20-germany-putin-flight-idUSKBN19S2UI

    …According to the FlightRadar24 website, a Russian government jet flying from Moscow to Hamburg on Thursday deviated from the direct route over Belarus and Poland, which was once a Soviet bloc state but joined the Western military alliance after the fall of communism.

    Instead the Ilyushin with the registration number RA-96022 flew over the Baltic Sea, crossing on its way territory of neutral Finland and Sweden before entering the airspace of Denmark and Germany, both NATO members…

    …Planes carrying Putin over the past 12 months always took direct routes when flying over EU countries, according to data on FlightRadar24. They did not fly over Ukraine, which has closed off its airspace to flights by Russian airlines….
    ####

    So f/king what Neuters? What, no conspiracy theories to off? Didn’t have the time to call up Pavel Felgenhauer to get his take? WTFITLS that purports to be news?

    • Jen says:

      Simplest explanations for the flight deviation are that (1) weather conditions over Poland and Belarus made flying to Hamburg in time for the G20 summit difficult, and/or (2) Poland and the Baltics denied permission to the Ilyushin to use their airspace.

    • marknesop says:

      Perhaps the Russian government prefers to avoid paying overflight fees to those countries. Although in the case of the Baltics, it’d probably amount to a sum that would maybe buy a box of strawberries, considering it’s based on distance that you are in national airspace.

  10. et Al says:

    Neuters via Antiwar.com: Germany begins withdrawing troops from Turkish air base
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-turkey-airforce-idUSKBN19U0IF

  11. et Al says:

    Xinhuanet via Antiwar.com: 2 policemen injured in projectile attack in Saudi Arabia’s Qatif
    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2017-07/08/c_136428537.htm

    Two Saudi policemen were injured in a projectile attack in Saudi Arabia’s Eastern province, interior ministry tweeted on Saturday….

    …The attack is the third one in line occurred in Qatif region of the province.

    A policeman was killed and six others injured on Thursday in a similar attack, while another projectile attack killed a policeman and injured three on Tuesday.

    Violence in Qatif witnessed escalation since the beginning of this year after the announcement of the construction plan to replace deserted houses, which were taken as hideouts by fugitives in Al Masoura neighborhood….
    ####

    How long will it be to tipping point? Two to five years? Less?

  12. Northern Star says:

    @LytPOS
    “Our generous host Mark may correct me if I’m wrong, but comment section is comment section. Not some designated “blog discussion roundtable” by your volition. It’s first and chief use is to comment on articles published here by our host or by invited authors. The comment section, in short, is not to entertain you.”

    It’s a blog discussion round table by definition….consult the blog archives…moron

    ” It’s first and chief use is to comment on articles published here by our host or by invited authors.”

    NO shitstain!!! One need merely look at the comments posted on this (your) article today…..many of them don”t have a GD thing to do with Shamanism….some of the commenters post like that on a **daily basis**…and have done so as long as I have been here.

    Interesting thing is..You continue to post mostly ad hominem BS to me..as in this current exchange initiated by you…
    I,on the other hand, attack only when attacked and ignore people like you who IMO have no substance. Sorta says something…about your lack of intellectual substance.

    :O)

    • Northern Star says:

      “One need merely look at the comments posted on this (your) article today..”
      One doesn’t have to look too far…
      :O)

    • yalensis says:

      Give it up, N.S. I don’t think you have a single friend left here on this forum.
      You went too far when you attacked Jen.

    • Lyttenburgh says:

      “It’s a blog discussion round table by definition….consult the blog archives…moron”

      And I recommend for you the following course of action:

      a) Move your hand with the “mouse” towards the Comment Policy section above.
      b) Click it.
      c) See whether there is anything about “roundtable” of yours in the text.
      d) ???
      e) Enjoy the feeling of being a widely recognized dumbass.

      OTOH, if I might just quote from Mark:

      “Although sometimes nothing gets the job done like a bit of profanity, I’m not keen on the really graphic stuff, and might delete or edit it. Respect your fellow commenters, please, and don’t direct racist, sexist or excessively crude remarks to them. If you’re making an argument that something posted is inaccurate, substantiate your opinion with a link.”

      Hmm… Lets see… Userperson NS believes the KS’ comment section to be his own “roundtable” despite the fact that nothing says it is in the blog’s “hat”…. At the same time, userperson NS violates the few existing “commandments” to which commenters should kinda-sorta oblige. Gee, what can I say here?

      “NO shitstain!!! One need merely look at the comments posted on this (your) article today…..many of them don”t have a GD thing to do with Shamanism….”

      If you think that my article was about shamanism, then you didn’t read it. But I also doubt that you really read any previous article on KS as well, seeing the blog as your persona; “sagespace” and “roundtable”.

      “Interesting thing is..You continue to post mostly ad hominem BS to me..as in this current exchange initiated by you…
      I,on the other hand, attack only when attacked and ignore people like you who IMO have no substance. Sorta says something…about your lack of intellectual substance.”

      Says a person who:

      a) Used low grade profanity targeting two commenters just one page ago.

      b) Who has a history of angry outbursts in these comment section.

      c) Who is still unrepentant and continues his assholish behavior.

      …Yeaaaaaah, suuuure. As you say.

      • marknesop says:

        Well, just to clear something up, in the interest of fairness – you can call it a ’round table’ or a ‘discussion’ or ‘Meryl Streep’ – it is a fact that subjects which have nothing whatever to do with the post under which they appear are regularly introduced here, by any number of people. I don’t insist that commenters stay on topic, and never have.

  13. et Al says:

    Independent:
    https://www.independent.co.uk/News/world/americas/us-politics/trump-jr-russian-lawyer-steele-dossier-natalia-veselnitskaya-gps-fusion-a7834541.html

    …A spokesman for the President’s legal team told The Independent they now believed Ms Veselnitskaya and her colleagues had misrepresented who they were and who they worked for…

    …In a statement, Mark Corallo added: “Specifically, we have learned that the person who sought the meeting is associated with Fusion GPS, a firm which according to public reports, was retained by Democratic operatives to develop opposition research on the President and which commissioned the phony Steele dossier.”

    Fusion GPS, which is based in Washington DC and was established by former Wall Street Journal reporters Glenn Simpson and Peter Fritsch, found itself in the spotlight earlier this year after it emerged it was behind an “oppo research” dossier containing unproven and often salacious allegations about Mr Trump.

    The company had originally been hired by Republican rivals of Mr Trump during the primary campaign. After he secured the party’s nomination, the company was instead paid by Democratic financial supporters of Ms Clinton. In the summer of 2016, GPS hired former British intelligence agent, Christopher Steele, to help their work….
    ####

    Plenty more smoke at the link. What is is with the Americans needing to have their dick in every pie? Once a dick is burnt, doesn’t one learn a lesson? Apparently not. That Fusion GPS seems to be playing both sides smells far more of arms length US intel operations, though natural greed certainly cannot be ruled out. I’m looking forward to this being dissected and Fusion GPS having its balls roasted publicly. Everyone can play The Link Game because no actual evidence is required to be produced. Genius!

    • marknesop says:

      The Donald is in a unique position; he is not a member of the political class, and likely this term, if he makes it, will be his last fling at politics, to mutual satisfaction – I doubt it’s as much of a gas as he thought it would be. He therefore owes nobody anything, and doesn’t need anybody’s support after he rides into the sunset; that’s what independently wealthy means.

      He can therefore nail anyone’s hide to the barn door without fear that it will damage his political aspirations or legacy.

      Do it, Donald. Drop the hammer.

  14. Northern Star says:

    @Jen
    Calling you a bitch was perhaps not necessary and I do apologize for that.
    F yalensis..I do so because **I** think an apology appropriate.
    Your clarifications about your comments about me seemed to me a bit problematic. However I don’t think they merit any extended debate.

    • Jen says:

      Apology accepted.
      I’m sorry if what I said about some of your comments looking as if they were baiting people, the way Karl Haushofer’s posts appear to do, upset you … this was not to insinuate that you had the same motivations he may have. My comment was intended as a friendly warning. I think it’s still valid. If you want to play Devil’s Advocate – and sometimes that’s not a bad thing to do if you think we’re all agreeing with one another too much on certain topics – you need to let us know.

      • yalensis says:

        Just saw this after I already posted my previous comment.
        Okay, NS, so you apologized to Jen, and you did it of your own volition, that’s good.
        And it’s good that you do it one-on-one with her, and not because of my outburst, that’s double-good. I have a tendency to stick my nose in where it’s not needed, that’s true.

        But then you still called Lyttenburgh a “shit-stain” in your earlier comment.
        I don’t think I can still be friends with somebody who harbors so much rage and calls other people such horrible names. It’s just not civilized. No matter what the provocation.
        So, Lyttenburgh honestly believes you are a troll. If you’re not a troll, then you just needed to demonstrate that by being super-reasonable and explaining yourself, not exploding and calling people names.

        • Northern Star says:

          “But then you still called Lyttenburgh a “shit-stain” in your earlier comment.
          I don’t think I can still be friends with somebody who harbors so much rage and calls other people such horrible names. It’s just not civilized. No matter what the provocation”

          Grow up Yalensis…with or without his use of profanity Lyttenburg is .a POS insofar as I am concerned….one need not use profanity to be insulting and or demeaning of someone.

          You are at a social gathering..a party..whatever. There is known fact bad blood between Yalensis and X. Would it not be completely fucked up for either of you to go and fuck with the other?? YES OR NO yalensis *Every* exchange between myself and your boyfriend was initiated by Lyttenburgh. Sow the wind… or perhaps I should say Troll the wind!

          “So, Lyttenburgh honestly believes you are a troll. ”

          Motherfuck Lyttenburgh’s beliefs…I need to prove that something this silly clown has in his mind is false???..LOL!!!

          The Nazis believed the jews belonged in ovens….so were Jews to go around being super exemplary in their behavior to disprove Nazi garbage???? I don’t think so.

          “harbors so much rage” So you- by your powers of clairvoyance and telepathy- can somehow know and psychoanalyze my moods or frame of mind!! Really…..??
          Again yalensis…..Grow up.

          “horrible names”.??..Hmmmm…..Let’s see… can we recall the last time Yalensis went after kirill????

          IMO You are clever..smart..even gifted in many respects. However I am not here to be either your friend or enemy.
          Can we leave it at that?

          • Lyttenburgh says:

            “Grow up Yalensis…with or without his use of profanity Lyttenburg is .a POS insofar as I am concerned….”

            Coming rich from a person who not once or twice, but regularly resorted to profanity as the way of communicating his own butthurtness and dissing other commenters.

            “*Every* exchange between myself and your boyfriend was initiated by Lyttenburgh. Sow the wind… or perhaps I should say Troll the wind!”

            Once again – coming rich coming from our troll and baiter de jour

            “Motherfuck Lyttenburgh’s beliefs…I need to prove that something this silly clown has in his mind is false???..LOL!!!”

            I based my accusations on the commonly accepted descriptions of the “trolling” phenomena. On what do you base you defense?

            “So you- by your powers of clairvoyance and telepathy- can somehow know and psychoanalyze my moods or frame of mind!! Really…..??”

            Says a person, who:

            A) Regularly resorts to profanity at the commenters who dare to express views he doesn’t like

            B) Who regularly uses multiple exclamation and/or question marks in his sentences.

            […]

            No need to call ESPer here.

      • Northern Star says:

        I post to comment on geopolitical situations,current events in historical context and the actors involved.

        I do NOT come here to critique or evaluate the character or persona or personality-as I can only imagine them- of the other Stooges on Mark’s blog.

        For that matter most of your comments are concerned with issues, not other stooges.

  15. et Al says:

    Neuters: Siemens to press charges after turbines moved from Russia to Crimea
    https://in.reuters.com/article/ukraine-crisis-crimea-power-idINKBN19V251

    Germany’s Siemens said on Monday at least two of its gas turbines had been moved “against its will” from Russia to Crimea, a region subject to sanctions barring EU firms providing it with energy technology…

    …Siemens, which has repeatedly insisted it was not aware the turbines were destined for Crimea, said it would press criminal charges against those responsible for diverting the turbines….

    …Siemens added that it would file lawsuits to halt any further deliveries to Crimea and to return already-dispatched equipment to its original destination. It said it was evaluating what additional actions were possible. …

    #####

    Is this a PR/face saving stunt? Where exactly are they going to file charges, Moscow, Berlin or Brussels. Maybe if they string it out until after Merkel’s re-election they can gently let it drop. Otherwise, they could always just f/k off and leave Russia. Now that would be good for their business. I don’t see them being among approved bidders for Russian projects in future.

    • yalensis says:

      There’s some hinky stuff going on with these turbines. I just posted Part III of my series this morning on the turbines.
      And wouldn’t you know it, Prof. Robinson posted a comment on my blog with a link to a lenta piece claiming that the turbines ARE in fact of native Russian manufacture!
      (Something which I tend to doubt, but I’ll look into this….)

      Anyhow, now I’m as confused as a hare at a dog show, and I don’t know what to believe any more.
      I’ll continue my posts tomorrow, but taking the lenta link into account.
      Bottom line: Somebody out there is lying – GASP!
      Either the turbines are German, or they’re not!
      And either the Germans knew the turbines were destined for Crimea, or they didn’t know!
      And either the Russians are lying about the turbines being of native Russian manufacture, or….

      • PaulR says:

        I enjoy creating confusion!

      • marknesop says:

        Perhaps they are Siemens products manufactured to Siemens specifications in Russia, under license. That’s far from uncommon, although I’m not sure to what extent it is done in Russia. But we know it is, because Russia intended to buy only the first two MISTRAL Class assault carriers from France – until the US State Department stepped in and fucked everything up for everybody, including and mostly France – and build the second pair in Russia.

      • et Al says:

        Thanks for that yalensis. I really should visit your blog more often!

      • cartman says:

        Doesn’t Russia make its own turbines for hydro plants? How different are those from natural gas ones?

        • marknesop says:

          Indeed it does; in fact, the newest is – surprise!! – a joint venture, built at Yaroslavl, of Russia’s Inter RAO and United Engine Corporation and…General Electric, Number 14 on the Forbes List, with a market cap of $261 Billion, Number 8 in America’s biggest publicly-traded companies.

          I don’t need to tell you it’s a dog-eat-dog world, and GE wouldn’t be in it if it wasn’t making money and didn’t see the potential to make much more. So you can bet its board sympathizes with the fix Siemens is in, and has its fingers crossed they will find a solution – because in the end, the whole charade about Crimea still being a part of Ukraine and Russia is expected to give it back is just posturing. Corporate America is nothing if not hardheadedly practical, and it knew before the ink was dry that Crimea was Russian forever. Everything else is politics, and in a way I wish GE would get caught in a Crimea squeeze like Siemens is, because it would force the issue. Who runs America? Corporations and oligarchs. Politics is useful only so long as it is serving the realization of your objectives. As soon as it gets in the way of growing influence and making money…pffft!!!

    • marknesop says:

      I’m pretty confident that they are pissed off they have to do anything, just because somebody blew the whistle. They have no choice now, they have to act or it will just snowball, with hysterical reporters roaring that Siemens isn’t going to do anything when are they going to do something??

      Siemens is, of course, the builder of the Velaro high-speed train used in Russia, where it is called the Sapsan, or Peregrine Falcon. Russia bought 240 trains, 1,200 cars, and – most importantly – awarded Siemens a 40-year contract for preventive and all other maintenance. I doubt very much if they will jeopardize that over a couple of gas turbines. But the yapping press must be appeased.

      • kirill says:

        Siemens has no legal case. Just like no car manufacturer controls what you do with your car (e.g. who you sell it to), Siemens has no control over its turbines in the aftermarket.

    • kirill says:

      https://ria.ru/economy/20170710/1498213204.html

      “Technopromexport bought four unfinished turbine assemblies on the secondary market and had them rebuilt and modernized.”

      Does not sound like these are brand new, fully assembled systems. BTW, Siemens has zero control over its products after they are sold. Perhaps if Russian law recognized some contract term that resale or rebuilding was forbidden then Siemens would have a case. Siemens would have no case in Russia based on contract laws in other jurisdictions and has to lump whatever Russian law dishes out. You can see similar limitations on warranties for products in North America: different states and provinces control warranties differently. Also, I have never heard of contract terms for any non-military product that impose such draconian limitations. Russia ***bought*** these aftermarket turbines and not leased them from Siemens.

      • marknesop says:

        That sounds like an end-user agreement. Under such an agreement, the purchaser must notify the seller prior to reselling the item to any third party. That usually happens with defense-related equipment or proprietary technology which the vendor fears will be reverse-engineered. As far as I know there is no reason to believe such an agreement was in force, and if it were the entity in trouble would not be Russia, but the country which sold them to Russia. In that case it was very likely to have been Germany itself.

    • Lyttenburgh says:

      “…Siemens added that it would file lawsuits to halt any further deliveries to Crimea and to return already-dispatched equipment to its original destination.”

      • yalensis says:

        My continuation of the story based on the latest. Rostech claims that the turbines were assembled in St. Petersburg and issued a “Russian Certificate” which makes them Russian.
        It would seem like Sielens doesn’t have a case; nonetheless one could really use Alex Mercouris on tap to help explain the legal niceties.

  16. Warren says:

    Published on 10 Jul 2017
    Richard Seymour looks at the current state of Spain’s highest selling newspaper, El Pais, which is closely aligned with the centre-left Spanish Socialist Workers Party (PSOE). For more than forty years, the paper has been a central part of the Spanish political establishment and its current crisis is related to the crisis of the political elites.

  17. Warren says:

    Published on 10 Jul 2017
    Abby Martin talks to Venezuelans on the streets of Caracas and investigates the main claim that there’s no free press, and that thereis no food in the supermarkets.

    Using hidden cameras, she takes you through local grocery stores and the underground black market currency exchange, the main source of inflation in the country.

    Abby sits down with economist Pasqualina Curzio to learn more about the nature of the black market and chronic shortages of goods. Knowing that world leaders are calling for foreign intervention, Abby finds out if locals agree.

  18. Warren says:

    Published on 10 Jul 2017
    James Carden, contributing writer at The Nation and executive editor for the American Committee for East-West Accord, analyzes the many areas threatening US-Russia relations, including Ukraine, Syria, and the ongoing Russiagate fixation within the US political and media elite

  19. Lyttenburgh says:

    Hey-hey-hey! Duper hero of the kvetching masses aka PMS-Man strikes again!

    So… Tolya is lukring here, confirmed. Good-good! BTW, his blogroll used to include “Kremlin Stooge”, but earlier this year he conducted a “purge”, to make his links more, ah, racially pure. Guess before that he did not consider KS to be, and I quote, an “obscure Russia blog

    I’m not really sure whether Tolya is in the place to commit himself to such phallometry match to begin with. Everything points against him.

    P.S. kovane is back. It’s… bad.

    • yalensis says:

      kovane is/was a bit of a Stalinist. He and I used to be internet “friends” in the past, though.
      I am capable of beings friends with Stalinists and even Maoists, but not with ALT-Righties.

      Is kind of creepy if kovane hooked up with Karlin, though, what would induce him to that, I wonder? Stalinists are on the other side of the class line from Black Hundreds. And as far as I know, kovane is no racist. And I stand by my statement that Karlin is attempting to “missionary” an alien racist ideology onto Russian soil.

      Using ALT-RIGHTie lingo like “SJW” would seem to indicate that kovane is with them now.
      Oh well, on the bright side, at least he didn’t call me a cuck!

  20. et Al says:

    Antiwar.com: US Looks to Dramatically Escalate Involvement in Libya

    US Looks to Dramatically Escalate Involvement in Libya

    Permanent US Military Presence Considered

    US officials familiar with the situation say that the Trump Administration is likely to announce a dramatic “ramping up” of US involvement in Libya, appointing a new US ambassador, and setting up a permanent US military presence in the nation.

    While the military operation appears primarily aimed at supporting the “unity government” in Tripoli, officials suggest it might also see some US troops deployed to war-torn Benghazi, currently under the control of a rival faction, with an eye toward eventually uniting the country under unity government rule….
    ####

    Bait and switch. As the US makes a fighting retreat from Syria, it helps to divert this loss of face by ramping up its ‘help’ in Libya where the Washington Post, New York Times et al (not me) can Rah! Rah! Rah! until the cows come home.

    You would have thought with events as they are in Syria that the US would take the opportunity to take a break and maybe gently step down from its widespread middle east involvement, i.e. give everyone a breather, but the Borg will not be deterred!

    Any bets that the next stage in Libya will be for US direct support for the ‘recognized’ government of Libya against the elected of Libya while ISIS/ISIL/IS/DAESH/Whatever have a jolly good time? US involvement with boot on ground is catnip for these terrorists. It’s not that the US can’t learn from its mistakes, it doesn’t want to.

  21. et Al says:

    Neuters via Antiwar.com: Turkey warns Greek Cypriots, oil companies against offshore energy grab
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-cyprus-conflict-turkey-idUSKBN19V0WL

    ...Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim, speaking at an energy conference in Istanbul, called on Greek Cypriots to refrain from taking “one-sided measures” after talks failed….

    …Erdogan, speaking later at the same conference, went further, with a not-very-veiled threat to oil companies who may be tempted to participate in the Greek Cypriots’ plans.

    “It is impossible to appreciate that some energy companies are acting with, and becoming part of some irresponsible measures taken by, Greek Cypriots,” Erdogan said. “I want to remind them that they could lose a friend like Turkey.” …
    ####

    More at the link.

  22. moscowexile says:

    Remember this that I posted yesterday on the previous page?

    В Киеве заявили, что не могут доказать наличие военных из России в Донбассе

    In Kiev it has been stated that the existence of troops from Russia in the Donbass cannot be proven
    10.07.2017 | 16:25

    Notice the date?

    Now check this out:

    В Украине задержали полковника РФ – “друга Гиви и Мотороллы”
    Воскресенье, 9 июля 2017, 18:59

    An RF Colonel has been arrested in the Ukraine – “a friend of Givi and Motorola”
    Sunday, 9 July, 2017, 18:59

    The State Border Service has detained Colonel Valery Gratov, whom Russian special services planned to make “Deputy Minister of State Security of the Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic [PMR].”

    This was reported on July 9 by Oleg Slobodyan, aide to the head of the SBS,

    According to him, the detention took place in early June.

    “On exiting the Ukraine, a Ukrainian citizen, Valery Georgievich Voitenko, born in 1954, presented his Ukraine passport at passport control and provided a telegram from the PMR about his mother’s grave state of health and became confused about his passport data. For a detailed questioning of the citizen, officers from operational units of the Ukraine Border Guard Service came to the check point”, Slobodyan said.

    Amongst his personal belongings, the man had a mobile phone with photos from separatist rallies, money and bus tickets.

    “They found an internal pocket in the jacket, in which there was a sheet of paper with installation data and telephone numbers of leading figures of the PMR and people from the Russian Federation, the Order of the Red Star, a smartphone and a flash-card.” They found photographs of the detainee with the terrorists “Motorola, Givi “, (Alexander) Zakharchenko, video of the shelling of Ukrainian territory, “DNR” and “LNR” propaganda materials” photos from the combat operations near Debaltsevo, Donetsk airport, Gorlovka, the Snyezhny area and Ilovaysk”, Slobodyan said.

    Official documentation signed by the detainee, methodological materials on conducting reconnaissance and sabotage measures, etc., were also found.

    “It was possible to establish the real identity of the detainee: he was Colonel RF Valery Gratov , born in 1952, whom Russian special services had planned to make ‘Deputy Minister of State Security of the PMR’. The detainee was transferred to the SBU”, the report said.

    As noted by the military journalist Andrei Tsaplienko, the detained colonel of the Russian Federation is the “former head of the personal guard of the president of the unrecognized Transnistria, Igor Smirnov, an acting instructor of the Donbas fighters and a close friend of Givi and Motorola”.

    “Counterintelligence agents had known for a long time that a certain “Sanych”, known in Moscow as Colonel of the Airborne Forces, Valery Gratov, was hiding behind the name of “Valery Voitenko”. “Ukrainian counterintelligence received information about the intention of the FSB of the Russian Federation to appoint its own deputy as the ‘Transdniestria Minister of State Security’, the chief terms of employment of whom had to be that he was whose chief qualification had to be that he was “a professional Russian military man with experience of fighting in the Donbas on the side of the militants.And such a man they quickly found”, said Tsaplienko.
    According to him, Gratov had been in the Donbass since 2014, officially heading the Union of the Donbass Airborne Troops.

    “From August 29, 2014, Valery A. Gratov was in the zone of military operations in the Luhansk People’s Republic and the Donetsk People’s Republic to date, and in particular was noted for his performance in combat missions and particpation in the following hostilities: Lugansk, Alchevsk, Gorlovka, Makevka, Donetsk, Snyezhnoe, Ilovaysk, Yenakiyevo, Uglegorsk and Debaltsevo”, said Tsaplienko, quoting what was quoted in a letter to the State Duma on behalf of the commander of one of the illegal armed formations.

    And on and on and on.

    And they said he was a Russian army paratroop colonel.

    And then yesterday, July 10, we have this from KP

    [Warning: Kяemlin кontяolled!!!!:

    >a href=”http://www.kp.ru/daily/26699.5/3727345/”>Киевские власти поспешили заявить, что поймали «настоящего российского полковника» с «диверсионным заданием»
    Им оказался десантник из Приднестровья, который возвращался из Донбасса домой

    Kiev authorities quick to say they caught “a real Russian Colonel” on a “sabotage mission”
    He was a paratrooper from Transnistria, who was returning from Donbass home

    The information war in Ukraine is turning into a Makhnovist Huliaipole [Huliaipole: Ukrainian Anarchist dingbat Nestor Makhno’s crazy republic’s capital and his birthplace — ME] After all, the voices of the heads of ministries and departments.are all ready to utter without any scruples their fake stories.

    Here is another “information bomb”: Ukrainian border guards have heroically detained the head of the Union of Airborne Troops of Transnistria, Valery Gratov, who had been travelling from the Donbass to his home. He moved from Donbass to his home. And in his mobile they found pictures of the dead commanders Motorola and Givi.

    And so what did they think this traveller was?

    “In the Ukraine, in June, there has been apprehended another member of the Russian military, who was going to the Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic with propaganda materials from the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics!” said in Facebook Oleg Slobodyan, an official representative of a Ukrainian state service.

    But why is official Kiev so silent about this month’s “sensation”?

    To begin with, they said that the “Russian Colonel” had concocted a fake Ukrainian passport in the name of Voitenko so that it look as though he was a saboteur. Then they made up a fairy tale about some propagandist material that he had to bring into the Ukraine and at great risk to his life.

    They did not release the “bomb” until the [Hamburg] summit, but then suddenly it turned out that nobody had been writing about the “Colonel” for a long time ….

    It turns out that Gratov, who likes to be photographed in military uniform, is well known to the powers that be in Moldova: he loves wearing a colonel’s parade uniform, though there is no evidence as regards his graduating from a military academy or for any long service resulting in the “brass” that he wears, although this has not deterred Gratov from participating in various patriotic events: the “Colonel” has always been where the action is — including the Donbass.


    Russian army “colonel” Gratov in full monty

    In September 2015, Gratov was detained by Moldovan border guards at the airport in Chișinău. Their attention was attracted to him by patriotic brochures, which Russian citizens (in the PMR there are very many) were trying to bring into into Transnistria. Gratov told them then that he had served with emergency assault troops and then, following army service, he had been chief of the security service of the president of the Transnistrian Republic. The border guards did not check this information, having sent Gratov out of Chișinăuby return flight.

    This time, according to Ukrainian border guards, Gratov presented a telegram from the government of Transnistria about his mother’s grave condition. And they also found an amazing set of “saboteur” tools …

    COMMENT FROM A SPECIALIST

    Former Prime Minister of the Donetsk People’s Republic, leader of the Union of Donbass Volunteers, Alexander Boroday:

    I long ago heard stories about Valery Gratov. One thing I can confidently say: he is not a Russian army colonel. Around military events there is often a mass of strange people who are not always adequate. As far as I was informed, a certain Valery Gratov served as a sergeant in the Soviet Army. This made such an impression on him that he “promoted” himself to the rank of colonel. He even began to give out awards and honours. Ukrainian border guards detained this adventurer who was carrying faked documents. And, as usual, they are trying to inflate this matter into yet another scandal by making out that he is a full colonel in the Russian army.

    All Kremlin lies!!!!!

  23. Lyttenburgh says:

    Anatoly Karlin is compulsive liar.

    Either this, or he is imbecile. Here you go – “two chairs dilemma” strikes again. Capitalizing on the fact that most of his audience on UNZ.com are Westerners with no knowledge of Russia, and due to the series of purges to shut all dissenting voices against him, Karlin can spout any bullshit he wants virtually without fear, that someone will call his bluff. Hmmm… Does it remind you of something – or of someone?

    In his eulogy to “unjustly” blocked “Sputnik & Pogrom” he commits an enormous number of mistakes, omissions and distortions. One has to wonder – was there anywhere a “minus” sign before his legendary IQ score number that he is so proud about? Could have explained a lot.

    Frankly, I don’t have to go out of my way here pointing out lies – just read the comments below it by Mao Cheng Ji (see his critique of Karlin’s “computation” method) and this comment by user Boris N (whiny liberast with nationalist tendencies he is, but he is “insider”, i.e. Russian). No, I will go after ballsy (and totally false) claims overlooked by them and others.

    Quote:

    “As a reminder, SiP isn’t some fringe Neo-Nazi blog bedecked in swastikas and dug up from the bowels of the Internet. It is a glossy magazine with long, high-quality articles about Russian history that now garners 1.5 million monthly visits, despite many of its articles being paywalled. It has been remarkably successful at penetrating its way into the Russian elites: Alexander Voloshin, Igor Strelkov, and Ksenia Sobchak (!) are known to be readers.”

    Take your time, laugh out loud – we’re in no hurry! Oh, and btw – if Karlin is name-dropping members of “elite” (about it – later), why he says nothing about Alexey Navalny being one of the oldest and most faithful (to the level of Ho Yay between him and Porsvirnin) readers of S&P? What – this will besmirch his favorite rag?

    As for calling persons namedropped an “elite” – Karlin must be either idiotic or under influence. According to him media personalities who are/were memetic are now “national elite”? Ksenia Sobchak, who was advertised (by herself) as “Russian Paris Hilton”, and who managed to become more ridiculously despised without turning into a slut? Strelkov, who failed to die gloriously like Kornilov, and who, subsequently, have to live on like any other has-been emigrant from the White Movement? Bearded “grey cardinal of the Kremlin” Voloshin, who had been exiled from the court since the second term of Putin’s rule? They are “elite”?

    “It is highly critical of the Putin regime for what they see as its corruption, privileging of ethnic minorities, open borders with Central Asia, laxness in Ukraine, and the stiffling climate of political authoritarianism and social conservatism.”

    It’s A. Karlin’s way of New-Speak to say, that S&P supports Navalny, ethnic strife, #путинвведивойска meme and LGBT rights. Yes, there are some serious concerns about Prosvirnin’s sexual orientation, not helped in the slightest by his earlier photos and fafics.

    “One can agree or disagree with these assertions to varying extents, but one cannot credibly accuse it of being an agent for Western (or Islamist) interests; in 2014, they actively supported Crimea’s incorporation into Russia and the Donbass resistance,”

    At the same time Prosvirnin was the guest of honor on Ukrainian media resources right after and during the so-called EuroMaida, where he handshaked and approved of the activities. Self contradiction? That’s Prosvirnin’s second name. But he‘s a person without convictions, so no surprise here.

    “This might imply that Navalny will be allowed to run after all (even though SiP has in truth been opposed to Navalny as much as Putin).”

    Once again – Karlin is lying. But that’s not new in the slightest.

    “First, there is a rich irony in that just a few weeks ago, Egor Prosvirnin was disinvited from the Saint-Petersburg “Geek Picnic” tech conference thanks to the no-platforming efforts of SJWs of “multinational nationality””

    And again – Karlin is lying. He was not “disnvited” from Geek Picnic in Saint Pete. He participated there by readying a lecture. He was only disinvited from the second day of the fest. So, Karlin’s attempt to see some ZOG conspiracy here is, predictably, disingenuous. Again – by now no one should be surprised by his almost compulsory lying. This, and Karlin’s reliance on liberast media such as Meduza nad Do///D’ TV.

    S&P site is hosted in the US of A – not Russia. As you probably already know, the site is rabidly anti-Soviet, pro Russian nationalist and mostly in opposition to the government of Russian Federation. Site frequently hosted publications and open calls to change the existing constitutional structure of This Country via coups and uprisings, for Russia to start waging wars of aggression and calls for ethnic supremacy of Russians above all other people of the Federation. Gee, I wonder – why would the Office of Attorney General of RF take some action against them! [/sarcasm] And that’s not counting fakes, gossip, lies and “fake news”, which he, from time to time, do delete, lest his rag will lose all credibility

    “Highly successful” “talented writer” Egor Prosvirnin at the dawn of his career on June 22 of 2012 actively trolled and dissed GPW veterans, by running an article (written by pig-fuhrer himself) which called the Nazi invasion of 1941 a “day of Retribution” and also “a day, when the White Europe came back to Russia”. After quite predictable negative reaction of, basically, anyone sans liberasts, Prosvirnin called it “a joke”. I wonder – do Tolya Karlin share his Prosvirnin’s sempai sense of humor? Or is it so bad as I expect, i.e. the autists completely lacking empathy and sense of humor?

    Now, allow me to quote the proud White Overlord himself:

    “And in general, of course, what we do in the “Satellite and Pogrom” – this is pure magic. Practical shamanism. Witchcraft. You are standing in front of the thick fog of the sociosphere, which is swirling with monsters, permeated with electrical discharges, and you try to guess the right words of the desired and one-time only working spell, to draw the right pentagram. If you are successful a cloudy fog explodes with dark energy fireworks, giving rise to thousands of reposts, hundreds of new subscribers, monstrous reach [written in English in original – Lyt], purchases, money transfers and, most importantly, an almost rock-sense of power, “I grabbed this reality by the throat, I hit, I broke through the artery and drink the sparkling blood of the noosphere.” Should you say a meaningless spell – and nothing, the fog remains suction-indifferent. You picked up the wrong words and instead of flows of power from non-existence, demons materialize, with threats of violence, murders, curses, denunciations, bursting into life with a wave of hatred and insanity.

    Someday with these summons of essences from the social ether, I will end badly by either calling the creature of the highest level, which will actually kill, cripple or jail me, or I will summon one of the heavenly supreme commanders, after which all this practical magic will pass to the next level. For the time being I continue to whisper forbidden words into the swirling socio-infinity, watching flashes in response”

    Very honest. Very descriptive. Despite what Tolya Karlin imagine in his imbecilic dream – Egor P. is just armchair agent provocateur, troll and Hikky with allergy to real people and physical labour. He’s a attention whore, who desires bigger numbers.

    Prosvirnin did conjure Cthulhu in the end. Why is he acting so surprised now? He “just failed to fit into the market” (c)

    • marknesop says:

      Anatoly has been right on a couple of issues in which nearly everyone else – including me – was wrong; for one, the surprisingly high percentage of the vote Navalny received in his mayoral campaign for Moscow Mayor. Many blamed this afterward on Sobyanin’s failure to conduct anything resembling a campaign, instead simply presuming he would win, which he did because Navalny is a self-absorbed tool, and enough Russians can always see that. But still; most predictions – with the sole exception, as I best recall, of Anatoly’s – of Navalny’s percentage had him at about half of what he did get. A good lesson on many counts, not least that if you’re up for election, you still have to go to the bother of spelling out what you intend to do and how you intend to do it even supposing you look like a shoo-in.

      Another was the prediction that Serdyukov would escape prosecution, and I be go to hell if he has not, coming out of a barrel of shit smelling like a rose. I’m still bitter about that. Oh, not about Anatoly’s being right, which he demonstrably was – more about Serdyukov escaping the axe. It strikes a very jarring note in the climate of western caterwauling about favouritism and krysha.

      • Lyttenburgh says:

        Whatever predictions Karlin did was way back in time before I became active here (again). Now he came to shit. Now he demonstrates more wishful thinking than actual analysis, Now he became just propacondom for his racial theories.

        • yalensis says:

          Karlin made those predictions when he was still a college student, studying at some American University in California (sorry, I don’t know which one, nor do I know if he ever actually graduated). I think his college professors trained him well, so using the math he had been taught he was able, once in a while, to make some valid sociological predictions as per, e.g., voting patterns.

          But that’s all in the past. Karlin jumped the shark when he became a Eugenics Warrior with a mission. I think the root of his problems was that he didn’t want to settle down and just get a job, as a professor, or analyst, or whatever. Instead, he decided to go into politics as a career.

    • yalensis says:

      Mao Cheng Ji does a very good job of commenting on that post.
      I also want to call out a very good comment by Boris N. (July 9, 8:16 PM). Boris, I think, gets to the nub of the matter when he points out how Prosvirnin attempted to use his blog as a source of income. When people attempt to schnor money for their blogposts, as if they were professional journalists (which they’re not), then I think this often raises a question mark.
      I recall that Karlin himself, back in his pre-Unz blogging days, attempted to solicit money from his readers, and I also thought at the time that this was kind of sleazy.

      Quoting from Boris: “In short: SiP is but a personal business project of P[rosvirnin]., a way of making money. Or in other words the main driven force of it: “I do not want to work for a boss any more! I want my own journal with blackjack and hookers!”

      I recall that Karlin once, in one of his comments on KS, said something similar, that he had “big plans” for his life and had no intention of being “office plankton”. (Counterposing himself to yours truly, that’s me, yalensis, I actually am office plankton, in that I earn my bacon by working in an office!)

      In conclusion: When evaluating a politician, or would-be politician, ALWAYS FOLLOW THE MONEY!

  24. moscowexile says:

    Yes!!!

    Make my day!

    ФСИН просит отправить Навального в колонию

    FSIN [Federal Penitentiary Service — Федеральная служба исполнения наказаний] asks that Navalny be sent to a colony [prison camp]

    MOSCOW, July 11 (Itar-Tass) – RIA Novosti. The FSIN has asked that Aleksei Navalny’s suspended sentenced be replaced with a custodial one, RIA Novosti has been informed by the press secretary of the Simonovsky Court of Moscow, Viktor Vasiliev.

    “The Simonovsky court has received a statement concerning the cancellation of Navalny’s conditional sentence and his being sent instead to a correctional colony, which statement has been registered, but the procedural decision on it — about its acceptance or refusal of acceptance for consideration — has not yet been made”, the source said.

    Later it became known that the FSIN has asked to tighten the punishment in the case of the theft of more than 26 million rubles from the company “Yves Rocher”.

    In December 2014, Aleksey Navalny was conditionally sentenced to three and a half years’ imprisonment as a result of this case. His brother Oleg Navalny received a custodial sentence and is serving it in a colony.

    In addition, in February 2017, the Kirov Regional Court upheld a five-year suspended sentence given to Navalny in the case of the embezzlement of more than 16 million rubles by the company Kirovles. A review of the case was related to a decision by the Strasbourg Court, which found violations of the defendant’s rights.

    A conditional sentence can be replaced by a custodial one if the convict violates administrative law. From the beginning of the year, Aleksey Navalny has repeatedly been detained for violating the rules of organizing rallies. In June, a court gave him 25 days custodial arrest, which he served in a special detention centre.

    Earlier the FSIN repeatedly asked that Navalny be sent to a colony, but each time this request was refused. The last time the court rejected such a motion was in September 2016.


    Well WTF!

    I tell you, folk have got really pissed off with Navalny and his showboating:

    Just my opinion, mind, insignificant Englishman that I am.

    Send the bastard down!

    • moscowexile says:

      And when he has been sent down, send all the kreakl shits down who come out rioting because of their hero’s “martyrdom”.

      The vast majority of Russians couldn’t give a flying fuck for Navalny’s pampered priviliged acolytes.

    • Lyttenburgh says:

      No-no-no! Navalny decided to stage an epic rap battle a public debates with Igor Strelkov:

      The logic behind this as expressed by Navalny and his minions? Well, because Strelkov once years ago won some on-line popularity poll, where he was compared to Putin, the victory over Strelkov will mean that Navalny is more popular than Putin! Hell, yeah!

      Logic? What logic?! Navalny’s hamsters need no stinking logic!

      Meanwhile the radical wing of the so-called Russian so-called opposition (i,e, alcoholic Sasha Sotnik and Ukrainian resident peadophile Rustem Adogamov) decided, that this is totally unhandshakable and legetimizes “terrorist” Strelkov.

      In short – grab popcorn. It should be fun!

      • moscowexile says:

        But Navalny is a total waste of space when it comes to debating because he knows fuck all about anything apart from corruption, and he’s only knowledgeable about that because he more than a little dabbles in it himself:

        • moscowexile says:

          Washington pays him for being “Putin’s leading critic”.

          • moscowexile says:

            «Удар под дых от Собчак»: Навальный опозорился в эфире «Дождя»

            Sobchak knocks the wind out of him: Navalny shamed live on air at Dozhd TV

            During an interview with Ksenia Sobchak, the self-proclaimed candidate for the presidency of Russia, Aleksei Navalny, revealed that he is not versed in the intricacies of the Russian Federation budget policy.

            Media expert Anatoly Shariy criticized the self-proclaimed presidential candidate Aleksei Navalny following his live on air interview with Ksenia Sobchak on the TV channel Dozhd.

            Sobchak began her interview with the politician by asking how Navalny had managed to receive an international passport [reference to his getting said passport to travel to Barcelona for eye treatment there, notwithstanding the fact that he is serving a suspended sentence — ME]. Then Ksenia touched upon the “nonsense” that is written about the “candidate” in social networks, and then later she discussed with Aleksei the social side of his presidential programme.

            “Aleksei Navalny’s words sprang forth as do frogs from a swamp and Ksenia immediately grabbed each one and began to strangle them”, said Shariy.

            The media expert paid special attention to Ksenia Sobchak’s question about Russian health care spending:

            “As for Navalny’s presidential programme, Sobchak’s question about how much Russia spends as a percentage of its consolidated GDP on health knocked the wind out of him: he could not answer this question, although he stated in his programme that the cost of health care should be increased twofold, and not three, for example, or four. It would seem that the question concerns a concrete programmatic situation. So give us a clear figure. But alas, no.”

            “At the same time” continues Anatoly, “Aleksei never confesses that he is not right or that there is something that he does not know. He always worms his way out of answering. Navalny is used to living surrounded by his minions, who will always nod their heads and look up at him as though he were the Lord of the Flies, anyway”.

  25. et Al says:

    Vinyard the Saker: How Russia should deal with the “Pilban Syndrome” (PBS)
    http://thesaker.is/how-russia-should-deal-with-the-pilban-syndrome-pbs/

    A reader, SunriseState, has recently posted the following question in the comments section: “what would you say is the most optimal Russian strategy vs Poland?“. When I read it I thought “now that is an interesting question indeed!”. Today I will try to answer it, going step by step.

    First, a diagnosis.

    There is a Polish syndrome. We can ascribe all sorts of causes for it, some will describe the Poles look as heroic victims, others as greedy hyenas, but for our purposes we don’t even need to dwell into history to list a series of symptoms which, when taken together, we could call the “Polish Syndrome”…
    ####

    Plenty more at the link.

    I think this is a perfectly reasonable strategy. Let them to hang themselves with their own rope. It doesn’t mean tip-toeing around them either.

  26. Northern Star says:

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/11/politics/trump-jr-russia-lawyer-emails/index.html

    So the concern is with the proffer of the info about Killary….not about Killary’s corrupt or questionable conduct being exposed!!

    “An email from publicist Rob Goldstone offered Trump Jr. a meeting with a “Russian government attorney” after offering “some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia.”

  27. marknesop says:

    Off-topic a bit, but here’s a very interesting comment – I would even say a bit of a breakthrough – on the WADA front; I want to include it because the comment was posted to another forum which passed some time ago, and many might miss it otherwise.

    WADA is taken to the woodshed for its junk science, and those who supported Sharapova through her meldonium nightmare are completely vindicated as WADA admits it did no testing at all to determine prevalence in the body or performance enhancement, instead just recycling the results of a partisan ‘study’, while the author points out that the political opportunity to kick Russia’s legs out from under it probably had a lot to do with it.

    What did I say just yesterday? Western trope after western trope is crumbling. The center cannot hold any longer, and the Big Narrative is unraveling at an ever-faster pace. Watch out: this is a dangerous time. What do liars usually do when their lies are exposed?

    • et Al says:

      Any chance of Shaparova suing WADA, for example for ‘loss of earnings’? I’d love to see them buried and who comes out of the shadows to help them. Everyone exposed. Nail the f/kers to the wall.

      • marknesop says:

        I devoutly hope so. I would like to see them completely discredited and forced to close up shop. Obviously professional and competitive sport needs to be policed for drug cheats and other underhanded tricks to win by means other than athletic ability, but WADA has become completely politicized and bends over for foreign policy objectives of the United States. It also employs partisans who look the other way at accusations that some nations cheated. WADA should be razed to its foundations, and then McLaren thrown on its funeral pyre.

  28. et Al says:

    FM! An Air Canada A320 came close to landing on SFO taxi way where four aircraft were waiting to take off. That’s buttock clenchingly frightening!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40571913

    • marknesop says:

      I would inject a note of caution here; from what the article states, it sounds as if the ATC is at least partly and perhaps wholly to blame.

      Meanwhile, an audio recording has emerged of what are said to be last Friday’s communications between air traffic controllers and pilots at San Francisco’s airport.

      In it, a male voice believed to be that of the Air Canada pilot is heard saying that there are lights on the runway.

      One of the air traffic controllers replies that there are no other planes there.

      Another – unidentified – voice is then heard saying: “Where’s this guy going? He’s on the taxiway.”

      The air traffic controller then apparently realises the danger of the Air Canada plane crashing into the four aircraft on the ground, and orders the pilot to pull up and make another approach.

      A pilot from one of the planes on the ground is then heard saying: “United One, Air Canada flew directly over us.”

      Another example, if one were needed, as to why ATC records are critical to every incident investigation involving civil aviation, and not ‘of no significance’. The pilot of the aircraft appears to lodge an objection to his runway assignment, and is told there are no other planes on the runway.

      Either way, somebody is going to be jobless before the week is out.

      One more, a niggling complaint – was it really necessary for the BBC to include a map showing where Toronto is in relation to San Francisco? I mean, really? It has the air of a graphic included because it’s formulaic, and not because it contributes in any meaningful way to situational understanding. If you’re reading in the Congo, and have no idea where either city is, the map is utterly meaningless. If you know where both are, the map is utterly meaningless. It’s sole purpose appears to be to contribute to global stupidity.

      • Cortes says:

        On the map: isn’t it just a “filler”, Mark? A bit like the totally superfluous links to the on-the-spot reporters listed in Private Eye’s “Going Live” feature:

        – “Let’s go back to Cindy/Sandy/Alex in Moose Jaw/Kookaburra/Aleppo for an update on the ice storm/bushfires/suicide truck bombing. What’s the latest there?”

        – “As you can see behind me, they’re still…”

        • marknesop says:

          Kind of, I guess. It just seems so stupidly superfluous – a map labeled “Canada” and “USA” which features only the cities of Toronto and San Francisco. Come on. What did where the plane came from or how far it flew have to do with this mishap?

  29. Matt says:

    Chaika’s back in action, baby:

    • marknesop says:

      What is Ms. Veselnitskaya’s position in the Russian government, do you happen to know? Just curious.

      • Matt says:

        Veselnitskaya isn’t the problem:

        ————

        “In the June 3 email, Mr. Goldstone told Donald J. Trump Jr. that he was writing on behalf of a mutual friend, one of Russia’s biggest pop music stars, Emin Agalarov. Emin, who professionally uses his first name only, is the son of Aras Agalarov, a real estate tycoon sometimes called the “Donald Trump of Russia.”

        The elder Agalarov boasts close ties to President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia: His company has won several large state building contracts, and Mr. Putin awarded him the Order of Honor of the Russian Federation.

        “Emin just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting,” Mr. Goldstone wrote in the email. “The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.”

        He added, “What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?”

        There is no such title as crown prosecutor in Russia — the Crown Prosecution Service is a British term — but the equivalent in Russia is the prosecutor general of Russia.

        That office is held by Yury Yakovlevich Chaika, a Putin appointee who is known to be close to Ms. Veselnitskaya.”

        —————————-

        The issue is that multiple lies have been told by those involved.

        • marknesop says:

          The issue is that multiple lies have been told by those involved.

          If you’ll forgive me, that’s just a little general. Could you be more specific? What exactly is known and proven to be a lie?

          That office is held by Yury Yakovlevich Chaika, a Putin appointee who is known to be close to Ms. Veselnitskaya.

          Known by whom? How is he known to be ‘close’ to Ms. Veselnitskaya? Does that mean they are both in the legal profession? If so, does it mean everyone in Russia who is in the legal profession is close to Chaika? According to WaPo, Veselnitskaya ‘has reported links to the Kremlin’. Reported by whom? The Washington Post is a fucking newspaper, for Christ’s sake – why do I have to do all the work? Is it too much to ask to have these ‘links’ spelled out, instead of coy allusions attributed to unnamed sources?

          The elder Agalarov boasts close ties to President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia: His company has won several large state building contracts, and Mr. Putin awarded him the Order of Honor of the Russian Federation.

          His ‘close ties’ consist of his company having been awarded state contracts, and his having received the Order of Honour of the Russian Federation? German mega-firm Siemens has a 40-year state contract for railways systems procurement and maintenance – is Siemens in Putin’s pocket? Could Siemens be accurately described as having ‘close ties’ to Putin? Juan Antonio Saramanch, the longest-serving president of the IOC, is a recipient of the Russian Federation Order of Honour. So is Peace Activist and President of the European Jewish Congress Moshe Kantor – do they have ‘close ties’ to Putin? I’m afraid I’d have to see some more detailed evidence of Agalorov’s inherent wickedness before passing judgment on his alleged ‘Kremlin ties’.

          Come on, Matt – you know these people are lying. And I can just tell you’ve got something more than ‘unnamed officials told me’, or ’17 American Intelligence agencies’ believe it’s true. So, give. Who is proven to have lied, and how, and where is the Kremlin connection? Hillary and her footsoldiers are adamant that Putin put Trump in the White House. You are echoing their nonsense, so you must, ipso facto, believe that as well. So spell it out, and stop your teasing.

          • Matt says:

            I don’t think the Trump campaign colluded with Russia, but the people involved in this meeting lied:

            Veselnitskaya claims it was actually Trump Jr. who contacted her, while Jr claims the opposite.

            Mr. Goldstone claims Veselnitskaya contacted Emin directly, and that Emin had asked him to reach out to the Trumps as a favor to her.

            Veselnitskaya claims “nothing at all about the presidential campaign” had been discussed at the Trump Tower meeting.

            Mr. Goldstone claims he didn’t know whether the Russian government had any role in organizing the meeting, but his email to Trump Jr. shows otherwise:

            “Don Hope all is well Emin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and The Russian government attorney who is flying over from Moscow for this Thursday. I believe you are aware of this meeting — and so wondered if 3pm or later on Thursday works for you?”

            Like I said, somebody’s lying here. Either Trump Jr., Veselnitskaya, or Goldstone.

            • yalensis says:

              And once again, like I pointed out before, Matt’s modus operandi is to SEEM to be supporting a theory or point of view, only to weasel out at the last minute:
              “I don’t think the Trump campaign colluded with Russia, but …”

              But what?
              What if Trump DID collude with Russia? Support your point of view!

    • Lyttenburgh says:

      Userperson “Matt”! Just one question p why do you constantly changing your e-mail adresses to access comment section here?

      • Matt says:

        I just type random stuff in. But, I guess I could just use one of my emails. This comment is written using one of my own emails.

        • Lyttenburgh says:

          “I just type random stuff in. But, I guess I could just use one of my emails. This comment is written using one of my own emails.”

          Good! Excellent, in fact! Let us all remember, that you clam to own multiple e-mail accounts. May I ask you – why do you need at least 4 of them?

          • Matt says:

            Well, duh. I have hotmail, gmail, yahoo, etc. Most people have multiple emails. As to why, well, because I can. Anything wrong with that?

            Investigator Lyttenburgh is a tough one.

            • Lyttenburgh says:

              “Most people have multiple emails.”

              Statistics prove you wrong. Most people DON’T have multiple email accounts. Which makes you “not the most people”. If you were someone important, I might have imagine a reason or two for different e-emails (e.g. – one for home and one for work).

              But you are self-described Redditer. So I ask you – why?

              • Matt says:

                1.8 rounds up to 2.0. Two email accounts count as multiple accounts.

                My first email was hotmail, then to use Android, I had to make a gmail account. Then I have a spam email I use for sites I don’t trust with my primary email. That’s three accounts.

                • Lyttenburgh says:

                  Yeah, only you used 4 so far. 4 is greater than 2 (“rounding up” from 1.8), Which makes it a too many for a normal person.

                  Once again – why? Especially – why would you use “spam email” for this blog?

      • marknesop says:

        I’m just curious – how do you know that? The email address of commenters is never visible. And it’s not something I would reveal in a public forum.

        • Jen says:

          Did you notice just then that the pattern next to Matt’s comment changed and the colour went from green to pink? That’s how you tell if the email address has changed.

          Lyttenburgh asks the question because using several email addresses could be one indication that our pal Matt has come here for the sole purpose of trolling KS and to flood KS with superfluous stuff (such JFK’s assassination and the supposed KGB connections) to derail comment threads.

          Lyt already picked up a change of name from “Matt” to “Mark”. Cortes has thrown a gauntlet to Matt which so far he has failed to pick up. Warren has twice posted a link to an Abby Martin article on Venezuela and Matt has not replied to either post. If Matt really does have family connections to Venezuela that he claims, why hasn’t he commented on these posts from Cortes and Warren? The Abby Martin article should have been a pushover for Matt if it is propaganda.

          • Matt says:

            ” using several email addresses could be one indication that our pal Matt has come here for the sole purpose of trolling KS and to flood KS with superfluous stuff”

            First of all, I tend to not use my real emails when I post. As for “trolling”, my I.P. address should be easily visible to the owner of this website. Tell me Jen, how am I trolling? Provide evidence of my “trolling”. And lastly, nothing I post is “superfluous”. I happened to notice other commentators sharing articles that interest them here and I thought to do the same. All are related to Russia. And the connections between the KGB and JFK’s assassination are not “supposed”. They are quite well established.

            “Lyt already picked up a change of name from “Matt” to “Mark”.”

            Matt ain’t my real name, duh. And I mistakenly typed in “Mark”. These are generic names, easy to get confused. But that’s the only instance of me using multiple names and it was only once – by accident.

            “Cortes has thrown a gauntlet to Matt which so far he has failed to pick up.”

            Didn’t notice his post.

            “Warren has twice posted a link to an Abby Martin article on Venezuela and Matt has not replied to either post.”

            I saw that post but was busy replying to the others and surfing Reddit. It hasn’t even been 3 and a half hours since he posted that. Gimme some time, Grandma.

            • yalensis says:

              Dear Grandpa Matt/Mark:
              I think the main thing people want to know is whether or not you really are Venezuelan, or if you were just making that up.
              Whether or not one is a troll or is not a troll can sometimes be a matter of personal interpretation. But lying about one’s ethnic background is problematic.

            • Lyttenburgh says:

              “As for “trolling”, my I.P. address should be easily visible to the owner of this website. Tell me Jen, how am I trolling? Provide evidence of my “trolling””

              1) “Internet Troll – a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal, on-topic discussion, often for the troll’s amusement.” (Wikipedia)

              2) “Trolling – Being a prick on the internet because you can. Typically unleashing one or more cynical or sarcastic remarks on an innocent by-stander, because it’s the internet and, hey, you can.” (Urban Dictionary).

              You do not engage in the meningful dialog, userperson “Matt”. You came here as snark-baity Redditer, who tries to antagonize as many people as possible. All your links share one underlying theme – they are anti-Russian. You engage in the linguistic terror tactic, as the way to “prove” your points, you regularly “assume” things by making blind jumps of faith, you are imprevious to formal logic – and you are dodgy as hell.

              As for the evidence of your trolling – uh, calling Jen a “grandma”… that’s normal for you?

              • Matt says:

                “You do not engage in the meningful dialog, userperson “Matt”.”

                Your opinion.

                “who tries to antagonize as many people as possible.”

                Baseless accusation. I haven’t posted a single comment “antagonizing” anyone, until investigator Lyttenburgh began investing me for “trolling”.

                “All your links share one underlying theme – they are anti-Russian.”

                Ha, I love this. Stop throwing out the term “anti-Russian” all the time. Posting links to historical archives showing KGB active measures is now “anti-Russian”?

                Your comment only proves my earlier point: the term “anti-Russian” is thrown out to block any criticism of the Russian government or the USSR.

                • Lyttenburgh says:

                  “Your opinion.”

                  and

                  “Baseless accusation. I haven’t posted a single comment “antagonizing” anyone, until investigator Lyttenburgh began investing me for “trolling”.”

                  Not true. People with memory span exceed that of a golden fish (normal people) remember what you have posted on the previous page – or what you were doing during your first raid here.

                  “Ha, I love this. Stop throwing out the term “anti-Russian” all the time. Posting links to historical archives showing KGB active measures is now “anti-Russian”?”

                  1) I did not “thow out the term Anti-Russian all the time”. That statement is a lie. Well, I expected nothing else from you.

                  2) Most of your posting (over 83.75%) considers inane conspiracy theories, cover current event from anti-Russian angle or support people who are Russophobic to the core.

                  “Your comment only proves my earlier point: the term “anti-Russian” is thrown out to block any criticism of the Russian government or the USSR.”

                  Do the term “homophobes” gets used by the members of LGBT+ community to block any criticism of gays and transsexuals? And the term “racist”, is it, in your opinion, being thrown around by the POC to dodge the walid criticism?

                • Matt says:

                  Reply to Lyttenburgh:

                  “Not true. People with memory span exceed that of a golden fish (normal people) remember what you have posted on the previous page – or what you were doing during your first raid here.”

                  Where did I post anything antagonistic towards Pavlo? Nowhere. I carefully parried away his insanely insulting comments and he stopped bothering me. A job well done.

                  “1) I did not “thow out the term Anti-Russian all the time”. That statement is a lie. Well, I expected nothing else from you.”

                  You used that term without valid reason quite a bit, even in the very article above.

                  ” Most of your posting (over 83.75%) considers inane conspiracy theories, cover current event from anti-Russian angle or support people who are Russophobic to the core.”

                  Conspiracy theories? Pointing out historical reality – the KGB’s disinformation about JFK, AIDS, etc. does not mean I am spreading “conspiracy theories”. And again, you use the terms “anti-Russian” and “Russophobic” for no reason.

                  “Do the term “homophobes” gets used by the members of LGBT+ community to block any criticism of gays and transsexuals? And the term “racist”, is it, in your opinion, being thrown around by the POC to dodge the walid criticism?””

                  Sure, those terms are abused too. Entire agree.

                • Lyttenburgh says:

                  “Where did I post anything antagonistic towards Pavlo? Nowhere. “

                  You can antagonize people without attacking them personally – do you know that? Because that’w what you did. You antagonized Pavlo (and me) during your first raid here. Just because you don’t see anything “wrong” here doesn’t mean that you didn’t do that.

                  Also – read other commentaries here. Now tell me with a straight face that you didn’t antagonize people.

                  Oh, and no – you “parried” nothing. And Pavlo is still here, waiting for you to answer his questions in full.

                  “You used that term without valid reason quite a bit, even in the very article above.”

                  What is “valid reason” to use Anti-Russian term according to you?

                  “Conspiracy theories? Pointing out historical reality – the KGB’s disinformation about JFK, AIDS, etc. does not mean I am spreading “conspiracy theories”.”

                  Only you didn’t report “historical reality”. You linked some dodgy unverified “sources” and opinions of propacondoms. So – yes, you are spreading “conspiracy theories”. All the time.

                  “Sure, those terms are abused too. Entire agree.”

                  Yet you support Soros funded BLM and other such initiatives found out to be thoroughly lacking in reality department to support their claims?

                • Matt says:

                  Reply to Luttenburgh:

                  “Because that’w what you did. You antagonized Pavlo (and me) during your first raid here.

                  You know full well that it was Pavlo who began calling me names first. Nice try, making me look like the bad guy here, for merely responding to Pavlo’s immature pedophillia accusations.

                  “Also – read other commentaries here. Now tell me with a straight face that you didn’t antagonize people.”

                  If I have “antagonized” people, it was only as a response to their insults, whether that be Special_sauce, Pavlo, etc. And I’ve never insulted someone first – only after they insult me. This is perfectly normal behaviour.

                  “What is “valid reason” to use Anti-Russian term according to you?”

                  When the country or people of Russia are demonized, not when basic historical realities are pointed out.

                  “Only you didn’t report “historical reality”. You linked some dodgy unverified “sources” and opinions of propacondoms. So – yes, you are spreading “conspiracy theories”. All the time.”

                  Dodgy? What is “dodgy” about the Mitrokhin Archive?

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitrokhin_Archive

                  Everything I say is historical reality: Operation INFEKTION, the KGB’s payments to Mark Lane, etc.

                  “Yet you support Soros funded BLM and other such initiatives found out to be thoroughly lacking in reality department to support their claims?”

                  Blacks are shot like dogs on the street in the U.S. Protesting this is perfectly fine and it’s good that Soros funds BLM.

                  Is this normal?

                • yalensis says:

                  Matt: Soros doesn’t give a shit about African-Americans, and neither do you.
                  Nice try, though.

                • Pavlo Svolochenko says:

                  Hello Dudley.

                  You opened with lazy ethnic slurs that only Ukrainians like yourself use. Worse, you denied being a Ukrainian, although it’s painfully apparent that you are one – as a Ukrainian, that’s an insult I’m obligated to avenge, which in the old days would have meant burning down your village and scalping your family. Now it means bullying you until you spazz out and ragequit.

                  Bullies eventually give up if you ignore them, and for a short while I thought you had grasped this lesson – but now know you’ve gone and mentioned me by name, you’ve put yourself back where you started.

                  Ти повільно навчається, а твій тато це пидор.

              • Matt says:

                “As for the evidence of your trolling – uh, calling Jen a “grandma”… that’s normal for you?”

                Calm ‘yerself, it was a way to indicate she expected me to reply too quickly to another poster’s comment.

                If that’s your best evidence of my “trolling” then it’s pathetic. You’re grasping at straws here, investigator Lyttenburgh.

                You are actually the troll here, posting multiple comments about me being “paranoid”, a “troll”, etc.

                • Matt says:

                  Reply to Brother yalenis:

                  “Matt: Soros doesn’t give a shit about African-Americans, and neither do you.
                  Nice try, though.”

                  That is your opinion, which is based off of nothing. You don’t know me, thus you can not judge whether I give one, two, or even three shits about African-Americans.

                  And Soros funds BLM because he funds progressive entities. BLM, which wants racial justice, satisfies that criterion.

              • Matt says:

                To my new BFF Pavlo:

                Bullying? The only person here who is a bully would be you, with your unjustified ad hominem attacks against me – you remember them, right buddy?

                And for the last time:

                I. Am. Not. A. Ukrainian.

                Please visit your local psychiatrist. You need professional help. I am telling you this because I care about you very much. You falsely assume online commentators are Ukrainians.

                “as a Ukrainian, that’s an insult I’m obligated to avenge,”

                Awwwwwwwww sheeeeeeet, I knew it Pavlo, a Ukrainian really did do something nasty to your mother, resulting in your birth!

                Now it all makes sense. Yep. I heavily suggest therapy.

                • Pavlo Svolochenko says:

                  Was the handle ‘Pavlo Svolochenko’ too subtle a hint, you spectacular (Ukrainian) thickie?

                  Incidentally, that’s the one charge you have positively denied – so we can take it as read that you are also everything else I’ve accused you of being.

                  I’d suggest referring to earlier comments if you’re having trouble remembering what those things were, but you seem to take the most umbrage at being (correctly) identified as a Ukrainian, so other insults on my part feel a little redundant.

                  And yes fellow, I am bullying you, that is what I said I was doing – reading comprehension is not your strong suit, is it?

            • Lyttenburgh says:

              “First of all, I tend to not use my real emails when I post.”

              Above you claimed, and I quote:

              “I just type random stuff in. But, I guess I could just use one of my emails. This comment is written using one of my own emails.”

              So these are your OWN e-mails, but they are not your REAL e-mails. What are they then?

              Also – posting self-contradicting statements is a sign of either a troll or of idiot.

              • Matt says:

                Think slower, investigator Lyttenburgh. First I was not using my own emails, but now I am.

                This is simple stuff.

                • yalensis says:

                  Well, Matt, the pattern that I see is this: Everything you post, you then weasel out of.
                  I wouldn’t have a problem if you just stated: These are my opinions, blah blah blah.
                  Like I said, I don’t care if you’re anti-Russian, pro-Polish, pro-Ukrainian, or whatever.
                  Just say who you are (politically) and what you mean.
                  Every comment of yours seems to start out like evidence in favor of a certain theory, which you subsequently back out of when people try to pin you down.

                  Like MH-17, you are leading up to saying you think the Russians did it, but then you back out: “I didn’t say the Russians did it.”
                  Or Kennedy assassination, according to your links, was obviously the job of the KGB, but then you weasel out again: “I didn’t say the KGB killed Kennedy, I merely pointed out that…” blah blah blah

                  With all your links, you are obviously trying to instill a certain philosophy and point of view, but then in the end you won’t stand by it.
                  To me that’s sort of like trolling, altough it’s difficiult to come up with an exact definition.

                  Either way, you are a slippery eel, Matt!

                • Lyttenburgh says:

                  “First I was not using my own emails, but now I am.

                  This is simple stuff.”

                  – You made you come-back post using #1email

                  – You posted most of of your comments on the previous page using this #2email

                  – SUDDENLY you employed #3email and changed your nick to “Mark” on the same page

                  – you began posting on this page reverting back to “username: Matt” and #4email

                  – Above you claimed that you have all sorts of different types of email accounts, e.g. gmail and yahoo. What if we check it out – did you use your OWN genuine accounts or different/fake ones on the same platform?

                  – If one to send a e-mail message to the mail adress you have entered in the “obligatory to fill” space to write this comment above to which I answer, will we get an answer?

                • Matt says:

                  Reply to Yalenis:

                  “Like MH-17, you are leading up to saying you think the Russians did it, but then you back out: “I didn’t say the Russians did it.””

                  I never said Russia shot down MH17. Not once. I only said that the Russian government and media lied about the SU-25s and spread disinformation.

                  “Or Kennedy assassination, according to your links, was obviously the job of the KGB, but then you weasel out again: “I didn’t say the KGB killed Kennedy, I merely pointed out that…” blah blah blah”

                  I never said the KGB killed JFK, just that they spread disinfo. I posted some links of Pacepa’s articles, who discusses the payments the KGB made to various people/media outlets, and who also espouses his own theory about JFK, but my posting of his articles was merely to point out his comments about the KGB’s financial ties to various conspiracy theory-pushers.

                • marknesop says:

                  I never said Russia shot down MH17. Not once. I only said that the Russian government and media lied about the SU-25s and spread disinformation.

                  Oh, I’m afraid that’s not quite true.

                  The U.S. admit it was behind the USS Vincennes shoot down. Not quite so with Russia’s disinformation campaign surrounding MH17. That is unprecedented in scope.

                  So the USA, which was behind the shoot-down of an Iranian-flagged civil airliner (flying in an established airlane and squawking proper IFF identification codes which advertise “I am civil aviation”), admitted it. Again, perhaps that’s how you see it, but if so there is a gulf between ‘admitting it’ and accepting fault and expressing regret. The USA claimed it believed the airliner to be an F-14 Tomcat – which the Iranians did and do have, the only foreign nation ever to fly this otherwise-exclusively-American fighter – and that it had every right to shoot it down in self defense. The official government line was that the USA would never apologize for taking action to protect American lives, which is pretty much the sanctimonious position it always takes when it shoots down the wrong aircraft or blows up a wedding or drones a bunch of non-involved civilians to hamburger. You know, the old “Bad people have celebrations too” disclaimer. But that’s neither here nor there as far as this issue goes, which is;

                  1. The USA admitted to shooting down the Iranian airliner;
                  2. The USA did shoot down the Iranian airliner;
                  3. Russia will not admit to shooting down MH17, instead churning out a bunch of disinformation; so…

                  Where are we to go from there, Matt, but to “Russia did do it, and is trying to cover it up”?

                  You frequently alternate your implications that Russia did it with drive-by claims that you think Ukrainian separatists did it. But the Ukrainian military publicly stated the separatists had no Buk systems, at least not any left behind by Ukraine, because Ukraine had responsibly destroyed them before it withdrew from the area. Ukraine did, however, have at least one Buk in that exact area just the day before the disaster, as demonstrated by Ukrainian MOD video. So the next-most-likely place from which the separatists might have obtained a Buk system is Russia. But nobody claimed to have seen a Buk system, which would have been a convoy of not less than four vehicles and probably six, traveling from Russia to Ukraine – instead, we’re told, just one lone launcher; in, shoots down MH17, and out.

                  So why the flood of ‘disinformation’ from Russia? I’ve already explained why the theory that the Russians supplied a single launcher which shot down MH17 with a single missile despite clear equipment limitations is silly and could not have happened, as well as all the crazy holes in the official narrative. So why would Russia not just shrug and say, “Guess the separatists shot it down”? What would Russia have to lose? They didn’t do it – Ukrainians did it. And the separatists would have a perfect excuse: it is illegal under the Ukrainian constitution – all versions – to use the nation’s military forces against the citizens of the country. Period. So Ukraine claims they are all terrorists from Russia. But it just publicly admitted it has no proof at all of Russian military forces in any strength inside Ukraine. Oh, oh; I see a problem. So Ukraine has, by extension, admitted it is using the military of the country against what it cannot prove are other than civilian citizens of Ukraine, in violation of the Ukrainian Constitution. And part of that military suppression is air force bombing and strafing, although Kiev knows perfectly well the separatists have no aircraft. The separatists, just like everyone else, are entitled to protect their own lives.

                  Where does that leave us? Unless the separatist girl in Slavyansk, who told her interviewer that the Ukrainian air force was using civil airliners as cover in an apparent attempt to get separatist forces to shoot at them was psychic, she forecast the disaster of MH17 by about a month, because she reported that behavior well before the disaster, not after. Surely Ukrainian citizens defending themselves in a civil war have the right to defend themselves against air attack? So they could say “I guess we shot it down by mistake. We warned you this might happen, but nobody did anything while Kiev used the national military against civilian citizens. Tough break”. And who would be guilty there? Once more, over the jumps: Ukraine is using the military against the civilians of the east. Indisputable. Ukraine is prohibited from doing that by its national constitution. Again, indisputable; look it up. Ukraine has publicly admitted it has no proof of Russian military forces in Ukraine. So who’s left, resisting the Ukrainian military? Civilian Ukrainians. Absolutely Russia has supplied or loaned them military equipment – what’s it supposed to do, just let the Ukrainian Army kill them? They drove a Pantsir anti-air system around Donetsk for a couple of days, and the Ukrainian air presence disappeared without having to shoot anyone down. The Clark-Karber Report called for all east-European nations to send all their post-Soviet military equipment to Ukraine for Kiev’s use in its military campaign – why would they do that, if it’s wrong to supply military equipment to one side or the other? I remind you, it’s illegal for Ukraine to use military force against the civilian population.

                  I think it’s pretty clear that Russia’s attempts to come up with an explanation are founded in a desire to demonstrate that Europe agreed to impose sanctions upon it for something it did not do.

                  And while we’re on that subject, I want to address something simpleminded that you said earlier, but I was distracted. You said the Russians showed radar pictures of what was actually pieces of MH17 falling out of the sky, and claimed one or more of those were SU-25’s.

                  Do you think Russian military officers are mentally retarded? A piece of a plane falling out of the sky has no forward speed or course marker, and is plainly descending in free-fall. See the line coming out of the blip? That’s a speed leader – it indicates the object’s course and that it has forward speed in that direction. A piece of falling wreckage cannot duplicate that. And the pictures the Russian MOD showed are stills from video captures – they still have the raw video recordings which show the ‘piece of wreckage’ flying around instead of falling. Whether or not it was an SU-25 remains open to debate. But it was not a piece of falling wreckage.

                • moscowexile says:

                  And the Ukrainian air force did shoot down an airliner, Siberia Airlines Flight 1812, over the Black Sea on 4 October 2001 whilst en route from Tel Aviv, Israel to Novosibirsk.

                  Only thing is, though, the Yukies denied shooting it down.

                  That means they lied.

                  Barefacedly.

                  For over a week.

                  Ukraine admits it shot down Russian airliner

                  By Ben Aris in Moscow12:01AM BST 13 Oct 2001
                  Ukraine finally admitted yesterday that its military shot down a Russian airliner that crashed into the Black Sea last week, killing all 78 passengers and crew.

                  Evhen Marchuk, the chairman of Ukraine’s security council, conceded that the plane had probably been brought down by “an accidental hit from an S-200 rocket fired during exercises”.

                  Russian investigators believe a missile exploded near the plane, spraying it with shrapnel. Russian and Israeli scientists found metal pellets in the victims and in the fuselage.

                  Vladimir Rushailo, the chairman of Russia’s security council, said: “The investigation has found that the disaster resulted from a strike by a warhead from an anti-aircraft missile.”
                  Although both Russia and Ukraine were almost certainly aware of the cause from the start, it took eight days for Ukraine to accept responsibility.

                • moscowexile says:

                  And the United States repeatedly denied that it had sent a U-2 spy plane over the Soviet Union.

                  Repeatedly!

                  The authorities in the SU were well aware of U-2 reconnaissance flights, but for nearly four years, however, the U.S.S.R. was powerless to stop them. Flying at an altitude of more than 13 miles above the ground, the U-2 aircraft were initially unreachable by both Soviet fighters and missiles. However, by the spring of 1960, the USSR had developed a new Zenith surface-to-air missile with a longer range. On May 1, that weapon locked onto a U-2 flown by 30-year-old CIA pilot Francis Gary Powers.

                  Powers was carrying out a mission to photograph Soviet military installations. Powers’ nine-hour flight was to have taken him from Pakistan to a landing zone in Norway.

                  On may 1, 1960, as Powers was flying over Sverdlovsk (Yekaterinburg), a Soviet surface-to-air missile exploded near his plane, causing it to drop to a lower altitude. A second missile scored a direct hit, and Powers and his aircraft were brought down.

                  Four days after Powers disappeared, NASA issued a very detailed press release noting that an aircraft had “gone missing” north of Turkey. The press release speculated that the pilot might have fallen unconscious while the autopilot was still engaged, even falsely claiming that “the pilot reported over the emergency frequency that he was experiencing oxygen difficulties”. To bolster this, a U-2 plane was quickly painted in NASA colors and shown to the media. Under the impression that the pilot had died and that the plane had been destroyed, the Americans had decided to use the NASA cover-up plan. Khrushchev used the American misstep to embarrass President Eisenhower and his administration…

                  On May 5, Khrushchev announced that the Soviet military had brought down an American spy plane, but he made no mention of the fact that Powers had been captured. Officials in the Eisenhower administration believed that little evidence of the plane’s espionage mission had survived the crash, so they responded that the aircraft was merely a weather plane that had accidentally flown off course.

                  After Khrushchev found out about America’s NASA cover story, he developed a political trap for Eisenhower. His plan began with the release of information to the world that a spy plane had been shot down in Soviet territory, but he did not reveal that the pilot of this plane had also been found and that he was alive. With the information that Khrushchev released, the Americans believed that they would be able to continue with their cover story that the crashed plane was a weather research aircraft and not a military spy plane. The cover-up said that the pilot of the U-2 weather plane had radioed in that he was experiencing oxygen difficulties while flying over Turkey. From there they claimed that the plane could have continued on its path because of auto-pilot, and that this could be the plane that crashed in the Soviet Union. The final attempt to make the cover story seem as real as possible was the grounding of all U-2 planes for mandatory inspection of oxygen systems in order to make sure that no other “weather missions” would have the same result as the one that was lost and possibly crashed in the Soviet Union.

                  On May 7, Khrushchev sprang his trap and announced:

                  I must tell you a secret. When I made my first report I deliberately did not say that the pilot was alive and well … and now just look how many silly things the Americans have said.

                  As the trap began to come together, it became clear that Gary Powers was alive and that he had told his mission to the Soviets. Also, because of the release of some photographs of the plane, there was evidence that most of the covert U-2 technologies had survived the crash. From this Khrushchev was able to openly embarrass the Eisenhower administration by exposing the attempted cover-up…

                  Eisenhower, on realizing that the mendacity of his administration concerning this matter had been exposed, at first thought that he should resign. Congress, however, decided that Eisenhower’s direct role in approving every previous U-2 flight over the previous 4 years should be played down

                  The next day on May 10, without consulting with any agency heads, House Appropriations Chair Clarence Cannon received considerable press attention when he, not President Eisenhower, revealed the true nature of the U-2 mission. He said to an open session of the House of Representatives that the U-2 was a CIA plane engaged in aerial espionage over the Soviet Union. Cannon said,

                  Mr. Chairman, on May 1 the Soviet Government captured, 1300 miles inside the boundaries of the Russian empire, an American plane, operated by an American pilot, under the direction and control of the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, and is now holding both the plane and the pilot. The plane was on an espionage mission … The activity … [was] under the aegis of the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States, for whom all members of the subcommittee have the highest regard and in whose military capacity they have the utmost confidence.

                  Apparently, Cannon was unaware that the Russian Empire had ceased to exist some 43 years before he made the above statement.

                  At the end of Cannon’s speech, Democrats and Republicans uncharacteristically rose to their feet to applaud.

                  Still Eisenhower faced criticism in the press for not controlling his own administration, as Cannon’s speech only said the mission was “under the aegis of” the president, not “directed by.” Press reports were creating a belief in the public that Eisenhower had lost control, which Eisenhower would not let stand. Knowing that he was jeopardizing the Paris Peace Summit, Eisenhower decided to reveal the aerial espionage program and his direct role in it, an unprecedented move for a U.S. President. His speech on 11 May revolved around four main points: the need for intelligence gathering activities; the nature of intelligence gathering activities; how intelligence activities should be viewed (as distasteful, but vital); and finally that Americans should not be distracted from the real problems of the day. Eisenhower closed passionately by reacting to the Soviet claim that the US acted provocatively and said: “They had better look at their own [espionage] record.” As he finished, he told reporters he was still going to the Paris Peace Summit.

                  Source: Wiki

                  A large part of the downed in 1960 U-2 wreck as well as many items from Powers’ survival pack are on display at the Central Armed Forces Museum in Moscow.

              • Matt says:

                “If one to send a e-mail message to the mail adress you have entered in the “obligatory to fill” space to write this comment above to which I answer, will we get an answer?”

                My current posts are made with my own, real email – the one with the magenta-colored icon.

                The previous emails I entered were random letters I typed in the “email box”.

                • Lyttenburgh says:

                  “My current posts are made with my own, real email – the one with the magenta-colored icon.

                  The previous emails I entered were random letters I typed in the “email box”.”

                  So, you admit of lying.

                  First you say:

                  “My first email was hotmail, then to use Android, I had to make a gmail account. Then I have a spam email I use for sites I don’t trust with my primary email. That’s three accounts.”

                  Then you claimed:

                  “Think slower, investigator Lyttenburgh. First I was not using my own emails, but now I am.”

                  See? Typical behaviour of the liar caught red-handed. Self-contradiction, trying to wriggle out of the situatuin while employing lies time after time…

                • Matt says:

                  “First you say:”

                  “My first email was hotmail, then to use Android, I had to make a gmail account. Then I have a spam email I use for sites I don’t trust with my primary email. That’s three accounts.”

                  “Then you claimed:”

                  “Think slower, investigator Lyttenburgh. First I was not using my own emails, but now I am.”

                  —————————————–

                  It seems we have misunderstood what each of us has been saying. Let me be extremely clear: initially, I was just typing in random letters for the email box. When I would close the browser and open it again, I would again type in random stuff in the email box. Then, when you complained about me using multiple emails, I changed to a single email.

                  You then began asking me why I have multiple emails. Now, I think I may have misunderstood what you meant, thinking you were asking why I own multiple emails. I then explained my various emails – hotmail, gmail, etc. – that I created over the years, NOT the emails I first used here on this blog – they were still random.

                  Thus, there is no contradiction in what I said. Nor is there any lying on my part. I own several emails, but only used on here (current one). Previous posts were made with randomly-typed in emails.

                • yalensis says:

                  Dear Matt:
                  Why don’t you just use the same email account that you use for your Reddit Moderator duties?

                • Matt says:

                  Reply to yalenis:

                  “Dear Matt:
                  Why don’t you just use the same email account that you use for your Reddit Moderator duties?”

                  I am using a temp email for that. Reddit’s commenting system is miles ahead of WordPress’. There really isn’t any need to use email for comment notifications – you can get them right in the website if you’re logged in and have Reddit Enhancement Suite installed.

                  Wouldn’t it be cool if this website had a subreddit dedicated to it? Shall I make one?

                  Done!

          • Cortes says:

            I’m also curious about the spelling of the “Venezuelan’s” name.

            Made me think of:

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Helm

            In this case the surname ought to be Helmet.

    • Lyttenburgh says:

      Kek!

  30. Matt says:

    ‘We’ll find you, too’ An anonymous website is identifying Russians who attended Alexey Navalny’s June 12 anti-corruption protests

    https://meduza.io/en/feature/2017/07/09/we-ll-find-you-too

    • marknesop says:

      Why is ‘illegal protests’ in quotation marks? Were the protests in accordance with the law, or were they not? Is it the author’s position that protest actions are not subject to legal regulation, and you can do whatever you want to do in a free country? He’s eminently accessible – why don’t you ask him?

  31. Matt says:

    How the KGB Duped Oliver Stone: http://www.thedailybeast.com/was-russia-behind-cia-killed-jfk

    Has anyone read Pacepa’s articles on KBG disinformation about JFK? Fascinating stuff:

    https://pjmedia.com/mihaipacepa/2013/11/20/the-new-proof-of-the-kgbs-hand-in-jfks-assassination

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    • Yo Mama! says:

      Masturbation+

    • marknesop says:

      Has anybody read that the KGB in Russia officially disbanded more than 25 years ago? Unless there’s a Belorussian connection, which I’m afraid I doubt, the author is out to lunch. And while we’re on the subject of ‘Russian disinformation’, please provide examples of information which was released in Mrs. Clinton’s emails and those of her associates, prior to the election, which was not true, and therefore ‘disinformation’, regardless of who released it.

      • Matt says:

        You didn’t bother reading the article. The author is referring to the KGB’s financial support to authors in the 60s/70s who wrote books about the CIA being behind JFK’s death. The author is NOT referring to the FSB/GRU/SVR, etc. Once again, you create an artificial strawman and then proceed to debunk it. Read the article, as well as Pacepa’s articles. Pacepa is the Cold War’s single-highest ranked defector from the Eastern Bloc.

        Another strawman you create: I never said Russia was behind the Podesta email leaks or that it was Russian disinformation.

        Stop blaming me for things I never said/stated/implied and read the articles before you mistakenly criticize them.

        • marknesop says:

          I assure you I did read it; at least, as far down as I ever read anything issued by The Daily Beast.

          Did the dates escape you? Stone’s film was released in 1991, the same year the Soviet Union collapsed. The ‘KGB’ had precious little time to dupe Stone. Kennedy was killed in 1963, nearly 30 years previously.

          But I’m glad you brought it up, because the suspicion that one or more of America’s intelligence agencies was somehow involved is not new, nor was it restricted to the Soviet Union. Several questions were raised by the film, which have never been adequately answered and refer to events and situations which in retrospect look odd, particularly since Stone used the solidest reference available at the time – the transcripts of the Warren Commission. To the very best of my knowledge, no connections between its members and the KGB have ever been established, or even postulated.

          Such as, the FBI and the US Army attempted more than once to duplicate Oswald’s shot, using the same elevation and distance (nearly 100 yards, pace it off and see if you think you could even hit the car, never mind an occupant’s head), and were never able to account for how he could have hit a moving target at that distance using a cheap rifle which could not even be aimed accurately in its existing condition. Although much was made of Oswald having been a US Marine – it was alluded to in Full Metal Jacket – he was not a marksman, and would have been unlikely to employ such a rudimentary weapon if he were. Such as, why did the bullet allegedly found on the stretcher appear almost pristine, despite having allegedly caused 7 wounds including breaking Governor Connally’s wrist and rib? The bullet introduced to the Warren Commission, Exhibit 399, was fraudulently introduced into evidence and was not the bullet allegedly found on the stretcher – few knew that before Stone’s film. When Oswald returned from the USSR, he was loaned travel money by the State Department and issued with a new passport within 48 hours. He was not ever charged for revealing classified information to a foreign power. He paid $1,500 for an air ticket to Moscow although his bank records said his account balance was $203.00.

          There was also no end of motive for the American intelligence services to want Kennedy out of the way. A good deal of circumstantial evidence – including the Operation Northwoods info to which I already directed your attention, and which demonstrates that one of the stratagems considered as a false flag to inspire an invasion of Cuba was the shooting down of a civil airliner, blamed on Cuba – suggests strong support in the CIA for an invasion of Cuba. Kennedy withdrew his support for intervention after the Bay of Pigs fiasco, obtained the resignation of longtime CIA director Allen Dulles, and transferred control of paramilitary operations to the Defense Department from the CIA.

          • Matt says:

            “Did the dates escape you? Stone’s film was released in 1991, the same year the Soviet Union collapsed. The ‘KGB’ had precious little time to dupe Stone. Kennedy was killed in 1963, nearly 30 years previously.”

            You didn’t read the article carefully – it says some of the information which Stone used in his film had earlier been manufactured by the KGB.

            As for the all issues with the shooting scenario, this lengthy article does a good job explaining what happened and what didn’t happen, using more recent information:

            http://www.newsweek.com/2014/11/28/truth-behind-jfks-assassination-285653.html

            Read the articles by Pacepa that I posted. The KGB financed Mark Lane’s various books on the CIA killing JFK. It’s important to note that his first book on the matter happened to be the first book on JFK’s assassination to be released. And it was a best seller. This is well-established fact, due to the Mitrokhin Archives. The KGB was also responsible for the Active Measures in Italy mentioned in the Daily Beast Article.

            • marknesop says:

              Suppose this is true – and I’m not saying it is, because the evidence does not seem to be conclusive. You know better than to suggest that a book being a best-seller is not indicative of KGB financing, and if it was a best-seller it suggests more than a few people found the theory that the American intelligence services were involved in offing Kennedy compelling. But let’s say for the sake of argument that it’s all true, and the KGB did finance newspapers and book authors in the USA with a view to establishing the Soviet Union’s viewpoint of a particular event.

              Is that bad? Because if it is, the United States plainly did not learn anything from it. Before the National Endowment for Democracy realized too many people were getting wise to its destabilization efforts in Russia by financing journalists and promotional literature urging the Russian people to rise up and throw out their leaders in favour of democracy and freedom, it used to detail its projects in Russia on its website, together with a list (under ‘Our Partners’) that identified its donors, which included several major defense contractors, energy companies and interventionist think tanks. They don’t display that information any more, but most of us here have seen it and you might trust us not to lie to you. If you don’t, somebody might still have a screenshot.

              But I’m sure they were not trying to ‘dupe’ the intelligentsia. They probably wanted only the best for them and for the Russian people – defense contractors have a long history of selfless, do-goodie altruism.

              • Matt says:

                I never said that the fact the book became a best-seller is proof of the KGB’s involvement; I mentioned it was a best-seller to show its widespread influence.

                And how is the evidence of Mark Lane being financially assisted by the KGB not conclusive? Mark Lane was most definitely financed by the KGB, per the Mitrokhin Archives.

                This is what the Mitrokhin archives say about Mark Lane:

                https://books.google.ca/books?id=tiNqCAAAQBAJ&lpg=PP1&pg=PT394#v=onepage&q=mark%20lane&f=false

                Aa for NED, that’s different than the deliberate lies the KGB told by seeding them through an Italian newspaper. Promoting opposition-based media is one, spreading deliberate lies as part of an international campaign to spread a conspiracy theory is another.

                • marknesop says:

                  Well, we don’t know they are lies, do we? Can you say for a certainty the CIA was not involved in JFK’s death? I do hope so, because then you can explain how a single bullet made 7 different wounds, apparently having to change trajectory several times to do so, hitting bone, and then emerged virtually undamaged on the stretcher which carried the stricken president. I’m really glad you brought this whole JFK thing up, because it’s interesting. Perhaps what the KGB said – through intermediaries – is true.

                  Any differences you cite here are mere window-dressing – different execution, same purpose: the insertion of propaganda into the national discourse. Call it ‘progressive’, call it ’empowerment’, call it what you want; it’s the same thing.

          • yalensis says:

            Seems like Westies are butthurt about Oliver Stone’s interview with Putin.
            So they ordered their paid trolls, like Matt, to bring Ollie down.
            Meanwhile, Oliver Stone remains a giant, and his theory about JFK’s assassination remains the most credible one so far!

            (Not that I give a shit about JFK, the guy was a monster. But still interesting history, seems pretty certain it was the CIA what done him in.)

            • Matt says:

              I am paid by the Soros Bank of Super Zion. How did you ever figure me out?

              But what the Daily Beast article says about Stone is true – his film contains disinformation spread by the KGB:

              ——————————-

              That probe, as every conscious American knew, was district attorney Jim Garrison’s re-investigation of President Kennedy’s assassination amid a pronounced erosion of public confidence in the Warren Report. On March 1, 1967, Garrison had ostentatiously announced the arrest of Clay Shaw, a respected businessman, and charged him with complicity in JFK’s death.

              Garrison’s theory of the case was that JFK’s assassination was actually a “homosexual thrill-killing.” The president had been murdered in broad daylight because he was everything the conspirators were not: “a successful, handsome, popular, wealthy, virile man.” Under this scenario, Shaw, who was gay but closeted, also went by the name of Clay Bertrand, a mysterious person linked to the assassination. “Bertrand” had supposedly tried to arrange a defense counsel for Lee Harvey Oswald during the weekend following his capture on Friday, Nov. 22, 1963. The Warren Commission and FBI thoroughly investigated the “Bertrand” allegation in 1964, and had concluded (correctly) that it was a fabrication concocted by a publicity-seeking New Orleans attorney named Dean Andrews. “Bertrand” was not even a real person.

              …headlines appeared around the globe, including in Paese Sera, a small-circulation newspaper published in Rome. The story that ran in its pages on March 4, however, was unlike any other. Clay Shaw, Paese Sera alleged, had been involved in “pseudo-commercial” activities in Italy while serving on the board of the defunct Centro Mondiale Commerciale. Ostensibly devoted to making Rome a commerce hub, the CMC had actually been “a creature of the CIA… set up as a cover for the transfer to Italy of CIA-FBI funds [sic] for illegal political-espionage activities.”

              Garrison didn’t know that Paese Sera belonged to a select group of allegedly non-communist periodicals used to propagate disinformation, rather than have these stories originate in Communist Party organs. Paese Sera’s long-suspected role in Moscow’s active measures was confirmed beyond any doubt in 1999, when historian Christopher Andrew and former KGB archivist Vasili Mitrohkin published The Sword and the Shield, a history of the KGB that is a treasure trove of disclosures about Soviet clandestine and subversive activities during the cold war.

              Still, throughout March and into April the story promptly gained traction in the left-wing French, Italian, Greek, and Canadian press. Moscow’s Pravda picked up the story too, publishing it under the simple headline, “Clay Shaw of the CIA.”

              On April 25, the New Orleans States-Item published its copyrighted story, reporting that Shaw, still the only person indicted, had been linked to the CIA “by an influential Italian newspaper.” It took more than 20 column inches before Paese Sera (routinely labeled “crypto-Communist” by the State Department) was described as “leftist in its political leanings.” The Associated Press picked up the States-Item scoop for distribution on its national wire, and the story was reprinted, in varying lengths, in hundreds of newspapers nationwide.

              Having laid the groundwork, Garrison now unleashed a barrage of accusations, one more sensational and jaw-dropping than the next. The CIA had commanded Lee Harvey Oswald; the CIA had shielded the real assassins; the CIA had deceived the Warren Commission and hid evidence with the FBI’s connivance—no, the CIA had deceived the FBI too! As with Senator Joe McCarthy, the legitimacy conferred by public office gave Garrison a license for audacious mendacity. Except now the zeitgeist wasn’t that Communists were under every bed—the CIA was.

              …Garrison’s lean good looks camouflaged a cunning demagogue, who challenged not only the veracity of the Warren Report but the federal government’s very legitimacy, asserting that “what happened… in Dallas on November 22, 1963, was a coup d’état… instigated and planned… by fanatical anticommunists in the United States intelligence community.”

              The toxic brew of a domestic demagogue mixed with dezinformatsiya was a KGB dream come true: an elected U.S. official was affirming what Moscow had been saying for years about America’s corrupt political system and its military-industrial complex. In the space of a few months, Garrison legitimated the fable that the CIA was complicit in President Kennedy’s assassination and that American democracy itself was an illusion.
              Clay Shaw’s trial finally commenced in January 1969. Despite two years of allegations and a promise of testimony that would “rock the nation,” Garrison’s case was remarkably unchanged from the loopy account presented at Shaw’s preliminary hearing. The prosecution failed to produce a scintilla of CIA involvement, and jurors eventually rendered a unanimous verdict of “not guilty” after deliberating 54 minutes.

              Afterward, Garrison insisted that the actual legal results did not make his investigation any less valid. … What is certain is that the KGB did not rest on its laurels. For the balance of the cold war, efforts to expose the ostensible role of the “American special services” in the Kennedy assassination remained a staple of Moscow’s active measures—to the point where the KGB “could fairly claim that far more Americans believed some version of [Moscow’s] conspiracy theory… than accepted the main findings of the Warren Commission,” as Andrew and Mitrokhin wrote.

              ​In 1988, Garrison published a memoir and made explicit the connection between his grand conspiracy and Paese Sera. No one noticed, the Shaw prosecution having long been dismissed as a legal farce. But then Garrison’s publisher thrust a copy of the memoir into the hands of Oliver Stone during an international film festival in Havana. That encounter led to Paese Sera’s disinformation becoming the centerpiece of a Hollywood blockbuster. At the 88-minute mark of Stone’s JFK, Garrison (portrayed by Kevin Costner) confronts Shaw (Tommy Lee Jones) with a newspaper article in Italian supposedly exposing Shaw’s work as a CIA operative….

              ..

              ​Even allowing for hyperbole, that is why a fantasy concocted by an Italian newspaper that trafficked in disinformation remains Moscow’s single most successful influence operation.

              ———————————————-

              • marknesop says:

                Still, throughout March and into April the story promptly gained traction in the left-wing French, Italian, Greek, and Canadian press. Moscow’s Pravda picked up the story too, publishing it under the simple headline, “Clay Shaw of the CIA.”

                But publishing a story under the simple headline of “How the KGB duped Oliver Stone” is completely honest and agenda-free.

                In 1996 the CIA disclosed that Clay Shaw had obtained a five-agency security clearance in 1949. Was he a CIA asset? Uhh…yes, he was.

                • Matt says:

                  “Now it happened to be true that from 1948 to 1956, Shaw, like hundreds of other American businessmen, had volunteered economic information to the CIA’s Domestic Contact Service, routinely gathered during his frequent trips abroad, mostly to Latin America. Shaw’s insights, however, were no more than what could be gleaned from a close reading of The Wall Street Journal, and he was never a covert operative. His relationship with the agency ended before the CMC was even founded, and that trade promotion organization was never a CIA front.”

                  Also, just because Clay Shaw at one time worked for the CIA, doesn’t prove the lies spread by the Italian newspaper/KGB about him, or the wild accusations by Garrison.

                • marknesop says:

                  So you say. I reserve the right to disagree with your position, and I do. If Shaw was once a CIA asset it seems reasonable to believe he could still be contacted by the agency and put to use as it saw fit. I also notice a clear and measurable bias in your assessments depending on whom you are discussing. If it’s the CIA, you have to have been a covert operative before you can reasonably be thought to be up to funny business; the CIA contains thousands of employees who are totally harmless! Whereas if you worked in any capacity for the KGB you are a liar. Both are intelligence agencies dedicated to furthering the foreign policy objectives of their respective countries, and neither is more believable – the CIA getting caught in barefaced lies is about as unusual as snow in November.

              • Special_sauce says:

                “I am paid by the Soros Bank of Super Zion.”

                But you do push pjmedia at us. A hasbara outpost if ever there was, where every New York “Jew”(and the scare quotes are apt) is entitled to a slice of Palestine, gratis, though their ancestors never saw a palm or ate a date.

                • Matt says:

                  Pacepa ain’t Jewish, you dimwitted dolt.

                • Special_sauce says:

                  Ran out “reply”s
                  Pacepa ain’t Jewish, you dimwitted dolt.

                  Thankyou, but with the right word in the right ear he can be made an honorary member of the tribe. Eg John Bolton.

                  My point, for the edification of others, I know you’re incorrigible, is that pjmedia is tainted and untrustworthy. Lie to me once…

            • marknesop says:

              I wouldn’t say a theory that the CIA killed Kennedy or allowed him to be killed is the ‘most credible theory’, or that it was by any means certain that they did him in. I don’t even know if that’s what Stone believes – I think he just wanted to get the myriad of positions which will not mesh with one another in front of the public, because both the Single Bullet Theory and the Lone Gunman Theory have big holes in them. The establishment assassination theory insists Kennedy was shot from behind, while both his body reaction and the testimony of qualified medical personnel who examined the body suggested the shot came from the front, and the wound in the throat was an entry wound rather than an exit wound. I’m not saying they were right, but circumstances cast serious doubt on the official narrative. Official American behavior attendant on Oswald’s movements before and after his trip to the Soviet Union is pretty much the polar opposite of the treatment you would expect of someone suspected of being an agent for a foreign, unaligned power.

              But yes, the suddenly-renewed interest in maligning Stone is significant, and trying to tell us something.

              • yalensis says:

                Yep. Whatever the American equivalent of “Savushkina Street” trolls are out in force trying to discredit poor old Ollie Stone.

                • Matt says:

                  A single article pointing out that one of Stone’s earlier documentaries repeated KGB disinformation about JFK’s death is not evidence of a global campaign against Oliver Stone.

      • Matt says:

        Cold War fake news: Why Russia lied over Aids and JFK

        http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39419560

    • Matt says:

      Putin repeats the disinformation spread by his former employer, and hundreds of thousands of Western useful idiots are duped! It doesn’t get an better than this folks. Peak disinfo.

      • Jen says:

        In the interview, Putin only presents the notion of President Kennedy having been killed by US intelligence as a theory which at least deserves as much investigation as other theories about his murder. No-one knows if it is correct or incorrect and the only way to find out if it is correct or not is to go over the facts of his assassination and the wider political context at the time it took place, and ask questions like: was Kennedy at loggerheads with the CIA or any other US government agency close to the CIA at the time, and who would have stood to benefit from his being killed. Until the idea is tested and found to be wanting in evidence, it can’t be dismissed as disinformation.

        • Matt says:

          It is known fact that the KGB financed authors and newspapers for the purposes of Active Measures, including to spread disinformation about the CIA being behind JFKs assassination. Someone no less than Pacepa himself has written about this.

          Ultimately, many American Presidents are “at odds” with the CIA, If they are killed, then that doesn’t mean it was the CIA.

          The links I give in this comment contain more info:

          The Credibility Gap That Ought To Be

        • marknesop says:

          Yes, where have we seen that “It’s just a theory, and as such deserves to be investigated” line before? Why, as I live and breathe, it was our brother Matt, defending the theory that the Russians slipped a single Buk launcher into east Ukraine, and which subsequently – with or perhaps without active Russian military participation – was employed to accidentally shoot down a civil airliner, whereupon the Russians scampered back to Russia with it using a wildly improbable route (according to Bellingcat, which was obviously bending the points to fit the curve of all the ‘sightings’ from its disciples but which resulted in a path to the border which was neither the shortest nor the most surreptitious and included at least one overpass the Buk launcher on a flatdeck could not pass under). Nonetheless, saith Matt, it remains a valid theory and must be taken seriously until disproved, in which cause mere improbability is not sufficient.

          Once again, applying the old crime triangle of means, motive and opportunity, who had better access to Kennedy – the CIA or the KGB? Who had more options for procuring long guns which would be virtually impossible to bring into the United States by air, but would have to be bought in the USA or smuggled in by boat – the CIA, or the KGB? Who knew Kennedy’s route and security presence far enough in advance to set up an ambush with a rifle – the CIA or the KGB? Who had more motive – the CIA or the KGB? What was the Soviets’ motive? Granted, Kennedy faced them down over the installation of medium-range missiles in Cuba. But Kennedy also reversed himself on his administration’s regime-change policy in Cuba (although it apparently continued efforts to assassinate Castro), forced the director of the CIA to resign and took paramilitary intervention out of the CIA’s purview: was the KGB anxious to get Johnson in the driver’s seat, where he quickly got America embroiled in Vietnam under the auspices of rolling back Communism? That seems hardly likely.

          • Matt says:

            “it was our brother Matt, defending the theory that the Russians slipped a single Buk launcher into east Ukraine”

            You’re putting words into my mouth. I never claimed Russia gave the rebels a BUK. I said they probably captured it from the Ukrainians.

            “Once again, applying the old crime triangle of means, motive and opportunity, who had better access to Kennedy – the CIA or the KGB? Who had more options for procuring long guns which would be virtually impossible to bring into the United States by air, but would have to be bought in the USA or smuggled in by boat – the CIA, or the KGB? Who knew Kennedy’s route and security presence far enough in advance to set up an ambush with a rifle – the CIA or the KGB? Who had more motive – the CIA or the KGB? What was the Soviets’ motive?”

            These questions, based off of a false dichotomy, imply that I think the KGB killed JFK, which is utterly false and I have never said that. I am simply saying they spread conspiracy theories about the assassination, not that they were the ones to kill JFK.

            • marknesop says:

              Are you going to make me find the comment where you said Russia smuggling a Buk into Ukraine was a theory which needed to be treated as seriously as any other? No, of course you didn’t say the Russians did it – you merely imply that if they told more than one story, they are obviously lying and so when they say they didn’t do it, nobody should take any notice of their squirming denials. I think that is absolutely a fair characterization, and fits your modus operandi to a ‘T’. You insinuate so that there is no other reasonable conclusion which can be drawn other than what you want to be assumed, preserving the ability to retreat by saying “I never said that”.

              If you are not saying the KGB had something to do with JFK’s death, merely that they spread conspiracy theories about his death, then you are wasting your talents on a non-issue, because conspiracy theories and even telling outright lies is not bad. All the western democracies do it so regularly it is not even worthy of mention: remember the Bush team starting a whisper campaign that John McCain had fathered a black child (she is his adopted daughter, and is not black) and was a traitor to America while a POW, which destroyed his chances at the nomination in 2000? It is known today who was responsible for these lies, and that they were lies. Are they in jail? Sure aren’t. Whoopty doo. Nobody even blinks. If you are trying to stir up outrage or shore up other arguments by painting an organization which has not existed for more than 25 years lying – arguably – about something that took place more than 50 years ago as germane to events today, you are going to run into a relevance problem. You can continue to be outraged if you want to; but in my opinion, it looks a little silly.

              • Matt says:

                “because conspiracy theories and even telling outright lies is not bad. All the western democracies do it so regularly it is not even worthy of mention”

                Large-scale conspiracy theories, whether about JFK, AIDS, ISIS, Russia, etc. are destructive. Take a look at some of the more popular websites/YouTube accounts out there – they are full of lies and dumb conspiracy theories, which viewers blindly believe.

                You say conspiracy theories are not bad, but you know full well the effect of the Russia-gate hoax: unjustified hatred against a country and its government, and delegitimizing the POTUS.

                “Are they in jail? Sure aren’t. Whoopty doo. Nobody even blinks.”

                They don’t have to go to jail. They deserve to have their voices taken away from them.

                • marknesop says:

                  Once again – is it a conspiracy theory that the JFK assassination might have included CIA involvement, either active or passive? A lot of things about it remain unexplained, and unexplainable by the official narrative.

                  Yes, there are large-scale conspiracy theories out there, and you are contributing to one of them with your continued repetition that Russia lied about there being another aircraft near MH17 when its transponder ceased functioning, by attributing aircraft identities to falling pieces of the plane’s wreckage. I already explained that that was just not true and why not. Max van der Werff’s site, to which I have pointed you repeatedly, even contains a photograph of what the person who took it says is an SU-25 against the background of the column of smoke from the crashed plane. It’s very hard to see and impossible to identify at its present resolution, but if you blow it up you can tell from the pixelation that there is something there. It also could be a PhotoShop, but Max claims to have the unretouched photo in his possession and offers it for examination. Experts could tell pretty quickly if it was a fake as well as identify what the object is.

                  Defenders of the “Separatists did it using a Russian Buk” theory seem to think the SU-25 thing is a major weakness in Russia’s story. Be careful: it’s not.

    • Matt says:

      >According to new KGB documents, which became available after Programmed to Kill was published, the Soviet effort to deflect attention away from the KGB regarding the Kennedy assassination began on November 23, 1963—the very day after Kennedy was killed—and **it was introduced by a memo to the Kremlin signed by KGB chairman Vladimir Semichastny. He asked the Kremlin immediately to publish an article in a “progressive paper in one of the Western countries …exposing the attempt by reactionary circles in the USA to remove the responsibility for the murder of Kennedy from the real criminals, [i.e.,] the racists and ultra-right elements guilty of the spread and growth of violence and terror in the United States.”**

      >The Kremlin complied. **Two months later, R. Palme Dutt, the editor of a communist-controlled British journal called Labour Monthly, signed an article that raised the specter of CIA involvement without offering a scintilla of evidence.** “[M]ost commentators,” Dutt wrote, “have surmised a coup of the Ultra-Right or racialists of Dallas . . . [that], with the manifest complicity necessary of a very wide range of authorities, bears all the hallmarks of a CIA job.” **Semichastny’s super secret letter and Dutt’s subsequent article were revealed by former Russian president Boris Yeltsin in his book *The Struggle for Russia*, published 32 years after the Kennedy assassination.**

      >Dutt’s article was followed by the first book on the JFK assassination published in the U.S., Oswald: Assassin or Fall Guy? It was authored by a former member of the German Communist Party, Joachim Joesten, and it was published in New York in 1964 by Carlo Aldo Marzani, a former member of the American Communist Party and **a KGB agent**. Joesten’s book alleges, without providing any proof, that Oswald was “an FBI agent provocateur with a CIA background”. **Highly classified KGB documents smuggled out of Russia with British MI-6 help by KGB defector Vasili Mitrokhin in 1993—long after the two U.S. government investigations into the assassination had been completed—show that in the early 1960s, Marzani received subsidies totaling $672,000 from the Central Committee of the Communist Party.** That raises the question of why Marzani was paid by the party and not by the KGB, whose agent he was. The newly released Semichastny letter gives us the answer: on the next day after the assassination, the Kremlin took over management of the disinformation operation aimed at blaming America for the JFK assassination. That is why Oswald: Assassin or Fall Guy? was promoted by a joint party/KGB operation.

      >The book’s first review, which praised it to the skies, was signed by Victor Perlo, a member of the American Communist Party, and was published on September 23, 1964, in New Times, **which I knew as a KGB front at one time printed in Romania.** On December 9, 1963, the “progressive” American journalist I. F. Stone published a long article in which he tried to justify why America had killed its own president. He called Oswald a rightist crackpot, but put the real blame on the “warlike Administration” of the United States, which was trying to sell Europe a “nuclear monstrosity.” **Stone has been identified as a paid KGB agent, codenamed “Blin.”**

      >…

      >Joesten dedicated his book to Mark Lane, an American leftist who in 1966 produced the bestseller Rush to Judgment, alleging Kennedy was assassinated by a right-wing American group. **Documents in the Mitrokhin Archive show that the KGB indirectly sent Mark Lane money ($2,000),** and that KGB operative Genrikh Borovik was in regular contact with him. Another KGB defector, Colonel Oleg Gor­dievsky (former KGB station chief in London), has identified Borovik as the brother-in-law of Col. General Vladimir Kryuchkov, who in 1988 became chairman of the KGB and in August 1991 led the coup in Moscow aimed at restoring the Soviet Union.

      >The year 1967 saw the publication of two more books attributed to Joesten: The Case Against Lyndon Johnson in the Assassination of President Ken­nedy and Oswald: The Truth. Both books suggested that President Johnson and his CIA had killed Kennedy. They were soon followed by Mark Lane’s A Citizen’s Dissent (1968). **Lane has also intensively traveled abroad to preach that America is an “FBI police state” that killed its own president.**

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      Also, the above is merely an introduction to this:

      https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2013/11/20/11-facts-that-destroy-jfk-conspiracy-theories-part-one/

      https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2013/11/20/11-facts-that-destroy-jfk-conspiracy-theories-part-two/

      https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2013/11/20/11-facts-that-destroy-jfk-conspiracy-theories-part-three/

      Also, these interviews given by Pacepa are good summaries of the information above:

      http://www.wnd.com/2013/11/evidence-shows-kgbs-hand-in-jfk-assassination/

      http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=28335

      • yalensis says:

        No, no, my dear Matt, this is what actually happened:
        The CIA had Kennedy killed (for internal American domestic political reasons), with the intention of framing the crime onto the Soviet Union/Cuba.
        The Soviets saw what was happening, and took immediate action to deflect the frame and present their own side of the story.
        Prove me wrong.

        • Matt says:

          The KGB’s “own side of the story” involved paying a Commie Italian newspaper to spread a lie about Clay Shaw, the poor man falsely accused of being a CIA agent who plotted JFK’s death due to “homosexual” reasons, by the Trump-like demagogue known as Jim Garrison.

          More info about the Italian newspaper, Paese Sera, courtesy of the Mitrokhin Archives:

          https://books.google.ca/books?id=tiNqCAAAQBAJ&pg=PT507&lpg=PT507&dq=Paese+Sera+Mitrohkin&source=bl&ots=N5Fq96ULuO&sig=62QBDxOXPccxzR1NdvReK0twuoQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwioseqyrYLVAhXK7YMKHU6ZBlwQ6AEIODAC#v=onepage&q=Paese%20Sera&f=false

          Pacepa, the Eastern Bloc’ highest ranked defector from the Cold War, tells us:

          According to new KGB documents, the Soviet effort to deflect attention away from the KGB regarding the Kennedy assassination began on November 23, 1963—the very day after Kennedy was killed—and it was introduced by a memo to the Kremlin signed by KGB chairman Vladimir Semichastny. He asked the Kremlin immediately to publish an article in a “progressive paper in one of the Western countries …exposing the attempt by reactionary circles in the USA to remove the responsibility for the murder of Kennedy from the real criminals, [i.e.,] the racists and ultra-right elements guilty of the spread and growth of violence and terror in the United States.”

          The Kremlin complied. Two months later, R. Palme Dutt, the editor of a communist-controlled British journal called Labour Monthly, signed an article that raised the specter of CIA involvement without offering a scintilla of evidence. Semichastny’s super secret letter and Dutt’s subsequent article were revealed by former Russian president Boris Yeltsin in his book The Struggle for Russia, published 32 years after the Kennedy assassination.

          Dutt’s article was followed by the first book on the JFK assassination published in the U.S., Oswald: Assassin or Fall Guy? It was authored by a former member of the German Communist Party, Joachim Joesten, and it was published in New York in 1964 by Carlo Aldo Marzani, a former member of the American Communist Party and a KGB agent. Joesten’s book alleges, without providing any proof, that Oswald was “an FBI agent provocateur with a CIA background”. Highly classified KGB documents smuggled out of Russia with British MI-6 help by KGB defector Vasili Mitrokhin in 1993 show that in the early 1960s, Marzani received subsidies totaling $672,000 from the Central Committee of the Communist Party.

          The book’s first review, which praised it to the skies, was signed by Victor Perlo, a member of the American Communist Party, and was published on September 23, 1964, in New Times, which I knew as a KGB front at one time printed in Romania. On December 9, 1963, the “progressive” American journalist I. F. Stone published a long article in which he tried to justify why America had killed its own president. He called Oswald a rightist crackpot, but put the real blame on the “warlike Administration” of the United States, which was trying to sell Europe a “nuclear monstrosity.” Stone has been identified as a paid KGB agent, codenamed “Blin.”

          Joesten dedicated his book to Mark Lane, an American leftist who in 1966 produced the bestseller Rush to Judgment, alleging Kennedy was assassinated by a right-wing American group. Documents in the Mitrokhin Archive show that the KGB indirectly sent Mark Lane money ($2,000), and that KGB operative Genrikh Borovik was in regular contact with him. Another KGB defector, Colonel Oleg Gor­dievsky (former KGB station chief in London), has identified Borovik as the brother-in-law of Col. General Vladimir Kryuchkov, who in 1988 became chairman of the KGB and in August 1991 led the coup in Moscow aimed at restoring the Soviet Union.

          ———————————————-

          On April 10, 1963, just before he tried to kill American Gen. Edwin Walker in a dry run before going on to assassinate President Kennedy, Oswald left his Soviet wife, Marina, a handwritten note in Russian. That very important note contains two KGB codes: friends (code for support officer) and Red Cross (code for financial help). In that note, Oswald tells Marina what to do in case he is arrested. He stresses that she should contact the (Soviet) “embassy,” that they have “friends here,” and that the “Red Cross” (written in English, so that she’ll know how to ask for it) will help her financially. Particularly significant is Oswald’s instruction for her to “send the [Soviet] embassy the information about what happened to me.” At that time, the code for embassy was “office,” but it seems that Oswald wanted to be sure Marina would understand that she should immediately inform the Soviet embassy – whose address was also included in that note. It is noteworthy that Marina did not mention this note to U.S. authorities after Oswald’s arrest. It was found at the home of Ruth Paine, an American friend with whom Marina was staying at the time of the assassination.

          In my book, “Programmed to Kill,” I presented proof that Marina came to the United States with a false biography, created by the KGB. No assassination investigator took that proof seriously because no one has ever built a KGB-style wife. I did. In the mid 1980s, Michael Ledeen, at that time an adviser to President Reagan, and I published a long article (“La Grand Fauche”) in the French magazine L’Éxpress, describing how my foreign intelligence service, the DIE, had built such KGB-style wives. Marina Nikolayevna Oswald looks like a carbon copy of such a KGB-style wife described in L’Éxpress.

          Here is one similarity. In May 1961, Oswald wrote to his brother, Robert, and to the U.S. Embassy in Moscow telling them that he had gotten married, and that his wife was born in the city of Leningrad. I published quite a few testimonies of Russian émigrés living in the U.S. who met Marina and confirmed that she spoke with a Leningrad accent. But the birth certificate Marina brought with her when she immigrated to the U.S. shows she was born in Molotovsk, a remote area where it would be unlikely for anyone in the West to be able to check. This practice was widely used by the KGB – and my DIE.

          I approved many biographical legends for “wives,” and I can spot quite a few other “holes” in Marina’s legend. In the U.S. she claimed her father had died before she was born, and she did not know anything about him, not even his name. Thus, she took the name of her stepfather, Aleksandr Medvedev. In this case, her patronymic should have been Aleksandrovna, not Nikolayevna. Some of my case officers also lost sight of such details.

          Then there is her “uncle” in the KGB – a stock character who was en vogue at that time in the bloc foreign intelligence community. Those “uncles” were used to explain how the “wife” was able to rush the approval for her marriage and for her exit visa. Marina had an “Uncle Ilya,” an NKVD colonel (Ilya Prusakov), who allegedly helped her speed up the approval of her marriage to an American, and obtain her exit visa.

          The “uncle in the KGB” continued for many years to play various roles in foreign and domestic KGB operations. Several Marines stationed at the U.S. embassy in Moscow in 1986 and carrying on affairs with local Soviet girls were eventually introduced to an “Uncle Sasha,” who was actually a KGB officer who tried to recruit them. One of those Marines, Sgt. Clayton J. Lonetree (sentenced for espionage), described how his relationship with Violetta Aleksandrovna Seina, a Soviet translator for English, grew from a chance meeting in a Moscow subway station into a series of clandestine rendezvous in a house ostensibly owned by her “Uncle Sasha.” A few months later, Violetta introduced Lonetree to her “Uncle Sasha” himself, at another meeting that also began “in a subway station” (information from George Bouhe published in “Marina and Lee”). Another of those Marines, Cpl. Arnold Bracy, was for his part accused by American authorities of failing to report personal contacts with an attractive Soviet cook and with her “Uncle Sasha.”

          Oswald’s “Historic Diary,” which he brought with him when he returned to the U.S. in 1962, has also all the signs of a KGB forgery. An American handwriting expert estimated that this “Historic Diary” must have been written in one or two sittings. It was probably also drafted in a rush after the KGB decided to send Oswald back to the U.S., judging by such anachronisms as giving a figure in new rubles for January 1960, when the ruble devaluation did not take place until a year later, and naming John McVickar as chief American consular officer in Moscow as of October 1959, when he, in fact, did not assume that position until almost two years later. My case officers used to make such mistakes as well. My American wife has noted that the “Historic Diary” also contained a number of British expressions and spellings that could have not been used by an uneducated American like Oswald. “Alferd is a Hungarian chap,” Rosa is “very merry,” and Ella refuses Oswald’s “dishonourable advanis” are just a few such examples. There is an explanation for them as well. In those days, the DIE officers who were sent to Moscow for operational training, which included language lessons, learned only British English, as that was what the KGB instructors spoke – the KGB did not get its first teachers of American English until 1964.

          Other recently disclosed KGB documents prove that Moscow capitalized on the Watergate scandal to implicate the CIA in Kennedy’s assassination. In 1975, a note addressed to “Mr. Hunt,” dated Nov. 8, 1963, and signed by Oswald, turned up in the U.S. The note is nicely ambiguous in its use of “Mr. Hunt.” In 1975, the name of the CIA’s E. Howard Hunt was well known from the Watergate affair.

          We, in the Romanian DIE, knew the “Dear Mr. Hunt” note was a fake, but American graphological experts certified that it was genuine. Conspiracy theorists connected the note to the CIA’s Hunt, and used it to “prove” that the CIA had been behind Kennedy’s assassination.

          In 1993, when the U.S. commemorated 30 years since Kennedy had been killed, Moscow definitively tried to wash its hands of the case. “Passport to Assassination: the Never-Before-Told Story of Lee Harvey Oswald by the KGB Colonel Who Knew Him,” is a KGB book written for an American, not Russian, audience, by a “retired” KGB officer (Oleg Nechiporenko). It claims to present “definitive proof” that Kennedy was killed by the CIA.

          Capitalizing on the “Dear Mr. Hunt” note, the book concludes that the “assassination was organized by the CIA” and was the result of “a conspiracy of right-wing extremists, in which the billionaire E. Howard Hunt played a special role.” Note how nicely the KGB merged the name of the Texas billionaire H. L. Hunt with that of the CIA veteran E. Howard Hunt into a brand new name: “E. Howard Hunt.”

          A few years latter, genuine KGB documents smuggled out of the KGB archive by KGB Col. Vasily Mitrokhin, proved that the “Dear Mr. Hunt” letter had been forged by the KGB to implicate the CIA in Kennedy’s assassination. The forged note was twice checked for “authenticity” by the KGB’s Technical Operations Directorate, or OTU, and approved for use. In 1975 the KGB mailed three photocopies of the note from Mexico to conspiracy buffs in the United States. I note that KGB (and DIE) rules allowed only photocopies of counterfeited documents to be used, to avoid close examination of the original.

          The “Dear Mr. Hunt” note in the photocopy was then picked up by the New York Times, which claimed it had been authenticated by three handwriting experts and by Oswald’s widow.

          ——————————————————-

          The above is a small sample.

          https://www.dallasnews.com/news/news/2012/11/10/kgb-files-on-lee-harvey-oswald-offer-peek-into-accused-assassins-time-as-defector-in-russia

          https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2013/11/20/11-facts-that-destroy-jfk-conspiracy-theories-part-one/

          https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2013/11/20/11-facts-that-destroy-jfk-conspiracy-theories-part-two/

          https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2013/11/20/11-facts-that-destroy-jfk-conspiracy-theories-part-three/

          • Special_sauce says:

            so Oswald, a renegade Marine, returns to the US from Russia, via Cuba, pops up in Nawlins, preaching Communism, is interviewed as a staunch Communist, spouting red jargon, is witnessed, and beaten, handing out fliers for Cuban “Fair Treatment”…you’d think of all people he’d be on the CIA’s radar. But no, he just happens to land a job, in a book warehouse, with a view, of all places, of a future parade route of the US President. Just a coinkydink?

            • Special_sauce says:

              Then, to top it off, Oswald is shot to death, in the fucking police station, by a mobster who said he did it because he was sad to see Jackie suffer.

            • Matt says:

              “with a view, of all places, of a future parade route of the US President.”

              Uh, so what? Do you expect the CIA to have hidden all people like Oswald, away from the view of JFK? Absurd.

              • Special_sauce says:

                All people like Oswald? No, just Oswald. It wouldn’t have been hard.

              • marknesop says:

                Would you not think that someone who defected to the enemy, and came back showing all the signs of a bitter subversive, might be watched? Hang on – perhaps you’re right: after all, the FSB flat-out warned American intelligence agencies that Tamerlan Tsarnaev was a dangerous radical, and they took no notice until after he and his brother blew up the Boston Marathon finish line. I guess you do have a point, but I don’t think it’s the one you intended to make.

    • Jen says:

      Pacepa’s articles and books linking the KGB and JFK’s assassination are indeed fascinating reading … when one considers that the fellow is well into his late 80s, all his most important work was done nearly 40 years ago (when he defected to the US) and his only value now to US intelligence is to make up whatever fairy tales he knows his handlers want to hear.

      In addition Pacepa has worked for the CIA and that fact alone may well disqualify him as a credible source of information on the JFK assassination, especially if other, more solid and credible research suggests a link may indeed exist between the CIA and Kennedy’s murder – in which case Pacepa serves as a willing tool to run interference between those who would pursue that link and the CIA itself.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_Mihai_Pacepa

      • Matt says:

        “all his most important work was done nearly 40 years ago (when he defected to the US) and his only value now to US intelligence is to make up whatever fairy tales he knows his handlers want to hear.”

        Circular reasoning. You claim his usefulness is over, so he’s writing random stuff. Except he’s just another columnist on PJMedia. That is not even remotely comparable to someone who has just defected and starts hammering out lies to keep the CIA interested. Furthermore, you imply what he says is no longer of value due to the age of his work, except the events he discusses also occurred decades ago. That in fact means he is one of the best people in the world to discuss, say, KGB disinformation about JFK’s assassination, since he was involved at the time. Once again, I must emphasize: your claim that he’s lying to receive benefits from the CIA is wholly false. The CIA does not pay him to write these columns on PJMedia. Everything he’s written about he probably briefed the CIA about decades ago.

        Now, say if Pacepa was pretending to release new information after all these decades, and trying to tell it to the CIA for money, then what you say would be true. But he isn’t.

        “In addition Pacepa has worked for the CIA and that fact alone may well disqualify him as a credible source of information on the JFK assassination”

        Fallacious reasoning. You are making the mistake of attacking the source rather than the content. He references everything he says using real information, whether that be the Mitrokhin Archives, declassified KGB documents, etc. Thus, it would be fairly easy to determine whether he’s lying or not. And he isn’t.

        Give his articles a read. You haven’t read them due to their length, hence your non-substantive reply.

        I think you just don’t want to believe the KGB spread disinformation about JFK’s assassination, just like you don’t want to believe Russia lied about MH17. This is understandable, considering the poor state of the Western media, but don’t forget it was “open-minded” people like you who spread the KGB’s lies about JFK, AIDS, etc. The KGB used sympathetic “anti-imperialist” Leftists as their agents of influence.

        • Jen says:

          How do you know that Pacepa is not lying and has never lied or made up stories, and how do you know that the sources he uses are not themselves compromised?

          The fact that Pacepa has done work for the CIA is relevant to the discussion about the JFK assassination and attempts to link it to (and blame) the KGB. Who would benefit if somehow the responsibility for the murder can be deflected and made to stick to the KGB? The CIA could very well gain a psychological advantage if the KGB were made culpable. Would it not be in the CIA’s interest to push the responsibility towards the KGB and away from itself? Pacepa would be the perfect sycophant to embroider such a narrative with selective and dubious sources of “information”, drawing on his own memories and experiences (accurate or enhanced by his own imagination).

          You are pushing the trolling very hard with this flood of rubbish about Pacepa’s articles and his fantasies about the KGB and Russia being responsible for JFK’s murder and other things besides. Your use of linked articles is very selective and the sources you quote seem to be very dubious. When other people press you for accurate sources or want clarification, you go all coy and zip off onto another tangent such as the JFK assassination so that this blog site gets enough “KGB” mentions that at some later date it can be targeted for censorship or shut-down. If anyone is being evasive and deliberately telling lies here, it is you.

          • Matt says:

            “How do you know that Pacepa is not lying and has never lied or made up stories, and how do you know that the sources he uses are not themselves compromised?”

            You clearly don’t know about the Mitrokhin Archives. They’ve outed spies, and revealed much confirmed information. They show that the KGB financed those who spread conspiracy theories about JFK’s death.

            Information from the Mitrokhin Archives has never been shown to have been false. Not once.

            “The fact that Pacepa has done work for the CIA is relevant to the discussion about the JFK assassination and attempts to link it to (and blame) the KGB…. drawing on his own memories and experiences (accurate or enhanced by his own imagination).”

            If what he is saying is false, then someone should point out the falsehoods. It is as simple as that.

            “Your use of linked articles is very selective and the sources you quote seem to be very dubious.”

            The sources I use are ironclad. I’ve posted direct links to books about the Mitrokhin Archives showing the KGB’s financing of certain people/media.

            The Italian newspaper that spread disinformation about Clay Shaw:

            https://books.google.ca/books?id=tiNqCAAAQBAJ&pg=PT507&lpg=PT507&dq=Paese+Sera+Mitrohkin&source=bl&ots=N5Fq96ULuO&sig=62QBDxOXPccxzR1NdvReK0twuoQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwioseqyrYLVAhXK7YMKHU6ZBlwQ6AEIODAC#v=onepage&q=Paese%20Sera&f=false

            KGB’s financing of Mark Lane, author of numerous books on conspiracy theories focusing on JFK’s death, whose first book on the matter was a best seller and also the first book to ever have been released about JFK’s assassination:

            https://books.google.ca/books?id=tiNqCAAAQBAJ&lpg=PP1&pg=PT394#v=onepage&q=mark%20lane&f=false

            “so that this blog site gets enough “KGB” mentions that at some later date it can be targeted for censorship or shut-down.”

            Hahaha, I can only laugh at this statement. Censorship? Shut-down? All because I typed in “KGB” a couple of times? Get a grip.

            • marknesop says:

              “The fact that Pacepa has done work for the CIA is relevant to the discussion about the JFK assassination and attempts to link it to (and blame) the KGB…. drawing on his own memories and experiences (accurate or enhanced by his own imagination).”

              If what he is saying is false, then someone should point out the falsehoods. It is as simple as that.

              Hey, you know what? You’re right. It really is as simple as that. So says the Catholic Church; be careful about accusing them of something that might see you come back next time as a toad.

              • Matt says:

                Read the bottom of the article – including the various responses by someone who was quoted, and the editor and the author of the review:

                —————————–

                Father Peter Gumpel:

                Having read the Register’s review (Aug. 10, NCRegister.com) of Disinformation by professor Ronald Rychlak and Gen. Ion Pacepa, I am writing to protest and express my outrage at the way in which a quotation of mine was misused to support this uncouth review.

                The comment of mine which is quoted: “It is necessary to take into account that spies need to justify their existence, and must give value to things that have very little importance or none at all,” comes from a 2007 Zenit News Agency story (as the review itself briefly acknowledges) and therefore has nothing whatsoever to do with the 2013 publication of Disinformation, the
                specific book under review.

                Moreover, the way in which my 2001 quotation was used, in the Register’s review of Disinformation, leaves the impression that I doubt Pacepa’s statements dealing with the communist disinformation campaign against Pius XII, and consider them nothing more than a spy-induced fabrication. In fact, as anyone who reads the 2007 Zenit, news article can made it abundantly clear at the time that there was in fact a concerted communist campaign to infiltrate and compromise the Vatican, and to defame Venerable Pius XII.

                Therefore, both professor Rychlak and Gen. Pacepa deserve to be praised, not attacked, for recounting and documenting this indisputable historical reality in Disinformation.

                Instead of highlighting this, However, the review launches into a series of ad hominem attacks against Gen. Pacepa, which I am sure both he and professor Rychlak can answer. It should also be stressed that both men authored the book together — a book they submitted to me in advance of publication — and so the Register’s attempt to separate the excellent work of professor Rychlak, which I have long admired and supported, from Gen. Pacepa’s is not only unconvincing, but self-evidently wrong.

                ———————–

                The editor responds:

                The Register acknowledges that Victor Gaetan, while crediting the 2007 source of the quote he used, did not seek additional comments from Father Gumpel regarding the book Disinformation to clarify Father Gumpel’s views on the credibility of Gen. Ion Pacepa. However, the Register did not at any time indicate that a disinformation campaign against Pope Pius XII did not take place. On the contrary, regarding the research of professor Ronald Rychlak, the Register previously has published Rychlak’s own account of why he believes Pacepa’s story in the article “The Framing of Pius XII from Skepticism to Belief.”

                ————————-

                The writer responds:

                In light of Father Gumpel’s letter, I’m afraid the following three historical facts are not clearly enough stated in my book review of Disinformation: 1) From its inception, the Soviet Union targeted the Catholic Church as an enemy power; 2) the Kremlin’s intelligence apparatus, the KGB, attempted to infiltrate the Vatican, especially during and after the Second Vatican Council; and 3) Pope Pius XII’s heroic behavior has been maligned by political forces uninterested in historical accuracy.

                Stefano Bottoni, an Italian-Hungarian scholar, plumbed the Hungarian archives and found devestating evidence of decades-long spy missions launched against Rome after 1963 — information not even mentioned by Pacepa/Rychlak.

                KGB archives confirm the reality of a multilateral plan to penetrate the Vatican.

                According to material in The Sword and the Shield by former KGB archivist Vasili Mitrokhin and British historian Christopher Andrew, senior Soviet bloc officials met in Budapest in 1967 to discuss ways to discredit the Vatican. Interestingly, only representatives from Romania disagreed with the need to target the Catholic Church.

                ————————————-

                Notice how the editor and author both agree that some of what Pacepa said is true and there was indeed a KGB disinformation campaign against the Vatican and Pope.

                Not only that, but the author of your linked piece explicitly mentions the Mitrokhin Archive!

                • marknesop says:

                  Ahh…now some of what Pacepa said was true. And I already specified that if the KGB funded a disinformation campaign against anyone, it is passé in the extreme in light of modern events considering how long ago it occurred. Somebody said something that wasn’t true? Well, I never. And saying (or writing) the words, “The Mitrokhin Archive” does not imply you agree that everything contained therein is true.

                  Obviously, not everyone considers Pacepa a bastion of truth and selflessness. Influential elements of the Catholic faith do not.

            • Jen says:

              I may not know much about the so-called Mitrokhin archives but if a low-level clerk with a chip on his shoulder about the KGB can transcribe thousands of KGB documents by hand, smuggle them out of KGB headquarters or archives without being noticed or observed and carry the treasure trove out of the Soviet Union and into Britain with the help of MI6, I would be very suspicious indeed of their authenticity. For one thing, who is to say that most of these documents have not been made up by the British themselves – especially as they appear to say or confirm what Western intelligence agencies wanted to believe about the KGB almost without exception?

              • Matt says:

                Mitrokhin spent decades doing this. He would summarize the documents in a small piece of paper and put it under his shoe to bring it home. After many decades, he had a small stash at his dacha and eventually smuggled it out. Doesn’t seem suspicious to me.

                Furthermore, the archives have ousted spies who had turned over decades ago, some even as far back as the ’50s, who were quite old in the ’90s when the information came out.

                Lastly, the archives only recently became accessible and only in person, IIRC. If the West did this to spread lies, they would have opened up the archives a long time go.

                No discrepancies have been noted with the archives. Not a single one.

        • marknesop says:

          Yes, don’t forget to work that talking point about MH17 in there; no comment is complete without it and redirection is an important tactic to stay on-message; well done. Didn’t you say just a few pages back that you yourself did not believe the Russians had done it? Has the KGB duped you as well? Check your tea for traces of polonium.

          • Matt says:

            ” Didn’t you say just a few pages back that you yourself did not believe the Russians had done it? Has the KGB duped you as well? ”

            I never said Russia shot down MH17. Why do you think otherwise?

            • Jen says:

              Mark didn’t think otherwise: he only said that you yourself admitted that you did not believe that the Russians had shot down MH17.

              At the same time, you have said that the Russian government has lied about the nature of the MH17 shootdown by bringing in a conspiracy theory about Sukhoi fighter jets being in the vicinity of MH17 at the time it was shot down. So if you believe that Russia is deliberately dissembling, then what do you believe about how the Boeing 777 was brought down?

    • Lyttenburgh says:

      You are wrong, userperson “Matt”. In fact, Kennedy’s (“Kennedy” can derive from “wounded head” in Gaelic) assassination was the ancient Celtic druidic ritual of the “Sacred King” sacrificed in order to tie it to the land. During the 1960s, a remake of MacBeth titled “MacBird!” presented the JFK assassination as precisely that king-killing. Because heads are known to possess the prohetic power (see Bran the Blessed) even when detached from the dead body, it was imperative to shoot Kennedy in the head. Lone gunman Carl Edward Schermer shoot him. OTOH, Bobby Kennedy’s severed head is preserved and do make prophetic yet mysterious auguries from time to time.

      Warren Commision was full to the gills with Masons. According to Dallas motorcycle patrolman Marrion Baker, Texas School Book Depository clerical supervisor Mrs. Robert Reid, and Oswald’s own testimony, he bought and drank a Coke on the second-floor lunchroom of the School Book Depository shortly after Kennedy was shot. All references to the Coke were stricken from the main Warren Commission report. Richard Nixon, rejected by the Coca-Cola company, went to work for Pepsi – on whose business he was in Dallas on November 22, 1963. JFK drank Coke. Coincidence? I don’t think so.

      Here – try to prove me wrong, userperson “Matt”.

  32. moscowexile says:

    Poroshenko is crowing over “victory against the Kremlin” again, though this time not by his wondrously mighty army:

    Порошенко назвал соглашение об ассоциации Украины с ЕС поражением Кремля

    Poroshenko has called the Ukraine association agreement with the EU a defeat for the Kremlin

    June 11, 2017_ 14:26

    Ukrainian President Pyotr Poroshenko said that the EU Council’s approval of an association agreement with Ukraine was “another defeat for the Kremlin”.

    “The association agreement was one of the key requirements and expectations of EuroMaidan. And I am pleased that we were able to reach it through joint efforts. And the Kremlin, which mobilized all its resources against the association, cynically violated international law, launched aggression against the Ukraine, suffered another defeat”, wrote the fat twat in his Facebook.

    According to him, after approval of the agreement, the Ukraine is waiting for a “qualitatively new stage on the path towards the EU”. The Ukrainian leader noted that this is the path of “deep and comprehensive reforms”, in which the country will be helped “by the European Union and the entire civilized world”.

    “I am convinced that we shall win. The Ukraine will necessarily be in the family of European nations – both in the EU and in NATO”, concluded Porky.

    • moscowexile says:

      And Porky is eagerly awaiting more moola to come flowing into his bank thanks to the boundless munificence of the EU Commissars.

      • Cortes says:

        More moola, perhaps?

        Apologies.

        • marknesop says:

          I already corrected it. For further reference, ‘moola’ is slang for money in large amounts, while a ‘mullah’ is a religious leader. Itinerant Englishmen who live on fishheads cannot be expected to know these things.

          • moscowexile says:

            I wrote this: moolah

            I know what a mullah is.

            Perhaps my spellchecker changed it and I did not notice.

            Sometime the spellchecker is a pain when it tells me have spelt something wrongly, as it has just done with my spelling of the past participle of the verb “spell” 17 words back.

            • Cortes says:

              And I swithered about the “h”, ME. I can see the point of the silent “h” as indication of the lost “f” in harina < farina etc. But in moola? Meh! 🙂

              • moscowexile says:

                I wanted to spell it as “moola” but checked the spelling out at Oxford dictionaries and used “moolah”, but I didn’t like that “h”.

                And speakers of RP English pronounce -oo- differently to the way you and I probably do — long, which pronunciation is also in “rude” or “suit”, which latter word Russian teachers of English never tire of telling me should be pronounced /sju:t/ as in “Bute”, but I have never, ever heard a compatriot, least of all one from my old neck of the woods, pronouncing “suit” in that way, which pronunciation is what I call “strangulated, Bertie Wooster RP’, that sort of pronunciation where “tyre”, “tar” and “tower” are all pronounced identically, e.g. “I had to change my tyre near the tower and got tar on my hands”.

                There’s that bloody spellchecker again!

              • Cortes says:

                Rarely has LOL been more appropriate:

            • marknesop says:

              I think probably the spellchecker automatically changed it and you did not notice. I routinely change misspellings or spelling out of context when I notice them, although not the content of comments, usually before I notice that the commenter has asked for a correction.

              Interestingly, spelt is an ancient grain in the wheat family; dependent upon what settings your spellchecker is programmed to, it may not pick it up as an error, as mine does not.

    • marknesop says:

      Perhaps this would be a good time to revisit the defeated nation, and the victor. Here’s the former. And here’s the latter.

      I have to say, just on the face of it – bear in mind, I’m not an economist – that for a nation which has suffered defeat after defeat at the hands of its more nimble and cosmopolitan neighbour, Russia is in surprisingly good shape. Let’s look.

      GDP growth rate in the defeated nation: -0.57%, trending positive since last report when it was -1.31% GDP growth rate in Maidania: -.3%, trending positive since last report when it was -4.7%. One of these countries is the target of economic sanctions which seek to wreck its economy. The other is the recipient of grants and loans from western institutions.

      Unemployment in the Aggressor Nation: 5.2%. Unemployment in the Nascent Democracy: 10.5%. Inflation rate in the International Law Violator, 4.4%. Inflation rate in the Deep and Comprehensive Reformer, 15.6%. Balance of Trade in the Friendless and Isolated Pariah: $8.001 Billion USD. Balance of Trade in the Jewel of the EU’s Crown, -$151 Million USD.

      Government debt to GDP ratio in the Oppressor of Europe: 17%. Government debt to GDP ratio in the Inspiration of Europe: 79%.

      In 2014, during the period Ukraine’s imports from Russia fell by 45%, and its exports to Russia by 35%, its exports to the EU increased by 2.6%. Yes, that’s right – a 2.6% gain set against an overall loss of 13.5%, all in. In 2015, the situation worsened.

      But all the Times and WaPo want to talk about is how Ukrainians can travel visa-free throughout the Shengen Area. What a triumph.

      • moscowexile says:

        Пушков назвал ассоциацию Украины с ЕС поражением Порошенко

        Pushkov has called the association of the Ukraine with the EU a defeat for Poroshenko

        MOSCOW, July 11 – RIA Novosti. Senator Aleksei Pushkov believes that the agreement on the association of the European Union with the Ukraine, approved on Tuesday by the Council of Ministers of Economy and Finance of the EU countries, is a defeat for the policy of the President of the Ukraine, Petro Poroshenko, as it contains restrictive quotas.

        [Poroshenko vainly prides himself as regards the EU association. It is a bonding agreement that has a mass of limitations on Ukraine quotas. The defeat is not for the Kremlin but his own.]

        In a message from the EU Council it is stated that “the association agreement is the main instrument of rapprochement of the Ukraine with the European Union: it contributes towards a deepening and strengthening of economic relations, as well as respect for shared values”. The economic part of the agreement “will help bring key sectors of the Ukrainian economy closer to the standards of the European Union”, says the document

      • moscowexile says:

        And if I am not mistaken, Porky is, if not the richest person in the Ukraine, he is the richest head of state in Europe. He also has thedubious honour of owning a company that has not shown a loss since the “Revolution of Dignity”; in fact, I think Porky’s business interests in Yukiestan showed 11% growth last year and Porky’s bank (yes, the head of state’s very own money box) is very much a profit making organization: I think it is the only such profitable bank in the Ukraine now.

        Another thing: Porky is the only head of state in the world who owns a TV channel.

        And what happened to that massive bombshell that was going to expose Putin for the corrupt swine that he is?

        Nothing came of it, apart from the fact the Porky and not Putin, has offshore accounts in Panama.

        Anything done about this?

        No, absolutely not: sweet fuck all, and down the black memory hole the exposé went.

        • Cortes says:

          Her Madge is, of course, poorer than Porky?

          • moscowexile says:

            No, I think not: I should have said “president”.

            Porky is an executive president.

            Betty Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg is a mere figurehead of state, they always say, and has limited political powers, which she doesn’t use because if she did, they say, there would be a constitutional crisis.

            But there ain’t no constitution — not a codified one, anyway.

            Her vast wealth, they also say, is misleading: all those baubles she has stashed away together with her many desirable residences and royal properties, they say, do not really belong to her: she keeps the whole lot it in safekeeping, as it were, for the state, of which she is the figurehead.

            See: Royalty or Republic – a reckoning

  33. Warren says:

    Published on 11 Jul 2017
    Abby Martin talks to Venezuelans on the streets of Caracas and investigates the main claim that there’s no free press, and that there is no food in the supermarkets.

    Using hidden cameras, she takes you through local grocery stores and the underground black market currency exchange, the main source of inflation in the country.

    Abby sits down with economist Pasqualina Curzio to learn more about the nature of the black market and chronic shortages of goods. Knowing that world leaders are calling for foreign intervention, Abby finds out if locals agree.

    This video has English language subtitles.

    • Northern Star says:

      Useful as an understanding of what is at the bottom of the current crisis:
      (At least according to Scott Tong)

      https://www.marketplace.org/2016/04/18/world/resource-curse/venezuela-ranchers

      https://www.marketplace.org/2016/07/18/world/venzuela

    • Matt says:

      Abby Martin is someone who I’d shag, but she’s just another naive useful idiot. Maduro claims the drop in oil prices is not the real reason behind Venezuela’s economic crisis. he says it’s a random website giving real information about the currency plus the Gringos collaborating with hundreds of thousands of right-wing, fascist, CIA-agent Venezuelans to create artificial supply shortages – it’s not caused by the runaway inflation – that is the root cause.

      The dictator Maduro, supported by the Castro Mafia, is trying to silence the national legislature by rewriting the constitution. The dictator earlier failed to use the Supreme Court, full of his cronies, to accomplish this task. His support is no more than 10-20%, he is hated by Venezuelas, screw a 20-minute video showing carefully-edited garbage.

      The piece of scum is trying to silence the state prosecutor – she opposes his jailing of peaceful opposition members, muzzling of the national legislature, his failure to diversify the Venezuelan economy away from oil exports, his delusional ranting about gringo CIA agents sabotaging the economy, etc.

      The openly-partisa and corrupt Supreme Court will soon silence the dissident state prosecutors:

      Venezuela’s dissident state prosecutor expects to be fired:

      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-politics-idUSKBN19P20L

      The dictator now says this:

      “We’ll fight back, we’ll never surrender and what we couldn’t achieve through votes, we’d do with guns”

      And they call the opposition “violent”. This scum was perish as rapidly as possible. Venezuelans can’t even eat right and he’s busy blaming America!

      • Special_sauce says:

        lol, are you in the wrong place!

      • Special_sauce says:

        begone gusano shitsack! you can’t carry Maduro’s moustache trimmer. Reuters? Really?

        • Matt says:

          Yes, Reuters. So what? The information is true, even if you don’t want to believe it.

          Maduro will gut the national legislature, and has failed to reform the economy, blaming the “gringos” while the country starves. Wonderful.

          But you’re right: Maduro’s moustache trimmer can only be carried by loyal useful dogs like you. Go lick him.

      • Special_sauce says:

        Ugh, The United$hit$ and Miami gusanos don’t give a rats ass if Venezuelans starve. Don’t come here pretending to care, fucking worm!

        • Matt says:

          I’d rather be a worm than a filthy Maduro dog like you.

          You useful idiot, the “United$hit$” is Venezuela’s top buyer of oil, the lifeline of the economy. If the U$$$$$$$$ stops buying the oil, Venezuela is finished. And while Venezuelans starve, scum like you ignore Maduro’s filthy lies about the U$$$$$$$$ “sabotaging” the economy.

          You must be truly dumb to believe his lies about the CIA being behind the food shortage. Wow, you truly are stupid.

          • Special_sauce says:

            “If the U$$$$$$$$ stops buying the oil,” Somebody else can buy it.

            • Matt says:

              If only it were that easy. But reality conflicts with your hopeful comment. Nobody would fill in for the U.S. Venezuela would collapse rapidly.

              • Special_sauce says:

                Oh, I dunno, China is doing well in Africa, trading precious raw materials, for work on infrastructure. Mebbe they could swap Venezuelan oil for a couple hospitals. Or a military base. Merka won’t object, surely, they’re doing it all around the world. ‘Coz VALLEY FORGE!!!!

                • Matt says:

                  China already buys plenty of Venezuelan oil and Venezuela is so indebted to China that it’s giving them oil for free, to pay back loans.

                  America is sustaining the Venezuelan economy, not “sabotaging” it.

                • Special_sauce says:

                  You misspelled “milking”

              • Special_sauce says:

                “Venezuela would collapse rapidly.”

                Then NED won’t have to keep bribing oligarchs to maintain the reaction. And Freedom(tm) will reign!

          • marknesop says:

            Here’s somebody who agrees with you. Naturally it’s just part of that good old US of A munificence that removing Maduro will give American oil companies control of the Venezuelan energy industry. And that just spells prosperity for Venezuela’s poor and downtrodden, don’t it?

            What? It doesn’t? Oh, my; look at that – countries who have oil are twice as likely to experience civil war as those without. I wonder why? Mmmm….yes, I might have known who is behind it. It’s becoming clearer who is really the useful idiot, and what cause he serves.

            When is it considered legitimate to try and overthrow a democratically-elected government? In Washington, the answer has always been simple: when the US government says it is. Not surprisingly, that’s not the way Latin American governments generally see it.

            On Sunday, the Mercosur governments (Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, and Venezuela) released a statement on the past week’s demonstrations in Venezuela. They described “the recent violent acts” in Venezuela as “attempts to destabilize the democratic order”. They made it abundantly clear where they stood.

            But doesn’t oil mean happy times for the population? It can, if resources are properly managed. Is there any indication that profit-driven foreign oil companies actually care much about that? Sure, so far is it prevents revolutions which might damage their operations once they’re established.

            Dutch disease is almost unavoidable in countries whose primary export is oil. As foreign funds flow in to pay for oil, the country’s real exchange rate begins to appreciate. The country’s exports become more expensive and imports cheaper. Local manufacturing and agriculture suffer as exports decrease and local prices for domestic production begin to rise. This inflation hurts populations not sharing in the oil boom. Dutch disease has shrunk the agricultural and manufacturing sectors of many developing oil-producing countries, including Algeria, Colombia, Ecuador, Nigeria (where oil production undermined the preexisting cocoa, palm oil, and rubber industries), Trinidad, and Venezuela. Despite the economic growth fueled by oil revenues, the loss of jobs and economic opportunities in the agriculture and manufacturing sectors can impose hardship on large numbers of people, often the poorest members of society.

            Who constitutes the “population not sharing in the oil boom”? That’s right – the Chavistas, most of the poor. Who stands to cash in? The liberal elite, and the pet ‘reformers’ with big ideas how America will set them on the road to riches. Mmm hmmm….as usual, American diplomats are tight with the opposition, just like they are every time they run a regime-change operation. Very selective, though – when they don’t see any furtherance for American objectives, the political opposition can howl until they turn blue and never get the USA to take a bit of notice.

            Of course we all know who the US government supports in Venezuela. They don’t really try to hide it: there’s $5m in the 2014 US federal budget for funding opposition activities inside Venezuela, and this is almost certainly the tip of the iceberg – adding to the hundreds of millions of dollars of overt support over the past 15 years.

            But what makes these current US statements important, and angers governments in the region, is that they are telling the Venezuelan opposition that Washington is once again backing regime change. Kerry did the same thing in April of last year when Maduro was elected president and opposition presidential candidate Henrique Capriles claimed that the election was stolen. Kerry refused to recognize the election results. Kerry’s aggressive, anti-democratic posture brought such a strong rebuke from South American governments that he was forced to reverse course and tacitly recognize the Maduro government. (For those who did not follow these events, there was no doubt about the election results.)

            Boy, the more things change, the more they stay the same, isn’t that right? And by the way, oil is essentially stateless and is bought and sold as a commodity on the global market. If the USA ‘stopped buying oil from Venezuela’, brokers would buy Venezuelan oil futures and sell them on the global market and some or most of it would end up in the United States anyway, probably at a higher price since news the USA was sanctioning a major oil producer would cause panic and drive prices up. Why do you think they don’t sanction Gazprom?

            • Matt says:

              Maduro blames the economic crisis on the U.S. The hyperinflation? Shortages of basic goods? All caused by the CIA and “gringos” – he uses that exact term in his televised speeches.

              The opposition, he claims, is financed by the CIA, and therefore, he needs to rewrite the constitution.

              He needs to be ousted, quickly.

              • marknesop says:

                Yes, I figured you’d say that. It must be done quickly, so that it’s all accomplished before anyone has a chance to think, just like the classic western regime-change op. Then everyone can be gently co-opted into dealing with the situation as it is rather than how it should have been, and further the cause and spread of American imperialism. According to this report, the opposition leader Jesus ‘Chuo’ Torrealba receives funding from NED, and that, too, would fit the pattern.

                If the USA is able to oust Maduro (as it has been trying to do for years) and implant its oil majors in charge of Venezuela’s energy reserves, it will be in a prime position to reverse the region’s growing independence from its influence.

                When Washington starts to weep crocodile tears about the plight of poor citizens, it is a sure sign it is going to try regime change again.

                • Matt says:

                  Your comment is a red herring. Receiving an insignificant amount of NED funding does nothing to justify Maduro’s claims or actions. His failure to reform the economy, his distractions by blaming the U.S./CIA for “economic sabotage”, his gutting of the national legislature, his violent rhetoric towards the opposition, etc. can not be justified all because the NED gave a few thousands to some opposition leader 4 score years ago.

                  I find it amusing you don’t see the irony in you defending Maduro’s wild accusations, while you criticize America’s rhetoric towards Russia. The accusations Maduro is throwing about the opposition/U.S. are similar to those by WaPo/NYT on Trump/Russia. And in some ways, they’re even more delusional: blaming the country’s economic collapse due to low oil prices on the U.S. scheming to create an “artificial” shortage of goods.

                • marknesop says:

                  Well, I live to amuse you.

        • yalensis says:

          On the bright side, at least “Matt” is taking a clear side now.
          And we can know for sure that he is a slippery gusano!

  34. Matt says:

    Peak Russophobia in the Western media:

    Working with Russia might be the best path to peace in Syria

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/working-with-russia-might-be-the-best-path-to-peace-in-syria/2017/07/04/c2589c9e-6029-11e7-a4f7-af34fc1d9d39_story.html

    A funny thing: Russia’s MFA seems to have picked up a new tactic over the past few months: make Russia look like the victim by picking out pointless, unknown comments, making controversies out of them, and demanding apologies.

    Case in point: Random Twitter user suggests Russian insurance companies not sell life insurance to Amb. Kislyak. MFA goes ballistic – “intense Russophobia”:

    https://www.rt.com/news/395959-kislyak-life-insurance-tweet-zakharova/

    Random New York tabloid author says some distasteful things about the assassination of the Russian ambassador in Turkey. MFA demands full-blown apology: https://www.rt.com/news/371187-russia-us-daily-apology/

    Like, I know the MFA wants to further the “besieged fortress” narrative about Russia, but this sounds more like BDSM to me – they enjoy their own expressions of pain.

    • Pavlo Svolochenko says:

      Being as you are a dim-witted homosexual paedophile, it’s not shocking that your go-to accusation is ‘BDSM’.

      The real question is why unemployed* failures like yourself respond to criticism by insisting that you aren’t worthy of comment?

      *Posting shit on reddit for the diversion of other fat people isn’t a job.

    • Special_sauce says:

      Is there two Matts?

    • Lyttenburgh says:

      1) What is MFA?

      2) How would you describe the following twitt:

      • moscowexile says:

        She seems a sweet kid!

        • moscowexile says:

          See HuffPost on…

          Amy Siskind
          President, The New Agenda

          Amy Siskind is a national spokesperson, writer and expert on helping women and girls advance and succeed. A highly successful Wall Street executive, she’s Co-founder and President of The New Agenda, a national organization working on issues including economic independence and advancement, gender representation and bias, sexual assault and domestic violence. Some of her television and radio appearances include: CNN, Fox News, CNBC, PBS, NPR, and Marketplace Radio. A frequent source for national press, Siskind has been quoted in the Los Angeles Times, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times.

          She’s a regular featured contributor at The Huffington Post. Amy speaks on college campuses and to young women about economic empowerment, and delivers inspiration keynotes and speeches to professional women on how to succeed. She serves on Cornell University’s highly prestigious President’s Council of Cornell Women and Cornell University Council, and was recently honored by the Westchester Country Legislators for her LGBTQ advocacy.

          A pioneer in the distressed debt trading market, she has a lifetime of experience with failure and remarkable success and knows what it takes to win. She became the first female managing director at Wasserstein Perella at the age of 31, and later ran trading departments at Morgan Stanley and Imperial Capital, where she was also a partner. She received a BA in Economics from Cornell University and an MBA in finance from the NYU Stern School of Business.

          Is Süsskind [ oder Süßkind] making suggestions that 66-year-old Russian Ambassador to the USA Sergei Kislyak’s lifespan is nearing its end?

          Does Wall Street whizz kid and “wimmin’s issues” warrior Siskind know something about the machinations of the Kremlin and its thuggish enforcer, the KGB, that others don’t?

          Izvestia [warning, KGB controlled organ] reports today that Kislyak is due to return his motherland on 25 July this year.

          I am sure Kislyak is overjoyed with the fact that he will soon be back home in a civilized country.

  35. Matt says:

    Throwback Tuesday:

    August 1, 2014:

    Ukraine MH17 may be CIA false flag and it ain’t flying

    https://www.rt.com/op-edge/177388-mh17-cia-false-ukraine/

  36. Matt says:

    Interesting article on something I’ve been thinking about myself:

    Why Is Russia Denying That North Korea Launched an ICBM?

    http://thediplomat.com/2017/07/why-is-russia-denying-that-north-korea-launched-an-icbm/

    Relevant excerpts:

    ——————————————

    There are a few possibilities to explain this. First, given that the Hwasong-14 was a two-stage missile, it is possible that Russian early warning systems only detected the missile’s first stage. A U.S. government source with knowledge of the Hwasong-14 test confirmed to The Diplomat that the missile’s first stage reached an apogee of 585 kilometers — a number relatively close to what Russian intelligence claims to have detected as the overall apogee for the Hwasong-14, but inexact enough to leave doubt that this was actually the case. However, if this is the case, Russia’s early warning system and radars would have missed the Hwasong-14’s second stage altogether. Given that the Hwasong-14’s second stage is far from an object small or stealthy enough to completely evade early warning radar detection, the good faith technical shortcoming explanation for Russia’s position seems unlikely. (The alternative explanation — that Russia’s early warning system is deeply deficient — is more concerning for other reasons.)

    A counterargument here is that Russia does have a fairly odd history with North Korean missile and nuclear tests, often offering statements that contradict the consensus view between the United States, South Korea, and Japan (and sometimes North Korea). In the past, Russian estimates have seen more projectiles than were actually launched out of North Korea; entirely missed launches; overestimated nuclear yields; and overestimated North Korea’s satellite launch vehicles. (The Russian Foreign Ministry said, for example, North Korea’s failed 2009 Unha-2 SLV delivered a payload into orbit when the United States said it simply splashed down in the Pacific Ocean.) It appears that this history of the Russians presenting unique intelligence assessments on North Korean missile and nuclear developments continued last week with a particularly divergent read on the Hwasong-14’s trajectory.

    The other possibility, of course, is that none of this has anything to do with deficiencies in Russia’s early warning capabilities or intelligence assessments. Instead, this could be political and diplomatic gamesmanship; Russia may be deliberately stalling action at the UN Security Council over the July 4 launch. This could be so for a variety of reasons, ranging from seeking a quid pro quo from the United States in other areas or out of an interest in seeing North Korea spared another round of condemnation at the Security Council.

    ——————————————-

    • Pavlo Svolochenko says:

      Official America was outplayed by a retard.

      So we must conclude that everybody in American public life is some kind of remarkable super-retard.

      What a world.

      • kirill says:

        Close to the mark. They clearly drink their own fermented piss koolaid when it comes to technical and military capability of Russia. They actually think that Russians are mud hut dwellers with stones and clubs who can be rolled over in a weekend.

      • Special_sauce says:

        I used to live in the Land of the Shooting Spree and Home of the Depraved. All merkins, black, white, plaid, beige, old, young, rich, poor, male, female are taught, starting in the womb! that Merka is the finest, freeest, fairest place in the History of the Solar System and everywhere else is a sewer.

      • Lyttenburgh says:

        Lao Tzu said: “We are conTrolled by those, who anger us” 🙂

        At first I thought that userperson “Matt” is just an imbecile and a good, walking and talking ilustration to the point I make in my article. Now, I’m thinking he is typical imageboard troll, unconcerned by the truth, who engages in this type of behaviour to this or that reason. Either because he has no life of his own and this sort of action makes zir feel important, or… You know.

        What is clear to me, is that userperson Matt’s not intereseted in maintaining normal, civil line of communication with the people here. That he is also staunchly anti-Russian. That he is paranoid and shifty as hell.

        • Matt says:

          “userperson Matt’s not intereseted in maintaining normal, civil line of communication with the people here. That he is also staunchly anti-Russian. That he is paranoid and shifty as hell.”

          Investigator/part-time mod Lyttenburgh has now begun throwing out random insults. Then he whines about my non-existent non-civil behaviour. Good comedy.

          And then Dr. Lyttenburgh goes wild about my “paranoia” all because I referenced the Mitrokihn Archives a few times.

          Judging by your response, Lyttenburgh, it seems I have full control over you.

          • yalensis says:

            Matt, are you actually Curt Doolittle?
            Personally, I doubt if you are any more Venezuelan than I am. And I am not Venezuelan.

            • marknesop says:

              No, of course not. Doolittle would not have been able to write for so long without employing his stock description for Russians; “The only white people who failed”. Or blabbering about his personal wealth or his personal high regard for Ukrainians.

          • Lyttenburgh says:

            “Investigator/part-time mod Lyttenburgh has now begun throwing out random insults. Then he whines about my non-existent non-civil behaviour. Good comedy.”

            From your to Special_Sauce above comment: “Maduro dog like you”, “[y]ou useful idiot”, “scum like you”, “[y]ou must be truly dumb”, “[w]ow, you truly are stupid”.

            That’s 5 ad hominem attacks in one short comment. Do you call it “civil behaviour”?

            “And then Dr. Lyttenburgh goes wild about my “paranoia””

            Quote and context, where I accuse you of harboring paranoia.

            “Judging by your response, Lyttenburgh, it seems I have full control over you.”

            And you exercise it… how exactly? By being a live illustration of the modern caveman I’ve described in my article?

            • Matt says:

              You know full well I was responding to Special_sauce’s own insults to me, which I merely responded to. These are the three comments he/she/it posted first:

              ——————————————–
              “lol, are you in the wrong place!”

              “begone gusano shitsack! you can’t carry Maduro’s moustache trimmer. Reuters? Really?”

              “Ugh, The United$hit$ and Miami gusanos don’t give a rats ass if Venezuelans starve. Don’t come here pretending to care, fucking worm!”
              ————————————————–

              As you can see, I merely responded to those unprovoked insults.

              “Quote and context, where I accuse you of harboring paranoia.”

              Right here: https://marknesop.wordpress.com/2017/07/03/the-credibility-gap-that-ought-to-be/comment-page-3/#comment-174501

              “What is clear to me, is that userperson Matt’s not intereseted in maintaining normal, civil line of communication with the people here. That he is also staunchly anti-Russian. That he is paranoid and shifty as hell.”

              There is the proof.

              “And you exercise it… how exactly? By being a live illustration of the modern caveman I’ve described in my article?”

              By getting you to robotically repeat the words “Russophobic” and “anti-Russian” all because I pointed out Operation INFEKTION, Russian government’s lies about imaginary SU-25s, and the KGB’s disinformation about JFK.

              None of that is against the people of Russia. It’s historical fact.

              • Lyttenburgh says:

                “You know full well I was responding to Special_sauce’s own insults to me, which I merely responded to. “

                Was you “civil” userperson “Matt”? Yes or No?

                You could always turn another cheek and meekly accepts abuse hurled at you. You chose othervise. Key word – “chose”.

                “Right here:”

                I take it that you accept all other accusations of mine, i.e. that you accept being “not intereseted in maintaining normal, civil line of communication with the people here”, of being “staunchly anti-Russian” (which you recently denied but now you agree), that you are “shifty as hell” is also okay for you.

                Context, my dear troll, is that you peddle conspiracy theories based on as little factual data as possible. Previous page demonstrated how facts free you go and how are willing to fo full Forrestahl in screaim “Russains are coming!” with zero proof – yes, this is a mark of paranoid. And you did little to counter that argument. Peddling even more conspiracy theories won’t help you.

                I’m not going wild, dear useperson Matt. I want you to write to write more stuff justifying your position than me. And you oblige 😉

                • Matt says:

                  “You could always turn another cheek and meekly accepts abuse hurled at you. You chose othervise. Key word – “chose”.”

                  Sure, but if one follows your original accusation, you said I was a troll who antagonized others here. Now that you admit I was merely responding to Pavlo – and did so in a non-insulting manner – your argument about me being a troll who goes around “antagonizing” people has been debunked.

                  “I take it that you accept all other accusations of mine”

                  Not quite.

                  “Context, my dear troll, is that you peddle conspiracy theories based on as little factual data as possible. Previous page demonstrated how facts free you go and how are willing to fo full Forrestahl in screaim “Russains are coming!” with zero proof – yes, this is a mark of paranoid. And you did little to counter that argument. Peddling even more conspiracy theories won’t help you”

                  Please list these “conspiracy theories” I peddled. Also provide evidence of me implying “Russains are coming!”.

                  So far, I’ve written about Operation INFEKTION, Seat 12, KGB’s payments to Mark Lane and other agents of influence, and Russia’s lies about imaginary SU-25s taking down MH17. And some posts about SpaceX.

                  None of the above are “conspiracy theories” or “Russphobic” or “anti-Russian” or “paranoid.”

                  Substantiate your claims, investigator Lyttenburgh.

            • Special_sauce says:

              I’m not too perturbed by the anti-homs, thanks. I use ’em on him ‘coz he DESERVES IT! If he’s paid to suck up to Yankee Gangsterism, I’d be disappointed, he seems to do it out of love, heaven save us!

    • yalensis says:

      Russian press had reported heavily about Melania’s attempts to extract hubby from the meeting. which she felt was going on too long. Helmer probably reading too much into that.

  37. Northern Star says:

    @Lyttenburg

    “Enjoy the feeling of being a widely recognized dumbass”

    Ummmm ……according to Mark.:

    “marknesop says:
    July 11, 2017 at 2:11 pm
    Well, just to clear something up, in the interest of fairness – you can call it a ’round table’ or a ‘discussion’ or ‘Meryl Streep’ – it is a fact that subjects which have nothing whatever to do with the post under which they appear are regularly introduced here, by any number of people. I don’t insist that commenters stay on topic, and never have.”

    Well , I reckon the “dumbshitass would be YOU!!!
    LOL!!…everyone else but you has moved on….yet there you are curled up like a dog licking you tail..and barking at me
    :O)
    WOOF WOOF!!!!

  38. Matt says:

    For the history buffs like Lyttenburgh:

    KGB Active Measures In Southwest Asia in 1980-82

    http://digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/document/110013

    Fascinating stuff.

    • Lyttenburgh says:

      Is your sole aim in life to come to the comment sections of the blogs which you disagree with and crapposting shit-linkw, which no one will bother clicking?

      Cuz that’s what you do. It is summer and you are crapposting and flooding. What a pathetic creature you are, userperson “Matt”!

  39. kirill says:

    This board has degenerated into a discussion about the KGB. Yep, nothing modern of relevance pertaining to Russia to justify the BS, so lets scrounge for tin foil hat BS about JFK in 1963. Pap for retards. The KGB killing the US president after the Cuban missile crisis would not only be an act of sheer lunacy but would undermine the clear interests of the Soviet leadership. JFK made unthinkable concessions (no invasion of Cuba, an actual eye blink in the case of the missiles in Turkey that were removed when Soviet missiles that were never deployed were removed from Cuba, i.e. Khruschev pulled off a major triumph). The only ones with motive to kill him were inside the USA. The same ones who were planning a nuclear attack on the USSR during the 1950s.

  40. et Al says:

    Neuters via Antiwar.com: South Korea: North Lacks Re-Entry Technology for ICBMs:

    South Korea: North Lacks Re-Entry Technology for ICBMs


    Tested Missile May Not Be a Proper ICBM

    …The question centers around the re-entry technology, or lack thereof, of the tested missile. The missile in question was fired mostly vertical, and just splashed into the ocean off of Japan’s coast. A lower trajectory would give it a theoretical range into Alaska, but that’s a big if.

    South Korean officials say North Korea has no testing facilities for re-entry technology at all, and can therefore be assumed not to have mastered that capability yet. Flinging the missile a long way is comparatively easy, but getting the warhead to survive re-entry and precisely hit a target, the officials say, is likely not something they can do yet…
    ####

    What do the South Koreans know about ICBMs? More or less than the Russians?

    • marknesop says:

      I am personally uneasy with statements that assume conclusions, such as “The tested missile did not perform standard re-entry” leading to “it can therefore be assumed they have not yet mastered that technology”. If I drive my car at 80 kph, can it be therefore assumed it will not do 140 kph? Perhaps the tested missile did what the NK’s told it to do, and they wanted to ensure they did not hit Japan.

      Just sounds like happy-talk to me.

      • et Al says:

        I think the most important element is is not to to engage in political dickswinging, i.e. the apparent Russian diss that it is not an ICBM, whilst those that preach the from the book of Missile Defense say it is and ‘The End is Nigh’ if we don’t have missile defense, but to stick to the known facts, i.e. it has the range, but range is only one component of an ICBM delivery system. A viable (nuclear) warhead is a critical element and is an entirely different kettle of fish. With this article, I’m just pointing out that it is not just the Russians who are being cautious about this, but the Sorks too, even if they are throwing some shade as well.

        The Norks have certainly done very well, but they’re not quite there yet. How soon is anyone’s guess, but wetting the bed about it is being unnecessarily dramatic.

        • et Al says:

          Duh! Should have written ‘a viable nuclear reentry system’ or something. I’ve got to stop drinking.

  41. et Al says:

    Amnesty International via Antiwar.com: Amnesty: US-Backed Coalition Violated International Law in Mosul Killings

    Amnesty: US-Backed Coalition Violated International Law in Mosul Killings

    Troops Used Unnecessary Force and Indiscriminate Targeting

    ….The report centered on the massive civilian death toll in attacks, particularly escalating as the battle moved into western Mosul, saying Iraqi forces regularly used unnecessary amounts of force and indiscriminate targeting which put civilians at undue risk.

    Amnesty research director Lynn Maalouf was quick to note that ISIS had unlawfully used human shields, but that this “does not lessen the legal obligation of pro-government forces to protect civilians.” That position is true from a legal perspective, but appears to stand in contrast to the Pentagon’s statements, which have couched all of the biggest incidents of civilian deaths in their airstrikes as ISIS’ fault. Indeed, the US “Law of War Manual” has struggled with this issue in recent revisions….

    ####

    That’s so kool!

    I fought the law and the law didn’t win!

    • et Al says:

      ABC News via Antiwar.com: The Afghan Files
      Defence leak exposes deadly secrets of Australia’s special forces

      By the National Reporting Team’s Dan Oakes and Sam Clark

      Hundreds of pages of secret defence force documents leaked to the ABC give an unprecedented insight into the clandestine operations of Australia’s elite special forces in Afghanistan, including incidents of troops killing unarmed men and children.

      The ABC can reveal that some of the cases detailed in the documents are being investigated as possible unlawful killings.

      This comes a day after the ABC revealed the alleged cover up of the killing of an Afghan boy and another alleged incident in which a father and son were shot dead during a raid…
      #####

      Much more at the link.

      In for a penny, in for a pound!

      • marknesop says:

        Putin is everywhere – now he’s leaking Australian documents. Look out for your elections, Australia!!

        • et Al says:

          In The Good Old Days, ‘The Jews’ (TM) used to be blamed for everything (plenty still do). Not funny how it has so comfortably segued to ‘The Russians’ wot did it. I guess some people cannot fathom an existence without a bogeyman. Or bogeywoman? Or bogeyperson? Oh ffs!

    • et Al says:

      Telegraph: ‘They have no understanding of brutality of war’, says British commander over Amnesty’s Mosul ‘war crimes’ report
      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/12/have-no-understanding-brutality-war-says-british-commander-amnestys/

      A senior British commander has hit out at a human rights group’s claims the US-led coalition and Iraqi forces used excessive force in the battle to recapture Mosul, calling them “naive and deeply irresponsible”.

      Major General Rupert Jones, the deputy commander of the international anti-Isil coalition, on Wednesday criticised a report published by Amnesty International the day after troops claimed victory over the jihadists as “disrespectful” to the Iraqi government.

      Amnesty suggested the government and coalition carried out “disproportionate” and “unlawful” attacks in the fight to take back the city…

      …Gen Jones said it is naive to think a city such as Mosul, with a population of 1.75 million, could be liberated without any civilian casualties while fighting an enemy that “lacks all humanity”…
      ####

      And there we have it, from the British no less. “When we do it it is just and right! War is Hell! When you do it, it is a war crime and you and your country must be held accountable at all costs!

      See, the Brits are just as exceptional as the Americans. Except the Brits have the gall to claim the moral high ground (along with the French) after their foreign leaves the whole countries in the middle east – such as Libya – devastated and ruining the lives of millions of people and destabilizing the whole region. Well, that’s the nature of power. Use it or lose it. F/k the consequences.

      • Cortes says:

        Translation: “We killed them but we’re crying inside.”

        • yalensis says:

          Yeah, I’m sure they’re totally cut up about all these dead people.
          Have you seen that movie Eye in the Sky ?
          If not, don’t bother, it’s infuriating.
          I only watched it because Helen Mirren is in it.
          But it turns out to be insidious and almost hilarious pro-British propaganda, in which English army are really cut up and cry their eyes out when they have to kill a little girl in Kenya who happens to be in the wrong place at the wrong time when they’re blowing up a terrorist.

          The movie is a piece of shit propaganda pretending to be humanistic about the issue of collateral damage. Just like you said: “We had to kill her, but we cried inside.”

          And who was it who said — I think it was Paul Wolfowitz — something like, “We regret all the innocents who died in Iraq, but it was a price we we were willing to pay…”
          Infuriating!

    • marknesop says:

      Look at all the occasions in Iraq in which the USA used unnecessary amounts of force, and if Fallujah was not an exercise in indiscriminate targeting, I don’t know what one would look like. Troops at checkpoints just sprayed cars which approached what they deemed to be too close with automatic-weapons fire, often killing some or all of the occupants in their own city for no real reason except that they were spooked because they were hated as invaders. And they are reported as “Civilian KIA (killed in action)” because they perhaps did not understand hand signals or flashing lights in the dark or perhaps feared the checkpoint was manned by sectarian militamen. But that’s ‘Action”, so US servicemen are blameless. Who’s going to haul the United States into court? Nobody.

      • Cortes says:

        Nyet.

        Sorry: Not yet.

        The “tipping point ” (c) USA will occur, I believe, when an officer refuses to carry out an order in the rational expectation that s/he will be held to account in a court not subject to US law. Then it’s game over.

  42. et Al says:

    SOHR via Antiwar.com: Syrian Observatory Claims ISIS Leader ‘Confirmed’ Dead

    Syrian Observatory Claims ISIS Leader ‘Confirmed’ Dead

    Pentagon Says They Can’t Corroborate Report

    ISIS Caliph Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi has been either dead or mortally wounded for much of the past several years, according to various rumors and unconfirmed reports. Today, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights claims to have “confirmed” information that he actually is dead at this point…

    ####

    Well if British intelligence backed SOHR says to, that’s good enough for me.

    • Lyttenburgh says:

      Wait – does it mean that Russians didn’t lie when they reported al-Baghdadi and his buddies dead by the VKS strike?

      Quick – get Sen. McCain on the phone! He should condemnt this action, which eliminated a valuable USA asset!

  43. et Al says:

    Antiwar.com: Was Trump Junior Framed?
    http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2017/07/11/trump-junior-framed/

    “Russia-gate” goes nuclear
    by Justin Raimondo Posted on July 12, 2017

    As a storm breaks over Washington, and the details of foreign “collusion” and intrigue over the 2016 presidential election break out into the open, I just happened to be re-reading Gore Vidal’s The Golden Age, a novel set in the run up to World War II in which pretty much the same plot line plays out on the same terrain.

    The novel is a reminder that nothing has really changed since 1940, except in terms of scale. Washington is still teeming with agents of various foreign powers, and, as in Vidal’s novel, the British intelligence organization plays a key role, but then again the book is set before our much touted “seventeen intelligence agencies” were founded. Vidal takes us through the drawing rooms and editorial offices of Washington, listening in on conversations between characters both real and imagined. It’s as if the National Security Agency was operating at a time when computers existed only in the realm of science fiction, scooping up all our data and giving us a bird’s eye view of how the world works…
    ####

    Plenty more at the link by Antiwar.com stalwart Justin Raimondo. As I have also previously pointed out, not only did FusionGPS provide the dodgy Steel Dossier on Trump, it also had ‘Russian lawyer’ Veselnitskaya working for it. What a can of worms. As Justin points out, why did she get in to the USA when her previous visa had been denied? It’s going to be a shitstorm.

    • et Al says:

      Well darlings, it really is starting to drizzle shit!

      McClatchy DC via Antiwar.com: John McCain faces questions in Trump-Russia dossier case
      http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article160622854.html#storylink=mainstage

      Sen. John McCain faces questions in a defamation lawsuit about leaks leading to publication of the now-infamous dossier that alleged Donald Trump’s campaign had connections to Russian operatives, McClatchy has learned.

      The dossier compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele and his London firm, Orbis Business Intelligence Ltd., amounted to a collection of uncorroborated reports of collusion gathered as political research for sale to Trump’s opponents. It proved explosive when published by online news site BuzzFeed on Jan. 10.

      Now, two lawsuits — one in the United States and a second in the U.K. — are being brought by lawyers for Aleksej Gubarev, a Cyprus-based Internet entrepreneur whom Steele’s Russian sources accused of cyber spying against the Democratic Party leadership….
      ####

      I would expect that there’s a pretty good chance of it being ruled inadmissible by a British judge. The Brits are masters of going sideways when necessary, all legally of course.

    • marknesop says:

      Because she is ‘close to the Kremlin’, of course. That gives you the ability to walk through walls and have extra lives.

      • et Al says:

        I’ve been close to the Kremlin too. Shit, I’ve even been in the Kremlin! As a tourist of course. I guess I’m linked to Putin…*

        *Well it was PissAnt Yeltsin when I was there, but why let facts or details get in the way of a good fairy tale?

  44. et Al says:

    The Hill via Antiwar.com: State Department approves $3.9B missile defense sale to Romania
    http://thehill.com/policy/defense/341545-state-department-approves-39b-missile-sale-to-romania

    The State Department announced Tuesday it had approved a possible $3.9 billion sale to NATO member Romania for Patriot air and missile defense systems.

    The Pentagon’s Defense Security Cooperation Agency on Monday notified Congress of the foreign military sale for seven Raytheon-made Patriot systems, including 28 launching stations, 56 guidance enhanced missiles and 168 Patriot Advanced Capabilty-3 (PAC-3) missiles.

    “Romania will use the Patriot missile system to strengthen its homeland defense and deter regional threats,” the agency said in the deal announcement….
    ####

    Romania needs PAC-3 to defend itself from Russian missiles because Romania is hosting US missile defense which in turn is designed to allow the United States the option of a first nuclear strike against Russia with its missile defense mopping up any remaining Russian ICBMs that are missed.

    Good for business or what?! I seriously doubt that Romania will pony up the full amount.

    • marknesop says:

      Not to mention installation of a radar which will be able to snoop far, far beyond the borders of Romania. The USA can’t – and dares not – fly its intelligence-gathering aircraft over Russia, so it is exploring alternatives.

  45. Matt says:

    How a failed Krasnodar politician created an army of the elderly to fight Alexey Navalny and other foes

    https://meduza.io/en/feature/2017/07/10/the-man-behind-putin-s-troops?utm_source=email&utm_medium=briefly&utm_campaign=2017-07-11

  46. Matt says:

    “Or their counterparts slightly down the historical road who couldn’t ever imagine that humanity by 2010s will not only abandon all attempts to break through to other planets, but instead trust blindly the commercial spacecraft design to a modern version of the carney-barker and all-round fraud Elon Musk.”

    Is Lyttenburgh jelly of Elon Musk?

    “Russian space bosses SPAT on Elon Musk when he tried to buy a rocket – persuading him to build his own, new book reveals”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3082067/Russian-space-bosses-SPAT-Elon-Musk-tried-buy-rocket-persuading-build-new-book-reveals.html

    Go Elon, go!

    • Evgeny says:

      Matt, I’ve looked up your link. If I got it right, Elon Musk was offered a Dnepr rocket for $8M, which brings 4.5 tons to the LEO. Which is $1.8M per ton to the LEO. (The deal he rejected.) Instead, he built a Falcon-9, which costs $62M per launch, and brings 22.3 tons to the LEO. Which is $2.8M per ton to the LEO.

      But I guess, in your worldview it’s not the cheaper product that is better, but the one which is produced by the U.S.

      • Matt says:

        The $62 million is the list price for those who want to use SpaceX’s services, not the actual cost to launch it that SpaceX incurs. You can’t compare that with the $8 million price of the Dnepr rocket itself. You also forget to account for the reusability of the Falcon-9.

        http://spacenews.com/spacexs-reusable-falcon-9-what-are-the-real-cost-savings-for-customers/

        —————————–

        In March, SpaceX President Gwynne Shotwell said the company could expect a 30 percent cost savings from reusing the first stage. If this translated into a 30 percent price reduction to customers, that would drop Falcon 9’s advertised price to $42.8 million from today’s $61.2 million.

        When measured by contract volume, SpaceX’s biggest customer is SES of Luxembourg. SES has said repeatedly it is willing to be the inaugural customer for a reused first stage, but would like the price to move closer to $30 million, at least for the first flight.

        In an April 25 report, Jefferies takes the $61.2 million list price for a Falcon 9 launch and assumes SpaceX makes a gross margin of 40 percent on the launch, leaving a direct per-launch cost to SpaceX of $36.7 million. This includes the costs of the fueled rocket, and of launch campaign.

        SpaceX founder Elon Musk has said the first stage accounts for about 75 percent of the total vehicle cost. If the 40 percent gross-margin estimate were correct, that would mean a total first-stage cost of $27.5 million.

        ————————————

        So, the actual cost per launch for SpaceX is $36.7 million. That makes the cost $1.65M per ton, lower than the Dnepr’s $1.8M.

        Furthermore, since the Falcon-9 is reusable, there are cost savings, and the above article estimates the cost for further launches would be only $27.5 million, or $1.23M per ton, a full 31.7% lower per ton than the Dnepr.

        And even when one includes the mark-up for profit margins, it still compares very favourably to the Russian offer, yet it’s manufactured and designed in America. And this is only the beginning. SpaceX wants to shave off a further 30% off the current list price.

        • Evgeny says:

          “And this is only the beginning.”

          Clearly Russians are working on reducing launch costs, too.

          • Patient Observer says:

            Matt piled assumptions on top of speculation to arrive at his numbers while the Dnepr is available today at the indicated price. Moreover, the Dnepr is a smaller rocket which would be expected to have a higher cost/ton to LEO than a larger rocket yet it still was superior to the Falcon 9.. Finally, SpaceX launches from a more favorable latitude allowing a heavier cargo to LEO than launched, say, from the latitude of the Dnepr launch facility. i would say that the Falcon 9 is outclassed by a wide margin in the cost per ton to LEO metric

            SpaceX has a history of being years behind scheduled as evidenced by the Falcon Heavy, That is not to say that the Falcon 9 isn’t the best US space launch rocket but it is reaching the limits of its capability. And, the promised cost savings from reuse have yet to be proven. Reminds me of the breathless promises of huge cost savings from the reusable Space Shuttle before reality landed on NASA PR.

            Russia will have little difficulty in competing with SpaceX on a ton to LEO from what I have read but, of course, politics will trump competitiveness, Therefore, SpaceX will have a good future in the Western launch market even if Russia could launch for $1/ton (exaggeration, true, the point should be clear).

            I do wonder if “Russian space bosses SPAT on Elon Musk…”. So, it was multiple SPAT incidences? Makes you wonder about the accuracy of the article, no?

        • marknesop says:

          Well, good luck with that. The signs so far are not all that positive.

          • Matt says:

            Old, old news that SpaceX has already gotten over.

            • marknesop says:

              You know what? I can read a calendar, I bet just as well as you can. And Musk himself said it was “the most difficult and complex failure we’ve experienced in 14 years”. He also said they had not the slightest idea why it happened. That’s a confidence-builder that it was resolved, isn’t it? I notice the GAO also identified a ‘persistent pattern of problems’ with cracking in turbine blades which that office labeled an “unacceptable risk for manned flights”.

              Look, good luck to Musk – there’s plenty of room for his enterprise in the business, and he’s definitely an ‘ideas man’. I’m merely suggesting the urge to go gaga for Musk just because America needs good news might not be an impulse it’s too wise to go with just yet.

              • Matt says:

                “However, SpaceX argues that it has designed its engines so that they can withstand cracking in the turbines, but it’s also working on ways to get rid of the problem. “We have qualified our engines to be robust to turbine wheel cracks,” John Taylor, a SpaceX representative, tells The Verge. “However, we are modifying the design to avoid them altogether. This will be part of the final design iteration on Falcon 9. SpaceX has established a plan in partnership with NASA to qualify engines for [crewed] spaceflight.””

                Also read this comment by a guy smarter than me:

                https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=42218.msg1638015#msg1638015

                • Patient Observer says:

                  Matt, that guy may be smarter than you but I don’t think that he is smarter than me; certainly not in the area of turbomachine design and operation. The most telling statement in his post was:

                  Personally, I think these cracks are an absolute non-issue for astronaut safety.

                  He offered a personal opinion based on what? He had not seen the reports in question and almost certainly does not have the expertise to draw valid conclusions even if he had access to those reports. You are letting your desire to reach a conclusion that favors a personal belief race ahead of your knowledge and competency.

                • marknesop says:

                  What did you think a SpaceX representative would say? “They’re a piece of crap, Matt – I don’t know what we were thinking”? I’m sure they will solve the problem and probably many more after it, but let’s not assume Musk or SpaceX is going to revolutionize the space travel business by tomorrow. He’s going to have to learn like everyone else. Falcon 9 is still going through its teething problems, and only got away on its third launch attempt last time. That doesn’t mean it’s a design failure, but once again, everyone’s acting like nobody ever put a payload into space before Musk and SpaceX.

  47. Matt says:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seat_12

    More anti-Russian/Russophobic/Nazi/Ukie/USrael/AmeriKKKA/NATO/Soros propaganda.

    http://www.newsweekly.com.au/article.php?id=2848

    • Evgeny says:

      Matt, during the Cold War the both sides spent money and resources on crap projects. Such as, the CIA promoted American Abstract Expressionist painters for propaganda purposes:

      http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/modern-art-was-cia-weapon-1578808.html

      I guess the bottom line is that our nations shouldn’t let the respective Governments waste national resources into fueling another ideological conflict.

      • Evgeny says:

        I believe that’s also the bottom line of much that is written in the Kremlin Stooge and other blogs. Russia is no longer the Soviet Union. The West would be better off financially and otherwise if it stopped treating Russia as the old enemy.

        • Matt says:

          “The West would be better off financially and otherwise if it stopped treating Russia as the old enemy.”

          That is perfectly fair and reasonable.

          • Special_sauce says:

            Nuh-uh, the present Russian State, independant, steadfast, badass! was forged in the fire of the Great Patriotic War, lead by the Evillest Man Evah! The US and the Coalition of the Bribed and Threatened can’t abide that! Fairness and Reason are not in ’em!

            • moscowexile says:

              And they’ve still not apologized for beating the living shit out of the Wehrmacht 1941-1945 despite all the help they received off the Western allies in order to do so: help such as this

              and this Studebaker:

              And they’ve still have not thanked their chief ally who contributed to their victory, namely
              “General Winter”.

              What ungrateful, subhuman wretches “Russians” are!

          • Patient Observer says:

            I disagree with Matt. It is clearly in the best interest of the USA to spend its last dime on fighting both Russia and China. Unless those two countries are defeated, the US faces a bleak future in which its fortunes will rest on the competency and moral strength of its population.

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